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 Colt AR-15A2 "Government Model"
Brewer  [Member]
2/19/2005 6:25:48 AM
Hi All,
I had occasion to stop by a local gunshop yesterday, when they had just taken in an interesting consignment. It was a NIB green label Colt AR-15A2 "Government Model", with a 20" 1/7 barrel and slab-sided lower. The box contained a new-in-package Colt .22 conversion unit, and the endflap was marked so as well. I just had to buy it, and the price was resonable for these parts.
I didn't buy it as a collector piece, I bought it to shoot, so off to the range I went. I went through 100 trouble free rounds of XM193 before calling it a day. Then I got to wondering how many of these Colt "Government Model" rifles are out there. Anybody know? Anything "interesting" about this model?

Oh, and yes, I am an unrepentent Colt addict, although I do own a Bushmaster

Thanks,
Brewer
redfisher  [Team Member]
2/19/2005 6:47:00 AM
have you researched Biggerhammer.net

If not, there may be some info on it there.

Nice find...
fxntime  [Member]
2/19/2005 7:01:08 AM
I have one of those, Mine came with .22 conversion, 3x9 scope, cheekpiece, colt scope mount, I bought it used in 91? or so cheap, guy swore thats how it came and knowing Colt and their somwtimes goofy marketing practices, I tend to believe him, FWIW, the .22 conv is pretty worthless in the 1/7 BBL. It need a 1/12 or 1/14 to work well.
Brewer  [Member]
2/19/2005 8:21:45 AM
I had the same suspicions about the .22 conversion unit. I'm curious to see how it does (maybe even as a single shot with those Aguila 60 grain SSS thingies). Otherwise, I might sell the conversion unit as it's new-in-blister-pack. I love the rifle! I'm going to go shoot it again in about a half an hour.

Thanks!
Brewer
SBR7_11  [Team Member]
2/19/2005 10:24:18 AM
I bought mine new in box in late '88. Picked it up the first week of Jan-'89.... 2 week later Patrick Purdy shot up the school yard in Stockton - CA, then came all the COLT "PC" crap.

Mine is GS-0039xx

The 22kits came out after the shooting incident, I bought a 22LR kit in late 90 or early 91 I think it was.
criley  [Team Member]
2/19/2005 10:40:40 AM
I like mine but I don't shoot it very often. Very nice, very accurate. Fewer Gov't Models around than Gov't Carbines.
bsbg  [Team Member]
2/19/2005 12:03:31 PM
There are about 10,000 Gov't Models out there. Is the box marked 6550K? I believe that was the designation for the factory included 22 conversion kit.

If it was me, I wouldn't have shot it, but I am a fanatic. I don't even shoot mine that I bought well used...
MuRDoC  [Member]
2/19/2005 12:13:36 PM
I use a 22conversion in my 1/7 20" all the time, it does great groupings at 25yds, I haven't tried it farther out, but it will have a smaller jagged hole than what I can get wth reg 55gr 5.56, and those colt 22 kits have been going for 300 bucks, 40 for the mag alone
OODA_Loop  [Member]
2/19/2005 1:00:00 PM
Mine is #GS0004xx, probably very early.
The barrel is A2 1/7 gov't, the furniture is all A2.
The upper is C7 (i.e. M16A1 with brass hump).
Lower is slabslide like an SP1.

Mine shoots very well; however for years voices in my head have been telling me that that barrel/bolt/furniture belongs on a flattop, the upper belongs on the EE, and the lower needs to be used to build an XM177E2 repligun.

I bought it from a contested estate in California at the very end of 1999; it had been fired very little and came with two Colt 20's, three NIW Center 30's, no box or papers, and I paid $575 + ship and a nominal transfer fee in my state.

That, a Mauser Broomhandle deal I found, and my wife are the only real instances of plain dumb luck in my life ;)
Str8shot  [Member]
2/19/2005 1:03:25 PM
If you don't plan on keeping it all together as a 'collectable', you'll have some die-hard fans crying in their beer .

I really like the Govt model, mine is a 6551. It didn't come with the .22 conversion kit, but I bought a new- in -blister -pack Colt kit as part of a big box of AR stuff at a gunshow for a very reasonable price. The box also contained an M16A1 complete upper w/ bolt and carrier that I really wanted, and the price was right making the conversion kit pretty much a freebie .

I was going to install the kit in one of my AR's just to see how it worked but luckily ran into a fellow AR fan at a gunclub meeting who had experience with the conversion kits. After what he told me and demonstrated at the range - poor accuracy, lots of fouling after relatively few rounds, etc. I put the project on hold.

I got the bright idea to list the kit on GunsAmerica.com and almost immediately sold it to a Colt collector in MA for $300! It was a lot more valuable to him as a collector than it was to me as a shooter .

If I bought a complete package as you describe I'd probably wind up keeping it together 'cause it will probably command some big bucks someday. If you don't elect to go that route I'd suggest selling the conversion kit as you'll get more money for it as a collectable than its worth as a shooter.

Just my .02
Brewer  [Member]
2/19/2005 1:39:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Guys.

I just got back from the range with the new acquisition. After I settled in for some serious work off the bench, the rifle and I were capable of 2.5" groups at 100 yards with XM193, which is as good as my eyes will allow. I think I will do as some suggested, and keep the .22 conversion kit pristine and in the original box. It is marked with the "K" as described above, so I'm sure it'll retain its value better if it's kept together as a unit.

