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U5514  [Member]
10/31/2010 2:08:32 PM EST
I've this mil spec height detachable carry handle with the forged mark on the handle to the right of the sight assembly, and I don't know who the manufacturer is. Can someone here please identify it for me? Thanks in advance.
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shadowcop  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 2:25:50 PM EST
Cardinal Forge mark
Rock River, Stag, and some Colts use Cardinal Forge carry handles
Quentin  [Member]
10/31/2010 2:34:27 PM EST
Yeah it's Cardinal Forge. Otherwise you can't tell whether it came off a Colt or FN, etc.
U5514  [Member]
10/31/2010 2:41:20 PM EST
Great, thanks! The guy I bought it from said it came off a Colt so it's true. He thought it was strange that it doesn't have the letter "C" on the handle but instead it's just a forge mark. He didn't know and neither did I. Learn something new everyday!!!
steveodell59  [Member]
10/31/2010 2:44:07 PM EST
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?
crowdlg  [Life Member]
10/31/2010 3:09:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


The Colt and BCM I have are with this same simple square.

The Splinter A and Cardinal forged like the OP I have seen have been Comercial height.
They would not work with a F front post without making the front sight very low or setting the rear up from bottom.
458winmag  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 3:10:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?

BAFE
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U5514  [Member]
10/31/2010 3:11:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


I would like to know that one as well! I bought one from BCM and it does have the same simple square forge mark.

458winmag  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 3:19:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By U5514:
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


I would like to know that one as well! I bought one from BCM and it does have the same simple square forge mark.



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BAFE http://www.baforging.com/pages/aluminum.htm
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U5514  [Member]
10/31/2010 3:26:39 PM EST
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shadowcop  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 3:48:52 PM EST
Not seeing what you are trying to point out.
shadowcop  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 3:52:07 PM EST

––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum
AF = Alcoa Forge
C AF = Colt Alco Forge
C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass
Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge
CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum
Circle/Crosshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite
CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum
CM = Colt / Martin Marietta
D (stylized) = Diemaco
DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum
E = Emco
EK = EMCO/Kaiser
E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass
F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge
FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey
FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum
FM = FN/Martin Marietta
FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass
Keyhole = Cerro Forge
L = Lewis Machine & Tool
LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum
LM = LAR / Martin Marietta
M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries
PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey
PM = Capco / Martin Marietta

[] (square) = Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises



Colt and other MFGs have distributed [] marked carry handles in the past
shadowcop  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 4:06:28 PM EST
From what I found out, Colt puts a C following the forge mark.
You have to measure from the bottom to the rear shelf that the sight sits on to be sure if it's commercial or not.
I think I remember commercial is .795
Mil Spec is .835
GHPorter  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 4:38:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Not seeing what you are trying to point out.
The reply just above his had completely ignored HIS reply that answered the question: the square forge mark is from BAFE or Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises in Ferndale, MI.

458winmag  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 4:49:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
From what I found out, Colt puts a C following the forge mark.
You have to measure from the bottom to the rear shelf that the sight sits on to be sure if it's commercial or not.
I think I remember commercial is .795"
Mil Spec is .835"

Fixed it
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shadowcop  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 4:59:46 PM EST
Thanks, I was afraid I got it wrong.
Fixed it.
Catman2  [Team Member]
10/31/2010 5:59:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By U5514:
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


I would like to know that one as well! I bought one from BCM and it does have the same simple square forge mark.



As soon as I read the OP's question I reached over and looked at the handle on the desk I got from BCM, it's got a square.

blackscribe  [Member]
11/1/2010 10:21:54 AM EST
I saw an upper this morning with the F & Keyhole thing going, but it also had a series of raised dots (roughly) arranged in a square after the Keyhole.
steveodell59  [Member]
11/1/2010 2:18:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By 458winmag:
Originally Posted By U5514:
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


I would like to know that one as well! I bought one from BCM and it does have the same simple square forge mark.



??
BAFE http://www.baforging.com/pages/aluminum.htm
458


Thank you!

GHPorter  [Team Member]
11/1/2010 3:41:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By blackscribe:
I saw an upper this morning with the F & Keyhole thing going, but it also had a series of raised dots (roughly) arranged in a square after the Keyhole.


That's FN-Cerro. But the raised dots are almost certainly just an identifier for which dies struck the blank.
StretchMaK  [Team Member]
11/1/2010 3:47:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Catman2:
Originally Posted By U5514:
Originally Posted By steveodell59:
The carry handle on my Colt LE 6920 was a simple square in the very same place. Aynone know who forged that one?


I would like to know that one as well! I bought one from BCM and it does have the same simple square forge mark.



As soon as I read the OP's question I reached over and looked at the handle on the desk I got from BCM, it's got a square.



My Colt 6700 has the square forge mark.
warpig8654  [Team Member]
11/2/2010 6:40:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By U5514:
I've this mil spec height detachable carry handle with the forged mark on the handle to the right of the sight assembly, and I don't know who the manufacturer is. Can someone here please identify it for me? Thanks in advance.
http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/U5512/AR15/Picture1193.jpg


It was forged by Cardinal Forge, but that's all it tells you. The forge mark doesn't denote who machined & finished the carry handle to the final product. Unless there is a C or an F in addition to the forge mark you can keep guessing as to who finished the piece.
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