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 Rail Covers. Ladders? or Covers?
Booge  [Member]
12/15/2008 5:19:50 AM EST
Which do you like better and why?
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VR-15  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 5:23:36 AM EST
Ladders
Booge  [Member]
12/15/2008 5:27:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By VR-15:
Ladders


Ok. Do you like them for any particular reason?
CollegeBoy  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 5:34:05 AM EST
I have Magpul XT covers on my rail. I know they aren't the latest and greatest, but they work. I prefer them over ladder covers because they completely cover the rail, and I think they "feel" better when holding onto the forend.
Chris_C  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 5:34:11 AM EST
On the bottom of my raile where my VFG is mounted, I have a ladder..and OD one

I have TD covers everywhere else. For me, it was just a matter what I had lying around. I dont care about mix matching colors, my AR is a tool, not a prom date (but she puts out better than my prom date did)...anyway...I only had to cut one of my ladder covers, vice two TD covers to make it work...so I guess that is why.

ETA: I have three different kinds on one AR..lol...pic to follow.


bukn77  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 5:41:26 AM EST
Ladders. I like the looks of them better and they feel just a little better to me. The ladders keep the diameter of the hangguard down just a little bit vs complete covers.
LJP  [Member]
12/15/2008 7:45:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By bukn77:
The ladders keep the diameter of the hangguard down just a little bit vs complete covers.


That's it for me! Ladders on LaRue –– nice, compact feel.

jcrowl  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:12:52 AM EST
KAC rail covers for me, nothing else. I can never get those damned ladders on!
rickcis  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:16:52 AM EST
Ladders for me!!!

Colt_SBR  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:25:09 AM EST


I like Knight's rail covers and MagPul ladders. I use both on my Colt LE6920.

Covers on the bottom and sides of the rail. Ladders on the upper and M4 RAS top rail.

brifol6111  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:28:02 AM EST
I'm a big fan of covers. Personally, I went with the MagPul XTM Modular Rail Covers, they we're the cheapest covers I could find and they make it easier to cover smaller parts of the rails (Come in packs of 8, 2 pieces are a single cover, 4 covers will cover a single rail on a Carbine length rail)

Cpatterson  [Member]
12/15/2008 8:34:04 AM EST
get both
Chris_C  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:35:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By jcrowl:
KAC rail covers for me, nothing else. I can never get those damned ladders on!


For real? They are easy, just roll them on.

agentile  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 8:38:27 AM EST
Ladders for my SPR. Makes the overall grip diameter less.
Covers for my Varmit Rig. Looks better.
Joe_Sakic  [Member]
12/15/2008 8:40:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By jcrowl:
KAC rail covers for me, nothing else. I can never get those damned ladders on!


Try placing them in very hot water (almost boiling) for around 30 seconds or until soft and pliable - then they'll go on very easily. Once they cool though, they'll be on there good.

BTW, ladders for me too - I don't like the added diameter as most rails are fairly big already.

my $0.02

Sakic #19

Harv24  [Team Member]
12/15/2008 9:05:44 AM EST
covers...

they protect the rails from damage better and they insulate your hands from heat better..

ladders are for roofs....

KAC
Magpul
Tandgo Down

those are the top three in my book....
Forest  [Moderator]
12/15/2008 9:07:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By CollegeBoy:
I have Magpul XT covers on my rail. I know they aren't the latest and greatest, but they work. I prefer them over ladder covers because they completely cover the rail, and I think they "feel" better when holding onto the forend.


Same here. I use the XT to cover areas that I plan on holding. I use ladder covers to help protect the rail in the other places.

Like this, Ladder on top rail and ends of sides and bottom. XTs where my support hand goes:

40calpower  [Member]
12/15/2008 9:19:30 AM EST
I typically use covers on all rails where no goodies are mounted. Its a no brainier but covers provide better protection. On the lower rail I use ladders simply because of the VFG.
kmc0929  [Member]
12/18/2008 12:18:47 PM EST
rather then start up a new thread i thought id revive this one...

i bought a set of ladders from ebay/ airsoft type hong kong ladders, and they fit on my surefire shotgun rail really well. am i missing something or are ladders just ladders regardless to the manufacturer? they seem like they are just rubber, are the 12 dollar a piece ladders something special? Also when you see the price 12 dollars, does that usually mean per ladder or per 4?
MillerSHO  [Member]
12/18/2008 12:34:22 PM EST
Ladders
Forest  [Team Member]
12/18/2008 12:52:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By kmc0929:
rather then start up a new thread i thought id revive this one...

i bought a set of ladders from ebay/ airsoft type hong kong ladders, and they fit on my surefire shotgun rail really well. am i missing something or are ladders just ladders regardless to the manufacturer? they seem like they are just rubber, are the 12 dollar a piece ladders something special? Also when you see the price 12 dollars, does that usually mean per ladder or per 4?


The $12 is per ladder (I wish it was for 4...).

Your airsoft copies may work fine for you. Or they may melt if you get a chance to really heat up the gun.

