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 Where can I purchase a BLANK lower receiver? Is it legal?
Accord  [Member]
1/1/2007 2:16:18 PM
I want to purchase a completely BLANK lower receiver with no company logo, no serial number, nothing. I want to then have the receiver engraved with the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor, my Marine Corps graduation date as the serial number, and other things.

Does anyone know where I can purchase a completely BLANK lower receiver? Is it legal to purchase a blank lower receiver?

Thanks
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npd233  [Team Member]
1/1/2007 2:17:28 PM

Originally Posted By Accord:
I want to purchase a completely BLANK lower receiver with no company logo, no serial number, nothing. I want to then have the receiver engraved with the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor, my Marine Corps graduation date as the serial number, and other things.

Does anyone know where I can purchase a completely BLANK lower receiver? Is it legal to purchase a blank lower receiver?

Thanks


You can purchase an 80% complete lower blank, finish it yourself and apply your own required markings. You cannot purchase a completely finished lower receiver w/o markings. It is considered a firearm and the manufacturer must put on their name, city and a serial number. www.ar15plus.com/
silentweapon338  [Member]
1/1/2007 2:18:29 PM
It is illegal to purchase a blank reciever, but there are several companies that will engrave all of the info you just mentioned for you!
Try here, they bought Tomsaywer out. Orion
PFC_Kramer  [Team Member]
1/1/2007 2:25:10 PM
its not illegal thats what 80 % receivers are for...you just have to finish them yourself. NO serial numbers or markings are required.
AzzKicker  [Member]
1/1/2007 3:25:33 PM
I think you can even blank blank receivers that are only like 20%. You can get them for like 29 bucks. But you need to do most of the milling yourself as in mill out the trigger area, etc. It's best to go the 80% route.
BushmasterGuy77  [Member]
1/1/2007 3:40:35 PM
But I would assume it would be very stupid to try to make an SBR with it... Or would it be possible to fill out the forms with the ATF?
gaspipes  [Member]
1/1/2007 4:08:11 PM

Originally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
But I would assume it would be very stupid to try to make an SBR with it... Or would it be possible to fill out the forms with the ATF?


Sure you can do a From 1, pay the $200. tax and make an SBR out of an 80%. That's more trouble than it's worth to most of us, but a motivated person who wants to make his own with his own serial numbers and logo could sure do it.
BushmasterGuy77  [Member]
1/1/2007 5:09:55 PM

Originally Posted By gaspipes:

Originally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
But I would assume it would be very stupid to try to make an SBR with it... Or would it be possible to fill out the forms with the ATF?


Sure you can do a From 1, pay the $200. tax and make an SBR out of an 80%. That's more trouble than it's worth to most of us, but a motivated person who wants to make his own with his own serial numbers and logo could sure do it.


Thats what I assumed. Thanks.

Nathan
thebigO_1978  [Member]
1/1/2007 8:01:42 PM
That is interesting. So these 80% lowers come with the sear block I am assuming. What would be the correct procedure for creating a full auto lower legally? Assuming I wanted to go through the effort of getting it done legally? Did I misunderstand what this poster typed?
Troy  [Site Staff]
1/1/2007 8:34:24 PM

Originally Posted By thebigO_1978:
That is interesting. So these 80% lowers come with the sear block I am assuming.


Sear blocks are not legally required; manufacturers put them there as an extra bit of CYA, and because it saves some machining time. Nothing says you can't mill yours out to M16 specs. What you *can't* do is drill the auto sear hole, or make any kind of full-auto sear.


What would be the correct procedure for creating a full auto lower legally? Assuming I wanted to go through the effort of getting it done legally? Did I misunderstand what this poster typed?


Unless you are an 07 FFL with an SOT, you can't legally make a full auto lower (defined as: auto sear hole drilled). And, even then, you can only sell them to the government, and you must paperwork the lower with ATF within 24 hours of creating it.

-Troy
thebigO_1978  [Member]
1/2/2007 1:01:48 AM

Originally Posted By Troy:

Originally Posted By thebigO_1978:
That is interesting. So these 80% lowers come with the sear block I am assuming.


Sear blocks are not legally required; manufacturers put them there as an extra bit of CYA, and because it saves some machining time. Nothing says you can't mill yours out to M16 specs. What you *can't* do is drill the auto sear hole, or make any kind of full-auto sear.


What would be the correct procedure for creating a full auto lower legally? Assuming I wanted to go through the effort of getting it done legally? Did I misunderstand what this poster typed?


Unless you are an 07 FFL with an SOT, you can't legally make a full auto lower (defined as: auto sear hole drilled). And, even then, you can only sell them to the government, and you must paperwork the lower with ATF within 24 hours of creating it.

-Troy


Figured as much I'm glad you guys know your stuff. I've learned so much just reading and asking since I joined this forum. Thanks for the info and sorry about the thread jack.
CORNHOLIO1  [Member]
1/2/2007 1:51:40 AM

Sear blocks are not legally required; manufacturers put them there as an extra bit of CYA, and because it saves some machining time. Nothing says you can't mill yours out to M16 specs. What you *can't* do is drill the auto sear hole, or make any kind of full-auto sear.


Thats nuts. I didn't know that was legal. Looks like something you'd have to do at home.
Tony-Ri  [Member]
1/2/2007 1:27:08 PM
IIRC, you can use your AR as a host for a RLL or RDIAS. You might want to mention it in the Class-III or M-16 forum, though.
(If that statement is wrong, please correct me.)
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