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 SCAR 16 or KAC SR15?
JungleJames247  [Member]
4/25/2012 11:22:45 PM
Which would you rather have and why.

The SCAR is pretty sweet, but the SR15 is a Stoner rifle.
SHOOTER  [Member]
4/25/2012 11:36:01 PM
Originally Posted By JungleJames247:
Which would you rather have and why.

The SCAR is pretty sweet, but the SR15 is a Stoner rifle.


If I could only have one it would be the SR15. For me it just handled better, would feed anything I gave it. and I loved the ambi lower and QD slots. The only thing I did not like about the SR15 was the gas blow back when shooting surpressed. I sold mine for that reason and kept my Scar and other AR's. If I had to do it again I would never had sold it.

JungleJames247  [Member]
4/25/2012 11:46:01 PM
Sweet pic! Thanks for the advice. I'm not shooting suppressed yet so the DI gas system doesnt bug me.

I was shooting my home built rifle which isn't very smooth. Then I picked up a friends Sig 556 which felt great - gas piston. Now I want a 5.56 rifle w/ light recoil and nice action.
AMUshooter10  [Team Member]
4/26/2012 12:02:54 AM
I have not met a piston gun that recoils any less than a di gun.




Not sure if this will help or not. But like was said before me the scar is not a very friendly gun to shoot. IMO
lilMAC25  [Member]
4/26/2012 12:10:35 AM
I'd only get a SCaR if I was going 7.62, but that's just me.
JungleJames247  [Member]
4/26/2012 12:11:14 AM
Maybe its my carbine but the Sig 556 was noticeably more soft to shoot. My other buddy has a Bushmaster which has a nice easy charging action compared to mine.

Looks like their is a reason to stick with a known manufacturer. The build was fun though and the carbine shoots well, it just doesnt have that polished feel (when charging).
AMUshooter10  [Team Member]
4/26/2012 12:27:56 AM
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
I'd only get a SCaR if I was going 7.62, but that's just me.


This guy here shoots. Lol

I agree 100%
Drenman  [Member]
4/26/2012 12:31:52 AM
That sounds like it should be a fixable problem. Could be a couple things though. Not sure what your set up is, and what kind of CH you are using.

Soft recoling rifles usually come from longer length gas systems or heavier weight out front or could be as much as changing your buffer out for a heavier one.

You can go too far....I had a rifle I built with a good comp and tried an Enidine hyrolic buffer, between the comp and the buffer it wouldn't cycle at all. Keep in mind I've got three discs out in my neck, and I took a needle with 60 cc's of steroids and lidocaine straigh to my cord at C-5 when it was supposed to be just an epidural into the spinal fluid, so I really need soft shooting rifles.

My favorite is the 18" rifle length system, and middy's are great too.

JPrifles has a low mass operating principle that is a whole system with their BCG, adjustable gas block, and muzzle break. It's almost imperceptible how soft they shoot. I still wish I'd bought one when they were still on the cheaper side. Great friggen rifles.
undercoverwookie  [Member]
4/26/2012 12:50:12 AM
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.
Munition  [Member]
4/26/2012 1:11:42 AM
I don't like the height over bore with the SCAR. The design of the gun puts the grip lower when sholdered properly. It also makes it more difficult to get high over the bore on aggressive grip holds like with thumb on top of the rail. Makes it harder to control in rapid fire.
SHOOTER  [Member]
4/26/2012 7:03:23 PM
Originally Posted By JungleJames247:
Sweet pic! Thanks for the advice. I'm not shooting suppressed yet so the DI gas system does noy bug me.


If that is the case I say get the KAC. I would buy one in a minute if I could find the right deal.

Brahmzy  [Team Member]
4/26/2012 7:20:18 PM
KAC - no question.

After you handle/shoot one, or many, you'll know why.
Caboose314  [Team Member]
4/26/2012 7:33:33 PM
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?
Munition  [Member]
4/27/2012 1:07:01 PM
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?


Why is what? Which part of the post above are you questioning? Because the latter sentence seems like a no brainer. The former has more room for argument.
BB  [Member]
4/27/2012 2:41:55 PM
KAC over SCAR. Not a fan of reciprocating charging handles.
FMJ  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 2:45:03 PM
I`d rather have a quality M4 carbine over the scar
hotbiggun42  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 3:36:33 PM
I would take a LaRue or Noveske over either of those.
Munition  [Member]
4/27/2012 3:44:23 PM
If your going to spend 2600 bucks...be sure to spend it on exactly what you want. You can get a pretty awesome setup with many quality AR manufactures and completely finish a gun with that chunk of change.
Caboose314  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 3:47:19 PM
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?


Why is what? Which part of the post above are you questioning? Because the latter sentence seems like a no brainer. The former has more room for argument.


The first statement.
BB  [Member]
4/27/2012 3:52:22 PM
Originally Posted By Munition:
If your going to spend 2600 bucks...be sure to spend it on exactly what you want. You can get a pretty awesome setup with many quality AR manufactures and completely finish a gun with that chunk of change.


Neither of these is $2600
undercoverwookie  [Member]
4/27/2012 4:49:41 PM
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?


Why is what? Which part of the post above are you questioning? Because the latter sentence seems like a no brainer. The former has more room for argument.


The first statement.



Just saying I'd rather have two Bushmasters, or Spikes, or DPMS, or PSA, over a single KAC. Without getting into a shouting match over quality or life dependency, in almost all cases concerning AR's I do not find a single "top tier" rifle more advantageous than having two "lesser" quality rifles.
BB  [Member]
4/27/2012 5:06:49 PM
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?


