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Newbie with some ACR Basic questions.
4/12/2011 10:14:02 PM
Hey fellas!
LONG TIME lurker. I am torn between a spikes tactical midlength AR or an ACR. I was hoping that an owner of both would chime in and tell of reasons why one would trump the other. Whichever one I choose will be used as a home defense, shtf, possible 3 gun, and of course a range toy rifle. Mostly being used as a range toy. Im 6'4 325 if that's makes any difference and will be new to both AR's and the ACR. The AR I would get from spikes would have a 14.5" barrel with a pinned vortex FH, 13.2" rail and billet upper/ lower with acs stock. I have been quoted $~1600 for the AR and $1650 for a basic black ACR. Spikes has a lifetime warranty and the ACR only has a one year warranty and that kinda worries me. How is the ACR'S reliability and accuracy compared to higher end AR's? Any input would be appreciated fellas.
Thanks,
Rick
LONG TIME lurker. I am torn between a spikes tactical midlength AR or an ACR. I was hoping that an owner of both would chime in and tell of reasons why one would trump the other. Whichever one I choose will be used as a home defense, shtf, possible 3 gun, and of course a range toy rifle. Mostly being used as a range toy. Im 6'4 325 if that's makes any difference and will be new to both AR's and the ACR. The AR I would get from spikes would have a 14.5" barrel with a pinned vortex FH, 13.2" rail and billet upper/ lower with acs stock. I have been quoted $~1600 for the AR and $1650 for a basic black ACR. Spikes has a lifetime warranty and the ACR only has a one year warranty and that kinda worries me. How is the ACR'S reliability and accuracy compared to higher end AR's? Any input would be appreciated fellas.
Thanks,
Rick
4/12/2011 10:39:54 PM
It comes down to preference. I don't have a spikes but Hell an AR is an AR some are just nicer than others and put together allot better. With that being said. The AR has a shit load of parts and accessories available. If anything were to break, you could head over the EE or any of the above sponsors and have your parts in 2 or 3 days. The ACR is only about 2 years old. There are no parts available accept stocks and hand guards. So if something breaks and BM won't sell you the part. Your sending your gun back to BM for them to fix or replace the part. Chances are they are going to take care of it under warranty. The ACR is going to be a 1.5lb-2.5lb's heavier than the base AR, and your stuck with the 16.5 1.9 barrel.
With all that being said, I picked up an ACR and love it. The Ergo's are great to include the charging handle. It is heavier but its not like your lugging around a 15lb gun. The spare parts or lack there of sucks, but I have AR's if I really needed a SHTF type scenario and the ACR failed. More than likely I would have failed long before it did. The ACR is just the next evolution in combat rifles. It is only going to get better. In a few more years you should see parts etc for it. Hell the AR has been around for 30+ years. If I could only pick one, I would go AR, just because of the parts and accessories for it. if you can afford both the ACR is a great rifle as well. The ACR is only going to get better with AGE, probably a nice diet to shed a few lbs off it as well. Hope this helps.
With all that being said, I picked up an ACR and love it. The Ergo's are great to include the charging handle. It is heavier but its not like your lugging around a 15lb gun. The spare parts or lack there of sucks, but I have AR's if I really needed a SHTF type scenario and the ACR failed. More than likely I would have failed long before it did. The ACR is just the next evolution in combat rifles. It is only going to get better. In a few more years you should see parts etc for it. Hell the AR has been around for 30+ years. If I could only pick one, I would go AR, just because of the parts and accessories for it. if you can afford both the ACR is a great rifle as well. The ACR is only going to get better with AGE, probably a nice diet to shed a few lbs off it as well. Hope this helps.
4/12/2011 10:59:23 PM
Thank you rescueswimmer for your speedy reply. I have held several ar15 and have liked most of them but have yet to even see and ACR in person. Obviously I wi before I make a final decision but while I can't purchase both at the same time I can aquire the parts needed to build an AR to my specs but with ACR I can't. Im leaning towards the ACR and building an AR. May I ask what optic you use, if any?
Oh and have you had any feed issues, jams, or failures to fire? How's the accuracy compared to you AR15?
Oh and have you had any feed issues, jams, or failures to fire? How's the accuracy compared to you AR15?
4/12/2011 11:21:50 PM
No issues, with the ACR. Accuracy is on Par with any other AR platform. I run a red dot on it. I had a vortex PST 1-4x in a larue mount but it put me over the 10.5lb mark. Did not like that so with the red dot i'm back around the 9lb mark. If you have the coin. Pick up the ACR and you can always build up an nice AR 5-900.00 Thats what I did. Just remember the ACR is shooting 5.56 like an AR. its not some magic gun. If your thinking its a magic gun you are going to be disappointed. I changed out the brake on it to the pws556 and shoots much flatter like the SCAR.
RS
RS
4/13/2011 12:24:48 AM
By no means do I think it's a magic gun. I just want a reliable gun with exceptional ergonomics and the ACR gets extra points because it resembles the XM8
. I want a good rifle point blank and period. I see no downside to the ACR after reading your post.
. I want a good rifle point blank and period. I see no downside to the ACR after reading your post.4/13/2011 11:57:05 AM
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4/13/2011 8:19:00 PM
I have two Noveske AR-15's.... one I built, one I bought and a Stag AR15 that I built. I also have an ACR in the Masada config.
I prefer to shoot the ACR over the AR15's in general. Mainly b/c it's cleaner and it won't gas the hell out of me suppressed.
I think the ergos are far superior to the AR15, but the AR15's are certainly lighter. The Stag in particular is a super lightweight
hunting build... it's REALLY light.
Once I've completely wrung out the ACR (more that 1000 rnds), it will be my go to gun (unless it starts having issues), and
I won't be buying anymore AR15's. I run the ACR with a Trijicon TR-24G... it's DA BOMB, basically an all around bulletproof SHTF
rifle.
I'd get an ACR if I could have only one. The stocks are better than AR15 stocks, and barrel options are coming down the
pike soon. If you want an upgraded trigger, that's easily do-able. I replaced the ACR's trigger with a CMMG NM 2-stage and it's
fantastic.
Good luck bro!
-ZA
I prefer to shoot the ACR over the AR15's in general. Mainly b/c it's cleaner and it won't gas the hell out of me suppressed.
I think the ergos are far superior to the AR15, but the AR15's are certainly lighter. The Stag in particular is a super lightweight
hunting build... it's REALLY light.
Once I've completely wrung out the ACR (more that 1000 rnds), it will be my go to gun (unless it starts having issues), and
I won't be buying anymore AR15's. I run the ACR with a Trijicon TR-24G... it's DA BOMB, basically an all around bulletproof SHTF
rifle.
I'd get an ACR if I could have only one. The stocks are better than AR15 stocks, and barrel options are coming down the
pike soon. If you want an upgraded trigger, that's easily do-able. I replaced the ACR's trigger with a CMMG NM 2-stage and it's
fantastic.
Good luck bro!
-ZA
