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 Bayo for 16 inch barrel M4
bikertrash  [Member]
8/18/2009 4:09:26 AM EST
Do they make a different bayo for an M4 with a 16 inch barrel and carbine length gas system?
Thanks!
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scottrh2  [Team Member]
8/18/2009 5:11:51 AM EST
edlmann  [Member]
8/18/2009 6:27:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By bikertrash:
Do they make a different bayo for an M4 with a 16 inch barrel and carbine length gas system?
Thanks!


I've seen pics of longer-handled bayonets, and of converters, but if I were to start poking bad guys with a knife on a stick, I want a longer stick.
bikertrash  [Member]
8/18/2009 6:30:17 AM EST
So it's funny that I ask a question? Isn't that what these forums are for? Aren't the current issue bayos for the 14.5 inch barrel carbines. I f I knew the answer I wouldn't ask. Unfortunately for me I don't know all the answers.
bikertrash  [Member]
8/18/2009 6:32:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By edlmann:
Originally Posted By bikertrash:
Do they make a different bayo for an M4 with a 16 inch barrel and carbine length gas system?
Thanks!


I've seen pics of longer-handled bayonets, and of converters, but if I were to start poking bad guys with a knife on a stick, I want a longer stick.


Thanks fopr the answer edlmann. I would have to agree with you. I simply posted the question because of something I heard and was curious to find out the truth if there was a difference and if there was an option for the 16 in carbines.
blasterrider88  [Member]
8/18/2009 7:39:07 AM EST
I would personally rather use a sidearm or just a regular fixed blade Cold Steel knife like a Recon Tanto, Trail Master, etc.
Milo5  [Member]
8/18/2009 9:08:52 AM EST
Wanna know why the 14.5" barrel length was standardized for carbines?
So the damn bayonet would fit!
djm227  [Team Member]
8/18/2009 9:12:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By bikertrash:
So it's funny that I ask a question? Isn't that what these forums are for? Aren't the current issue bayos for the 14.5 inch barrel carbines. I f I knew the answer I wouldn't ask. Unfortunately for me I don't know all the answers.


It's not a stupid question. In fact, I was wondering the same thing and was planning on posting about it. I know that they make them, but for the life of me I can't find anyone who sells them.
djm227  [Team Member]
8/20/2009 11:08:17 AM EST
Does anyone know where to buy the longer bayonets for the 16"
jhud  [Team Member]
8/20/2009 11:27:00 AM EST
I could put something like that together. All I need is a loner bayonet.
Texkaw  [Member]
8/20/2009 11:45:14 AM EST


I have a Colt branded 16" carbine Bayo. Preban arms has them. Expen sive, but I like mine, bought it back when they were $60.
djm227  [Team Member]
8/20/2009 12:02:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:


I have a Colt branded 16" carbine Bayo. Preban arms has them. Expen sive, but I like mine, bought it back when they were $60.


Damnnn $200! But still........got any pics of it mounted?
robplumm  [Member]
8/20/2009 12:25:31 PM EST
Why would one want a bayonet anyway? Only time we used them was for ceremonies...like All American day. It serves no combat or tactical purpose any more. If you're in a situation you need one...a buttstroke to the face works well....or learn Jiu Jitsu. ;)

Soooo....last American bayonet charge? It's been a few decades. Bayonet Hill

Although the Scots...those crazy Scots...2004. Fix....Bayonets!
SnaitN  [Member]
8/20/2009 12:55:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By robplumm:
Why would one want a bayonet anyway? Only time we used them was for ceremonies...like All American day. It serves no combat or tactical purpose any more. If you're in a situation you need one...a buttstroke to the face works well....or learn Jiu Jitsu. ;)

Soooo....last American bayonet charge? It's been a few decades. Bayonet Hill

Although the Scots...those crazy Scots...2004. Fix....Bayonets!


An SA80 w/a bayonet? Now THAT is a desperate fight.
jhud  [Team Member]
8/21/2009 9:35:09 PM EST
Here is a M7 bayonet i cooked up for an 11.5 with the Noveske piggy brake. It required a new hilt and changing the height of the lug mount


However, in the 16" case, you need to weld an extension instead of cutting it shorter. The trick is notching the tang so that the lug mount is centered, and tight. After that a spot weld and grind cleans it up, then you can refinish it. I had the noveske bayonet parkerized. The handles will need to be extended some. Ive got a spare set just for something like this.