Why is what? Which part of the post above are you questioning? Because the latter sentence seems like a no brainer. The former has more room for argument.


The first statement.



Just saying I'd rather have two Bushmasters, or Spikes, or DPMS, or PSA, over a single KAC. Without getting into a shouting match over quality or life dependency, in almost all cases concerning AR's I do not find a single "top tier" rifle more advantageous than having two "lesser" quality rifles.

Two is one and one is none philosophy?
M4A1  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 7:56:10 PM
Originally Posted By BB:
KAC over SCAR. Not a fan of reciprocating charging handles.


I like the reciprocating CH and actually prefer it. It won't bother you one bit after some time training with it. Either use a vertical foregrip or keep your hand in the right place and it will never get in the way. Guess I'll be the first to prefer the Scar over the AR. But I have lots of AR's. (Colt, Noveske, DD, LMT)
If OP doesn't own an AR, that should be his first stop simply due to parts availability.
weaponoutfitters  [Dealer]
4/27/2012 8:38:10 PM
Having extensive experience with both, I'd go with the SR-15 for sure. More ergonomic, more features, better price point.

The SCAR in 7.62 is the bees knees... though mags are kinda hard to find.
Caboose314  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 8:59:51 PM
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Originally Posted By undercoverwookie:
I'd rather have two of almost any other brand AR than a single KAC.

But for the OP's sake, the SR-15, versatility of the AR platform can't be beat.


Why is that?


Why is what? Which part of the post above are you questioning? Because the latter sentence seems like a no brainer. The former has more room for argument.


The first statement.



Just saying I'd rather have two Bushmasters, or Spikes, or DPMS, or PSA, over a single KAC. Without getting into a shouting match over quality or life dependency, in almost all cases concerning AR's I do not find a single "top tier" rifle more advantageous than having two "lesser" quality rifles.


Gotcha, thanks!
BB  [Member]
4/27/2012 9:03:14 PM
Originally Posted By M4A1:
Originally Posted By BB:
KAC over SCAR. Not a fan of reciprocating charging handles.


I like the reciprocating CH and actually prefer it. It won't bother you one bit after some time training with it. Either use a vertical foregrip or keep your hand in the right place and it will never get in the way. Guess I'll be the first to prefer the Scar over the AR. But I have lots of AR's. (Colt, Noveske, DD, LMT)
If OP doesn't own an AR, that should be his first stop simply due to parts availability.
Has nothing to do with my hands or getting used to it; it has to do with it impacting shit I try and shoot around/under or use for support, and causes a stoppage.

showmeballer  [Team Member]
4/27/2012 11:49:25 PM
SBR SR15 is what I would get


Some of the guys on this board that are in the know despise the SCAR, but I mainly just hate the looks of it and that dumb ass boot stock.

soapboxpreacher  [Member]
4/28/2012 12:41:33 AM
I have shot both now extensively. I own an SR15 and my best friend a SCAR-L and a SCAR-H. I really like the H but I would take the SR15 over the L all day! The recoil is better on the L but the muzzle climb is worse so second shoots are not as good on the L. I put a Battlecomp on my SR15 along with a Hogue grip, Eotech, CTR stock, Gripod, and BCM Gunfighter. It is as light with all that stuff on it as my buddies scar l with just an Eotech on it. The recoil impulse on the Scar L is different...almost slow! We did a mag for mag same ammo test with both rifles. We did back to back mags or PMC, XM193, M885, and some other .223 (lower pressure). What we found was the recoil was slightly less ont he SCAR L but muzzle climb was more. The SR15 was more controllable on the muzzle jump and was also more accurate, we both shot the SR15 better. I found the FSC556 (brake on the SCAR) louder and was surprised that it climbed more than the Battlecomp. I was expecting more. His L was 2600 my SR15 was 1850. My trigger is far nicer and the sights are a wash...like both but do like the integration of the SR15 sights a lot!! The SR15 to me is tighter and seems to be crafted nicer. We have played with both for several week and bought his wife out to shot both...she also liked the SR15 better. Now cleanup....I like the scar!! HAHAHA. But the SR15 with the Kit I put together to clean a DI AR makes it a breeze!!! I dont think you can go wrong with either but personally I like the SR15 better...and I was just about to sell my Knight before I shot the SCAR...glad I didnt.

Now lets talk SCAR H...WOW! LOVE IT! But it is totally different. 308 is a different round entirely it is not a rapid fire gun but it certainly handles 308 better than many others rifles. I like 308 but it is pricey!!! So I past on it, I like my 5.56 it is easy to find and nowhere near the expense of the 308. For all the shooting we do...I would be in a cardboard box quick! He can swing it I cant!
Omega-cog  [Member]
4/28/2012 1:10:14 AM
SR-15 E3 all day. When you shoot a scar you can just feel all the reciprocating mass Kachunk Kachunk. The SR-15 E3 is a dream to shoot in most cases. I'd go E3 all day over a scar. In fact I'd pick a LOT of AR's over a SCAR.
PAPPYO  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 2:30:01 AM
how easy are repair parts to obtain for the SCAR rifles?

can you simply order a spare complete bolt head? Factory restricted part? send the rifle to the factory?

I stick to stuff theres a ton of parts for. Makes it simple. Anything mechanicle can and does break with time!