I love these "old" Colts.

Thanks,
Brewer
Boomer  [Team Member]
2/20/2005 1:43:54 AM
The R6550k came out in early 1990 when Colt AR15s began to reappear sans bayonet lugs in the commercial market after the whole Patrick Purdy incident. At the time I had been searching high and low for a Colt AR15 and when I finally saw a new one sitting on a dealer's shelf for the then reasonable price of $799 I bought it on the spot in April or May of 1990. Didn't give it a whole lot of thought at the time, but turns out it was an R6550k, with the .22LR adapter. It was my first AR15 and to this day remains my favorite AR15, the one I would keep above all others.

I've found shooting .22LR through the 1/7 barrel to provide reasonable accuracy. At least enough to hit soda cans out to 100 yards or so. It's also fun to shoot Remington cbEE .22s through it as they are nearly silent, although they aren't powerful enough operate the semi-automatic action.

Personally, I would keep the adapter and the box. They add to it's collector value and desirability.
gewamser  [Member]
2/20/2005 7:35:36 AM
You are one lucky SOB...those are harder than hell to find, and most people just make their own from an HBAR. I owned one once and have been kicking my self in the ass ever since for selling it. It is my favorite configuration of an AR, even though I own several M-4 types, and so on. Enjoy it!
Sargeshobbies  [Member]
2/20/2005 8:38:20 AM
Nice Find! I think I hate you.......

You guys in MA. don't have a AWB?

I'm one of your unfortunate CT. neighbors.
Brewer  [Member]
2/20/2005 9:54:28 AM
Hi Sarge,
Yes, we here in MA do have our own AWB, which is a mirror of the federal law. This keeps retial prices high on pre-bans, but transfers from out-of-state of pre-10/94 rifles are just fine. You're liable to see pre-bans on dealer shelves here for $1300-1600, but you can buy 'em all day off the EE here for $900 and have them transferred in. My Colt Gov't Model AR-15A2 was from an in-state collection, though. The guy had pre-ban AR's, nice Polytech AK's, HK-91's, lots of nice stuff. Oh, so many guns, so little money!

Brewer
fxntime  [Member]
2/21/2005 8:48:40 PM

Originally Posted By OODA_Loop:
Mine is #GS0004xx, probably very early.
The barrel is A2 1/7 gov't, the furniture is all A2.
The upper is C7 (i.e. M16A1 with brass hump).
Lower is slabslide like an SP1.

Mine shoots very well; however for years voices in my head have been telling me that that barrel/bolt/furniture belongs on a flattop, the upper belongs on the EE, and the lower needs to be used to build an XM177E2 repligun.

I bought it from a contested estate in California at the very end of 1999; it had been fired very little and came with two Colt 20's, three NIW Center 30's, no box or papers, and I paid $575 + ship and a nominal transfer fee in my state.

That, a Mauser Broomhandle deal I found, and my wife are the only real instances of plain dumb luck in my life ;)


Mine also has A GS prefix, not a whole lot of info out there on that prefix. As I bought mine used for $600 in 91 I have no idea how they were sold. Mine came with 2 5 round mags. Mine shot very accurately with 5.56, keyholed past 40 yds or so with cheapo .22LR. It still is one of my favorites, all I have done is put on a harris bipod, thats it, and thats easily removed. I do not have the original box, it came in a hard case made for an AR, as the velcro tiedowns match the handle and such.
Rmplstlskn  [Team Member]
2/21/2005 9:40:20 PM
Here is my 6550, Serial number GS00019xx. I love this rifle and it is by far my favorite. I sometimes put my ACOG TA11D on her... I'm not a precision, long-range shooter, but if the need arised, this is the rifle with ACOG I would use to complete the task... My M4 is just for close-in play...

Rmpl


Dave_Pendleton  [Member]
2/22/2005 12:34:27 PM
I have a 6550, numbered GS0004xx. Came from the Utah State Highway Patrol.

I've never been able to find a good serial number list.
dobk  [Team Member]
2/26/2005 11:35:28 AM
I was top bidder on this auction and picked it up from my FFL last week. Turned out to be a 6550 and they undergraded it as it is an easy 98%. Also came with the manual, green label from the box, cleaning kit, and had the tampon in the barrel. Extremely happy with it

Colt -- COLT AR-15A2 Gov. Carabine caliber .223
redfisher  [Team Member]
2/26/2005 12:05:09 PM
Congratulations, dobk!

That is a terrific 20"er. One of these days, I too will have one of those.....

They are a genuine classic.
cloak-n-carbine  [Team Member]
2/26/2005 12:25:58 PM

Originally Posted By Brewer:
Hi Sarge,
Yes, we here in MA do have our own AWB, which is a mirror of the federal law. This keeps retial prices high on pre-bans, but transfers from out-of-state of pre-10/94 rifles are just fine. You're liable to see pre-bans on dealer shelves here for $1300-1600, but you can buy 'em all day off the EE here for $900 and have them transferred in. My Colt Gov't Model AR-15A2 was from an in-state collection, though. The guy had pre-ban AR's, nice Polytech AK's, HK-91's, lots of nice stuff. Oh, so many guns, so little money!

Brewer



I gotta know.....where did you pick that thing up? That is a sweet grab. Which part of MA are you in? ****eta- from one "unrepentant Colt addict" to another ***