It is rather easy to make one for a 10" barrel.
gearjammer5  [Member]
8/22/2009 5:07:41 AM EST
It would probably be cheaper to pull the barrel and have ADCO shorten and thread it ,then pin and weld a flash hider on.
Lindy_Hoppin_Gun_Nut  [Member]
8/22/2009 5:46:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By bikertrash:
So it's funny that I ask a question? Isn't that what these forums are for? Aren't the current issue bayos for the 14.5 inch barrel carbines. I f I knew the answer I wouldn't ask. Unfortunately for me I don't know all the answers.


Some people just get riled up too easily. What's your blood pressure? 500/400?

ETA: J/K
rychencop  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 5:55:04 AM EST
Algeman  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 6:41:52 AM EST
Do not worry about the ribbing. It is a guy thing. We see the bayonet lug and want to use it. Just got a bayonet for my 98k this week. Great shape with scabbard and leather. Took out the rifle and fastened bayonet. It looked cool. Took it off and put both back in safe. I am now satisfied. The lugs purpose has now been fulfilled.
anjong-ni  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 7:08:16 AM EST
Hi bikertrash, always wondered too why carbines were't set up for bayonet. DPMS makes a "lug adaptor", #BL-LUG-H, $20, that clamps around the barrel in front of the FSB. They come in two I.D.'s Then you could mount a standard M7, and set it up so that the hilt of the bayonet was as close to the end of the FH as possible. Give you the most "useful length". Might get one myself.....
djm227  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 7:18:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By anjong-ni:
Hi bikertrash, always wondered too why carbines were't set up for bayonet. DPMS makes a "lug adaptor", #BL-LUG-H, $20, that clamps around the barrel in front of the FSB. They come in two I.D.'s Then you could mount a standard M7, and set it up so that the hilt of the bayonet was as close to the end of the FH as possible. Give you the most "useful length". Might get one myself.....


That seems like a much better way to go than buying the one with the longer handle for $200. That's definitely going on my 'to buy' list.
Lashlarue69  [Member]
8/22/2009 7:54:59 AM EST
Put this M10 chinese copy??/, doesn't have Made in China on it any where,on my Galil clone, it's 440 stainless and fits like glove...
ChromeLined  [Member]
8/22/2009 9:00:43 AM EST
I know they make barrel legnths to accomodate the bayonet like 14.5,14.7 and 20" barrels.
W_E_G  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 9:38:56 AM EST
Stonerriflefan44  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 10:00:48 AM EST
if it was 1879 I would want a bayonet.

Nah, J/K

there are various adapters on the market to make a standard bayonet work on a 16
Alpha-Romeo3  [Team Member]
8/22/2009 3:43:51 PM EST
The 16" barrels with carbine gas systems requires a bayonet adapter lug that are 1.5" forward of the bayonet lug, or a custom longer handle bayonet, or just so the bayonet won't rattle on the barrel behind the FS you could put some bicycle inner tube rubber on the barrel.

The barrel length in front of the bayonet lug are 1.5" too long on 16" carbine barrels compared to 14.5" carbine and 16" midlength gas system barrels.

Here's a thread with pics when you put a standard bayonet on 16" carbine gas system barrels.


http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=19&t=413400


Standard bayonets would fit 14.5"/ 14.7" carbine gas systems, 16" midlength gas sytems, and 20" rifles, here's a thread that shows my extended handle bayonet on my 16" carbine on page 2.


Lets See Your Bayonet (pg 2) - thread link


bikertrash  [Member]
8/25/2009 4:30:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By Lindy_Hoppin_Gun_Nut:
Originally Posted By bikertrash:
So it's funny that I ask a question? Isn't that what these forums are for? Aren't the current issue bayos for the 14.5 inch barrel carbines. I f I knew the answer I wouldn't ask. Unfortunately for me I don't know all the answers.


Some people just get riled up too easily. What's your blood pressure? 500/400?

ETA: J/K


Actually my BP is very low according to the Doc. It was merely a smart ass reply to a smart ass post.

Good one tho Lindy!!

DSZM4  [Member]
8/25/2009 5:17:49 AM EST
If you know how to fight with bayos it would not be as funny.

Would i take a pistol over a bayo yes

Would i take a top of the line knife over a mounted bayo HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lindy_Hoppin_Gun_Nut  [Member]
8/25/2009 6:00:03 AM EST
What about an entrenchment tool?
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