Pricing Going Up?
I have noticed the pricing for uppers have gone up quite a bit over the last few months. Seems that after the holiday sale and the new website was put up.
A 14.7 complete upper seems to have a lot of extra charges it didn't have before. Like the CH for $17.95, pin and weld muzzle device for $20, BCG for $80.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/complete-uppers/psa-14-7-hammer-forged-m4a1-upper.html
As low as and price configured seems to be misleading to me. Over $100 for the stuff that should be normal.
I looked back at some other pricing and dang its gone up!
Here is a 14.5 for $399 that has everything, no extra charges unless you want different HG etc....and it has a YHM flash hider instead of the standard A2.
http://www.ar15news.com/2011/05/20/new-palmetto-state-armory-14-5-5-56-17-chrome-lined-complete-upper-399-99/
Guess I should've got it last year instead of waiting. Now it seems there low prices have caught up or surpassed their competition.
I know its a 14.5 compared to the newer 14.7 and even the barrel from before is prob 4140 instead of the 4150 FN bbl now but dang.
I would happily buy one of the older 4140 for the older price but now may have to shop elsewhere or just build it myself over time as funds permit.

Maybe you can build a time machine.

Ohhh, good idea!
Might be cheaper. ETA after looking thru several posts I see subwofer2 likes to speak out. If you don't have something to say constructively then STFU
Just can't figure out what I have read into PSA's response in other threads saying they lowered the price on the uppers and then have it to where you can add or delete items on the order page. So basically from what I remember the price is the same but just itemized now. I don't see it.
Prices definately more now. When they broke down their pricing the end result of the same upper is now about 20 more for most uppers as far as I can tell and of course they had some on sale like the Midlength Hammer Forged ones that went off sale and ended up being like 70 bucks more. Does not matter who keeps their price the same anyway no one with any business sence. Prices should rise with demand and fall when that demand lowers. That is simple economics and PSA should not bear any shame for doing so. They have met customer demand by offering more choices in parts options on the upper builds and I would think that in itself would cause for a price increase as now each upper essentially has to be built to customer spec as opposed to building the exact same rifle upper each time. I would think that would have an effect on productivity and thus pricing. As well as the fact that the payroll has jumped to 90 employees so their cost of business has gone I would expect a rise in prices just based on that alone. All those people who could not wait on their products and had to have them now spoiled it a bit for the rest of us willing to wait abit on our orders. Had we all been happy to wait for them to get around to our orders whenever they could then maybe they could have done with less employees at the cost of shipping times. But it is fairly obvious we live in a Fast Food world and our desire to wait for something good has diminished significantly over the years. PSA did and is doing to what it has to do to remain competative and in business. When they have become known as top tier product in the industry then maybe they can worry less about shipping times as more people would be willinjg to wait based on Name Recognition and customer loyalty. Just be glad we got in on the ground for and we were able to take advantage of some of those really low prices when we could. I think everyone will be going up in prices really soon as the election draws closer and demand for everybody rises and product supply dwindles.
Psst...
There is another Obama Spectre run on guns and stuff now.... Better buy what you can now.
You also have to remember that the post you linked to was a "new" product, and was introduced at a "introductory price" sale, as were most of the uppers they introduced last year. Once they are no longer a new product, the sale pricing goes away and they go to "normal retail" price. I don't know how they determine how long the introductory price is allowed to run, it may be for the first "run" of barrels for that product, or maybe they have a set timeframe. I think everyone was spoiled by a high quality product at an "elcheapo" price, I know I was.
Originally Posted By Codyboy:
Ohhh, good idea!
Might be cheaper. ETA after looking thru several posts I see subwofer2 likes to speak out. If you don't have something to say constructively then STFU
Just can't figure out what I have read into PSA's response in other threads saying they lowered the price on the uppers and then have it to where you can add or delete items on the order page. So basically from what I remember the price is the same but just itemized now. I don't see it.
I LOLed.
You're right though prices did go slightly up.
Though the 14.5 upper you were mentioning was not hammer-forged like the 14.7 upper you're talking about.
Looks like they don't have any non-hammer forged 14.7 uppers in-stock now.
I was going to recommend you look at the 16" non-hammer forged but looks like they're out of stock as well.
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Psst...
There is another Obama Spectre run on guns and stuff now.... Better buy what you can now.
Do you realize why prices are going up?
It's not due to Obama, it's due to paranoid people that get second mortgage and sell their mother to buy more ammo and guns out of panic about Obama.
In-turn it's driving demand and prices up.
Seriously annoying when people try to scare others into spending absurd amounts of money.
Just as imbecile dealers had signs up at gun shows that said "Buy this before Obama outlaws it" -
When Obama just went into office.
Nothing but dumb scare tactics.
Originally Posted By Johnnyb01:
You also have to remember that the post you linked to was a "new" product, and was introduced at a "introductory price" sale, as were most of the uppers they introduced last year. Once they are no longer a new product, the sale pricing goes away and they go to "normal retail" price. I don't know how they determine how long the introductory price is allowed to run, it may be for the first "run" of barrels for that product, or maybe they have a set timeframe. I think everyone was spoiled by a high quality product at an "elcheapo" price, I know I was.
Yea I get that. I looked at PSA and then others and said WOW! I think I'll be buying from PSA. I never thought about a few months down the road.
Get while the gettin's good!
Should have remembered that from long ago with other things in life!
Still doesn't explain that in some posts here if you look, PSA says their price is the same as before but broken down and itemized so to speak. Well $537,90 doesn't look the same as $399 no matter how the pie is sliced.
I was going for a budget build, but now it looks that is out the window.
I ordered and got a Thanksgiving sale lower and MOE kit, and was saving my funds for the upper. Trying to get by with under $600 for a nice rifle. Now it looks as if its going to be in the $700 + range.
From even $699 to $701 seems to be a large leap. Especially from my wife's point of view.
I am kicking myself right now. I have a complete lower ready for an upper to be pinned in place, but will have to wait for a sale or just bite the bullet.
Codyboy,
Not a fan of humor, do you feel like your entitled to PSA changing their policy because you couldn't afford to place your order sooner?
Do you expect PSA to change their bushiness model because you started a b*tching thread? I'm not going to waste my time counting but your's is not the first over the last two months.
Grow up, get with the times and get over it.
The BP around the corner raised their gas price by .03 yesterday. I should have filled up last week, its just not fair.


