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 45-degree offset rail?
Lowtrac  [Member]
12/13/2010 12:04:39 PM
Marsh,

Do you have any plans to sell a 45-degree offset rail for the Micro Reflex site? I'm digging the scope/reflex setup, but I'm not a big fan of mounting the reflex site to the scope. I'd rather attach it to the top rail independent of the scope.

MARSH1  [Industry Partner]
12/13/2010 7:05:51 PM
Would this work?

LInk
headless1916  [Member]
12/14/2010 1:24:49 AM
Wow - I was looking at doing the PA offset scope mount w/ the 3-9x scope i'll be picking up from you this week, Marshall - but that offset mount really looks nice. Could you tell me if the offset mount w/ your micro reflex would fit 'under' the 3-9x scope or would it need to be mounted ahead of or behind it?

Also, could you explain why you might want this instead of the offset mount you linked; they look very similar:

http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=847&categoryId=222

Does one fit the reflex sight under the scope where the other doesn't, or is the angle (1-o click vs. 45 degrees) the only difference?

Thanks!
Lowtrac  [Member]
12/14/2010 9:00:26 AM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Would this work?

LInk


Exactly. I need to spend more time on your site apparently.

Thanks for the link.
Lowtrac  [Member]
12/14/2010 9:22:18 AM
Originally Posted By headless1916:
Wow - I was looking at doing the PA offset scope mount w/ the 3-9x scope i'll be picking up from you this week, Marshall - but that offset mount really looks nice. Could you tell me if the offset mount w/ your micro reflex would fit 'under' the 3-9x scope or would it need to be mounted ahead of or behind it?

Also, could you explain why you might want this instead of the offset mount you linked; they look very similar:

http://www.primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=847&categoryId=222

Does one fit the reflex sight under the scope where the other doesn't, or is the angle (1-o click vs. 45 degrees) the only difference?

Thanks!


I don't know for sure, but looking at the pictures of the offset scope mount, you'd have to mount the offset rail in front of or behind the mount. There's no space for it to mount directly under. You could also mount it on the side of a quad-rail.

As for the Weaver over the NCStar, I think someone might go for the Weaver because Weaver has a better reputation than NCStar.
Lowtrac  [Member]
12/14/2010 9:37:44 AM
This is what I'm looking at doing:



I like the idea of being able to use both optics at the range without having to re-zero, as well as using the reflex site alone with a small riser for a lighter-weight setup for training or plinking. I'd just prefer to have the reflex site closer to the upper receiver than a scope tube mount would allow.


headless1916  [Member]
12/14/2010 1:49:50 PM
Originally Posted By Lowtrac:
This is what I'm looking at doing:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/telestroud/DSC02958.jpg

I like the idea of being able to use both optics at the range without having to re-zero, as well as using the reflex site alone with a small riser for a lighter-weight setup for training or plinking. I'd just prefer to have the reflex site closer to the upper receiver than a scope tube mount would allow.




That is exactly what I want to do also. That picture is what i would consider as the offset mount 'under' the scope, since it's clamped between the mount/rings that hold the scope. I really want to do that with the 3-9x PA scope and their micro green holo sight. It looks like you'd have to use rings to do that though, since the PA mount/deluxe mount cover the rail under the scope. Is that true, Marshall? My old 4x is out for delivery for you today, so i'll be putting in an order later :) just got to decide which mount to get for the 3-9x and for the micro green holo.

I really like how much closer to the rifle/bore line the 45 degree ofset mount puts the site vs. putting it on the offset scope tube mount. Also like that I could remove the scope without having to remove+attach the holographic sight again..
headless1916  [Member]
12/15/2010 3:35:42 PM
FYI Lowtrac, I spoke with Brett and had he actually tested to make sure the green holo reflex would fit on the weaver mount with the weaver mount clamped between 2 medium height primary arms scope rings. Plenty of clearance, he said :) Can't wait to put it on my TWS dogleg equipped AK74; should be here by friday. I'll take a picture.
Lowtrac  [Member]
12/16/2010 9:10:04 AM
Cool. I was looking at getting the standard AR15 scope mount, but it looks like there'll be room under the scope if you put the offset rail right up behind the rear of the mount.

Looking forward to the pics.
Charlestonsailing  [Member]
12/22/2010 3:28:59 PM
I have the micro green reflex holo sight mounted on a 3-9 scope with the scope tube mount. I found that the best position for it is rotated at a downward angle from the scope. I wish I had a picture but to try to describe it, if you are looking at the rifle from behind with the 3-9 at the top, my green dot is mounted from the 3-9 and is rotated so that it is in ~ the 4 o'clock position relative to the 3-9. It is in a good spot there so when you roll the rifle to shoot with it it is just right. The only negative with that is zeroing it is a pain in the butt.
dmjerrywest44  [Member]
12/22/2010 5:33:34 PM
Daniel Defense offset mount with a primary arms gen 6 micro dot is pretty slick



headless1916  [Member]
12/26/2010 5:54:38 PM
Hey all. Got to take the 3-9 and holo combo out to the range; i really do like it. Amazing how much heavier the rifle is once you add a few things to it...
here are some shots of the setup how I like it - with the green dot close as possible to my eye

I also am using a CAA tube adapter w/ an ACE adjustable m4 stock



Still enough clearance for my left hand to operate the zoom adjustment ring. I like the butler creek flip-ups; never going w/ those bikini covers again. This is using the weaver offset sight rail that PA sells.


Here's how it looks through the scope; you can just barely see the green holo poking around the side :)


And here's the green dot; sorry about the blur...my camera either uses the flash + gives clear pictures but overexposed, or doesn't use the flash and gives blurry crap :(