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mousegunner  [Member]
4/19/2005 8:13:00 AM EST
Do you carry the IOR 1.1-4x26 scope with an illuminated CQB reticle?

I'm looking for something for IPSC matches, with a minimum magnification as close to 1x as possible, and an illuminated reticle that could funtion as a red dot at close range. I have a 3-9x Accupoint, but want something a bit more appropriate to close-in work.

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SWFA  [Industry Partner]
4/23/2005 11:43:14 AM EST
Yes we do, it will be on our site soon.
mousegunner  [Member]
4/25/2005 8:09:29 AM EST
Thanks for the response.

Do you have any other suggestions for this purpose? S&B? Kahles? Accupoint 1.25-4?

Again, I need a minimum magnification near 1x and an illuminated reticle bright enough to be used as a red dot in mid-day light at close ranges, with a maximum magnification of around 4x.

I've got the 3x-9x Accupoint, and part of me is thinking that the 1.25-4 (with the red reticle) would be OK, but the 1.1x spec on some of the others seems tempting too...
SWFA  [Industry Partner]
4/26/2005 7:41:51 AM EST
You are right on with your IOR pick.....stick with it.
QuinlanV  [Team Member]
5/4/2005 6:56:03 AM EST
They sound interesting. What is the price like on that optic?
paramarine326  [Member]
5/4/2005 7:08:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By SWFA:
You are right on with your IOR pick.....stick with it.


Do you think the IOR is bright enough for daytime use?
I've heard (but I've never tried one, so I can't say for sure) that the one knock against this otherwise excellent scope is the fact that it just isn't bright enough for daytime use.
photoman  [Team Member]
5/4/2005 7:12:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By SWFA:
You are right on with your IOR pick.....stick with it.



Got to disagree, the IOR scopes retical illumination is not bright enough for daylight BAC type aiming.

They weren't designed to be used that way thats why the retical is not bright enough to use it that way.

ETA: It should still work for what you want though just won't have the BAC like with an S&B short dot. I run a non illuminated 1-4x20 scope(leupold VXII) and there are no issues not having the BAC ability.
SWFA  [Industry Partner]
5/5/2005 6:29:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By QuinlanV:
They sound interesting. What is the price like on that optic?



$699.95
mousegunner  [Member]
5/5/2005 10:13:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By SWFA:
You are right on with your IOR pick.....stick with it.



Got to disagree, the IOR scopes retical illumination is not bright enough for daylight BAC type aiming.

They weren't designed to be used that way thats why the retical is not bright enough to use it that way.

ETA: It should still work for what you want though just won't have the BAC like with an S&B short dot. I run a non illuminated 1-4x20 scope(leupold VXII) and there are no issues not having the BAC ability.




Check out a review of the 2002 version of this scope (see paragraph 9):

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/IOR_11-4x26_CRT_IllumRiflescope.asp

The reviewer states that the reticle is not bright enough in the 2002 version, but that IOR claimed that the next year's version would be larger and brighter.

Which version are you saying is too dim for CQB work?

SWFA - any comment on the reticle brightness issue?
photoman  [Team Member]
5/5/2005 11:01:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By mousegunner:

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By SWFA:
You are right on with your IOR pick.....stick with it.



Got to disagree, the IOR scopes retical illumination is not bright enough for daylight BAC type aiming.

They weren't designed to be used that way thats why the retical is not bright enough to use it that way.

ETA: It should still work for what you want though just won't have the BAC like with an S&B short dot. I run a non illuminated 1-4x20 scope(leupold VXII) and there are no issues not having the BAC ability.




Check out a review of the 2002 version of this scope (see paragraph 9):

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/IOR_11-4x26_CRT_IllumRiflescope.asp

The reviewer states that the reticle is not bright enough in the 2002 version, but that IOR claimed that the next year's version would be larger and brighter.

Which version are you saying is too dim for CQB work?

SWFA - any comment on the reticle brightness issue?



I've yet to see a single IOR illuminated retical scope that will allow for BAC use. Including the 1.1-4. But I can't honestly say any of the ones I've looked through were newer than 2003, though I have looked though about 6 since 2k3. But as far as I know IOR never followed through with the increases in retical brightness, I may be wrong though.

If you like the 1.1-4 from IOR(I'm a big fan of IOR scopes) I'd find somone that knows for sure they have a 2003 or newer version of it and ask them how it works as far as BAC or even better check it out yourself.
mousegunner  [Member]
5/6/2005 8:24:50 AM EST
And while we're on the topic, any ETA on an S&B Zenith 1.1-4x with a Flash Dot reticle? (I like the S&B PM CQB scope, but ouch! on the price - the Zenith is bad enough).
ChrisG  [Member]
5/6/2005 8:39:08 AM EST
I've got the exact model you're inquiring about ( IOR 1.1-4x26 scope with an illuminated CQB reticle). I purchased it late last year. I have no idea what the "model date" is on it tho.

It isn't anywhere near bright enough to use as a daylight red dot sight. In any event, I'm really happy with the scope.

HTH.
mousegunner  [Member]
5/7/2005 6:52:51 AM EST
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, for my needs, I'd really like the ability to crank up the reticle brightness for quick shots at close to medium range. It's for IPSC matches, and speed rules.
photoman  [Team Member]
5/7/2005 6:54:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By mousegunner:
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, for my needs, I'd really like the ability to crank up the reticle brightness for quick shots at close to medium range. It's for IPSC matches, and speed rules.



Honestly it's not needed with a 1-4. I've never had a problem with close in stuff. If you want to turn the retical on all the way, than whenyou looking into a shadowed area the retical will stand out a lil bit more than without. But in all honestly 1-4 optics are pretty quick without the BAC when mounted and used properly.
steven1513  [Team Member]
5/10/2005 7:44:57 PM EST
Somebody please explain how the IOR CQB reticle works. It appears simple once you know how to use it.
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