Why don't you test them out and let us know about it (It would make a great range report with pics).

pcurtis  [Member]
12/18/2008 1:11:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By kmc0929:
rather then start up a new thread i thought id revive this one...

i bought a set of ladders from ebay/ airsoft type hong kong ladders, and they fit on my surefire shotgun rail really well. am i missing something or are ladders just ladders regardless to the manufacturer? they seem like they are just rubber, are the 12 dollar a piece ladders something special? Also when you see the price 12 dollars, does that usually mean per ladder or per 4?


The $12 is per ladder (I wish it was for 4...).

Your airsoft copies may work fine for you. Or they may melt if you get a chance to really heat up the gun.

Why don't you test them out and let us know about it (It would make a great range report with pics).



I agree with Forest, going cheap and you get exactly what you paid for. Yes, Falcon and other ladders are expensive; but they work. I shoot with gloved, so ladders work for me versus full rail covers such as KAC etc. and provide no benefit for me.
kmc0929  [Member]
12/18/2008 5:30:14 PM EST
yeah just curious, mine never got heated up, as for fit , they kinda snapped in really well, but they could melt im sure.
kmc0929  [Member]
12/18/2008 5:32:26 PM EST
what about the magpul two pieces? any luck?
Kihn  [Team Member]
12/18/2008 6:18:35 PM EST
Surefire ladders 3 for $12. Top rail ladders, sides and bottom KAC or Magpul XTM.
ggreen  [Member]
12/19/2008 4:23:26 PM EST
I prefer ladders but today I bought some TD panels to put on my 10" Troy FF. I don't like them. I practically had to hammer the damn things on. It will be a pain in the ass to get them off.
glazer1972  [Life Member]
2/7/2009 9:16:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_Sakic:
Originally Posted By jcrowl:
KAC rail covers for me, nothing else. I can never get those damned ladders on!


Try placing them in very hot water (almost boiling) for around 30 seconds or until soft and pliable - then they'll go on very easily. Once they cool though, they'll be on there good.

BTW, ladders for me too - I don't like the added diameter as most rails are fairly big already.

my $0.02

Sakic #19



Hair dryer works good for making them soft and pliable too.

legendchaser  [Team Member]
2/7/2009 3:58:07 PM EST
I like Magpul XTM covers. I've put them on all my rails. They are easy to install without having to remove hardware. They can also be cut into smaller sections and will still snap together. Custom color patterns can be achieved by mixing panels.
MRKIMBER44  [Team Member]
2/7/2009 4:46:21 PM EST
I really like the Magpul XT's. Once you figure out the trick to installing them they go on quick. I recently picked up some KAC covers too and I like them but I wish they were rubberized or something. But nevertheless I like em both.

kevinb120  [Team Member]
2/7/2009 5:04:44 PM EST
XTM's trimmed to fit around any accessories on the sides and bottom, ladders on the upper rail.
Zack3g  [Life Member]
2/7/2009 5:18:32 PM EST
i'm a fan of ladders. for a while i didn't use anything, but a stack of them soon built up so i figured might as well throw em on there. turns out i like them
nicholsmf  [Team Member]
2/7/2009 6:02:08 PM EST
I prefer ladders due to the lower profile
Schuey2k2  [Member]
2/7/2009 9:33:09 PM EST
Magpul XTM's alternating between FDE and Black..
DevL  [Member]
2/7/2009 9:47:41 PM EST
I prefer ladders but they suck for high heat. All the people having issues with putting ladders on are because the new Magpul ladders suck and are of a much harder material than the older ones. Surefire is the only way to go now. Ladders are not ladders... I have seen AT LEAST 3 different types of materials used and some cheap airsoft crap that was so gooey and soft and not heat resistant its only good for... well... airsoft.
twpayne75  [Member]
2/8/2009 5:16:18 AM EST
I prefer covers on the bottom, really like Knight's Arm. if your rail has relief cuts for them.(more protection if its resting on something) And ladders on the side. It also gives it more of an oval M4 handguard feel.

warpig8654  [Team Member]
2/8/2009 6:02:25 AM EST
I use both. Depends on the rifle & what I have available for me. I'm done buying rail covers since I think they are too expensive for what they are.
Harv24  [Team Member]
2/8/2009 2:13:43 PM EST
Gunny
I'm done buying rail covers since I think they are too expensive for what they are.


Me too.. I bought what I needed for the 2 carbines and one .22 upper (All KAC and TD) and now I don't need anymore....

I never cried buying good quality covers, that have performed well for many years and still continue to give me good service...

Good deals on slighty used rails are in the EE all the time.
Dragon0351  [Member]
2/15/2009 11:54:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By CollegeBoy:
I have Magpul XT covers on my rail. I know they aren't the latest and greatest, but they work. I prefer them over ladder covers because they completely cover the rail, and I think they "feel" better when holding onto the forend.


Same here. I use the XT to cover areas that I plan on holding. I use ladder covers to help protect the rail in the other places.

Like this, Ladder on top rail and ends of sides and bottom. XTs where my support hand goes:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/mdar15manager/6_8%20SPC/6_8Tactical15.jpg


Same here. I use (6-rib)3.9" Knight's Armament rail covers on the bottom & 2 sides where I would hold the handguard, and Surefire ladder rail covers everywhere else that doesn't have an accessory attached.
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