Originally Posted By Sud:
The BP around the corner raised their gas price by .03 yesterday. I should have filled up last week, its just not fair.


Exactly and thanks for your comment, I find it to be constructive.
Glad i got mine when they didnt charge for the charging handle (im getting a bcm gunfighter anyways) and the strikefire was $15 cheaper. I think a couple other things from my order also went up in price. Also wait time went up to 15business days.
Prices went up slightly, but so have our costs. We are trying to keep our prices as reasonable as possible.
The demand we are seeing right now is unprecedented to us. We are doing our best to keep product in stock.
If you plan on buying an item, I would place and order soon.
Thanks,
Jamin
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Psst...
There is another Obama Spectre run on guns and stuff now.... Better buy what you can now.
Pssst....
There 5 times as many companies building/selling AR's as there were 4 years ago. Went to a gun show yesterday and saw stacks of Colts for sale, something that had previously been scarce, there were Stags and RRA's, and Bushies and WW's (same thing basically, lol) and everything else piled to the roof, tons of product, not near as many buyers as I saw a couple months ago. Market is about to get glutted is what's about to happen, then the bottom will fall out.
Traded stocks for waaaaay too many years to get fooled by this, if AR's are still selling that briskly, they are not even close to all getting sold to U.S. consumers, probably ATF selling to mexican cartels again, lol.
Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Psst...
There is another Obama Spectre run on guns and stuff now.... Better buy what you can now.
Pssst....
There 5 times as many companies building/selling AR's as there were 4 years ago. Went to a gun show yesterday and saw stacks of Colts for sale, something that had previously been scarce, there were Stags and RRA's, and Bushies and WW's (same thing basically, lol) and everything else piled to the roof, tons of product, not near as many buyers as I saw a couple months ago. Market is about to get glutted is what's about to happen, then the bottom will fall out.
Traded stocks for waaaaay too many years to get fooled by this, if AR's are still selling that briskly, they are not even close to all getting sold to U.S. consumers, probably ATF selling to mexican cartels again, lol.
This man speaks the truth. 
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Originally Posted By srob7001:
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Ammo for one.
In 2008 around elections a case of XM193 was $400 for a box of 1000.
Now you can get the same case for $300.
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By srob7001:
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Ammo for one.
In 2008 around elections a case of XM193 was $400 for a box of 1000.
Now you can get the same case for $300.
Oh, C'mon...you can't count election scare mark ups.
Originally Posted By srob7001:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By srob7001:
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Ammo for one.
In 2008 around elections a case of XM193 was $400 for a box of 1000.
Now you can get the same case for $300.
Oh, C'mon...you can't count election scare mark ups.
Um ... that is exactly what's happening now. All over again.
Possible reasons...
-It has come out their barrels are jsut as good, if not better then other expensive brands
-They are now selling to distributors, so they need to raise prices to make the distributor's prices reasonable
-They want to cash in on the Obama Scare.
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Possible reasons...
-It has come out their barrels are jsut as good, if not better then other expensive brands
-They are now selling to distributors, so they need to raise prices to make the distributor's prices reasonable
-They want to cash in on the Obama Scare.
Or you know, their costs actually went up.
I honestly believe the manufacturers have increased their pricing when they noticed the demand going up. (This is EXACTLY what munition factories do)
In-turn the increase is trickling down to Palmetto and onto us.
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Possible reasons...
-It has come out their barrels are jsut as good, if not better then other expensive brands
-They are now selling to distributors, so they need to raise prices to make the distributor's prices reasonable
-They want to cash in on the Obama Scare.
Or you know, their costs actually went up. 
Hey tinfoil hat reasons, are the only REASONABLE reasons

Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Possible reasons...
-It has come out their barrels are jsut as good, if not better then other expensive brands
-They are now selling to distributors, so they need to raise prices to make the distributor's prices reasonable
-They want to cash in on the Obama Scare.
Or you know, their costs actually went up. 
Hey tinfoil hat reasons, are the only REASONABLE reasons

Sadly the only time we will ever see price reduction is when demand is reduced.
Just like when people started getting over the 2008 scare and demand decreased, lower prices followed.
Aslong as people are stock-piling for imminent invasion of ak-47 welding zombies riding attack velociraptors, prices will continue to increase considering the fact that those people will pay any absurd price.
That being said, it's nice to see that Palmetto pricing is still very reasonable. And they do have items in-stock for the most part.
Originally Posted By LeonC:
Aslong as people are stock-piling for imminent invasion of ak-47 welding zombies riding attack velociraptors,
Hahahaha.....classic

Originally Posted By srob7001:
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Only thing I can think of at the moment is the value of my house.

Originally Posted By wagonwheel1:
Originally Posted By srob7001:
I really get a kick out of threads like this.
Did you guys really NOT expect a price increase, after you have asked for a fireing booth, more employees, better C.S., this upper, that barrel, etc., etc?
You asked and recieved, end of story.
And I can guarantee you prices will always continue to go up, it's just how things work in the USA.
I would just love for you guys to list anything that has gone down in price over the years, not just on sale, because I sure as hell can't think of anything. Also, a new model coming out making the older one cheaper doesn't count either. That's just what companies do when they want to get rid of old stock.
Anyways.....I still love PSA and will always look to them first for my AR needs.
Only thing I can think of at the moment is the value of my house.

Oh snap! Ya, you got that right. The price of stuff we buy goes up, the value of stuff we own goes down.
So how do you explain the price of new houses going down also.
Its all econmics 101. Supply and demand.
Demand is high and the prices will keep going up until it hits the equilibrium point. At that point if things are done correct there will not be a shortage or overstock. A company is only willing and able to bring so many items to the market at a certain price over a certain period of time, if more is wanted then the price goes up.
So, if people would not want there great products so much the price would go down.
Oh yeah thanks for the EXTRA AMMO.
I just received my order of AR,carbine and 1911 magazines and various parts and accessories from PSA,shipped to Hawaii for $6.00! The packing was the best I've ever seen and it is consistent with my previous purchases of lower receivers and complete rifle kits! PSA rocks!

Well after a little more research and comparing prices to others, and with so many being out of stock on parts or complete uppers, I ordered last night a PSA 14.7 CMV upper.
The reason I started this thread was because in several replies I read here by PSA they said their price was the same but was now broken down by showing charges for the CH and BCG.
It was not a bash of PSA but more of an inquiry of what was said in the past. I know that S & D plays a part in prices.
I was on a rant and sorry if it came off the wrong way. I know PSA makes as good as stuff or better than others, no question about it.
I noticed 5.56 ammo went up to 6.19 for PMC :-(
Yup, I'm just glad I got my rifle kit when I did in Nov. The same M4A1 CHF CL 16" carbine w/ MOE black gear that I paid 589.00 for then cost 629.00 now. Both might still be great prices...but forty bucks is forty bucks.
I'm just hoping they can sell a .308 for under $1000.00 when they get them...that would be nice.