You wont take my C&R?

Ordered a Garand and was told you wouldn't ship to me. I have a C&R to save money.

Now I have to drive (gas prices suck) to a gun shop and pay a transfer fee. Really nice of you.

I thought the point of a C&R was to save money? With gas being $3.99.9/gal right now...

Not all Garands are C&R rated, there were about 60K+ made after 1956 that are NOT C&R guns.

just sayin'....

Originally Posted By osprey21: Not all Garands are C&R rated, there were about 60K+ made after 1956 that are NOT C&R guns. just sayin'....

That could be it, but nothing on their website about it.


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We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl .

Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl .

a C&R is a FFL

Originally Posted By anjan9: Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl . a C&R is a FFL

That's what i always thought, so long as the firearm in C&R eligible, it is sendable to a C&R FFL, or did I miss something important along the way?

Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl .

I agree that its not listed as a C&R, but is it?

If it is then legally you can ship it to me. C&R is an 03 FFL.

hmmm. Subscribe for outcome, if any.

Originally Posted By anjan9: Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl . a C&R is a FFL

+1

Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We do not list the item as a C&R gun in the item description on anywhere on the site but we do clearly list that ALL firearms must ship to a ffl , We are sorry that we can not accommodate your desire but for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl .

Wow I was gonna buy an AK from you (I know that's not C&R), but your statement "for legality reasons we must ship to a ffl" and an C&R, which I have, IS an 03 FFL - says it right on the blasted thing - is total nonsense.

It's a made up excuse not to accept a C&R.

Could you be specific about the legal reasons you won't ship a C&R weapon to a legally licensed FFL 03 license holder?

I am really very eager to hear the reasons.

Originally Posted By osprey21: Not all Garands are C&R rated, there were about 60K+ made after 1956 that are NOT C&R guns. just sayin'....

That would be 1958, its 50+ years.

Ok - maybe I jumped the "gun"

I'll wait for the outcome before I order/don't order that AK.

If they refuse his C&R, I refuse to do business with them.

We will not ship the rifle to a C&R , the M1 Garands we carry vary in the years of build and we are not going through each rifle to determine the exact year for each sale.

Originally Posted By osprey21: Not all Garands are C&R rated, there were about 60K+ made after 1956 that are NOT C&R guns. just sayin'....

No. All USGI M1s are C&R rifles. The list was amended to include the rifles produced in '57 a few years ago.

www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/0301to0505update.htm

-Mark

tag for future purchases, or lack thereof.

Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We will not ship the rifle to a C&R , the M1 Garands we carry vary in the years of build and we are not going through each rifle to determine the exact year for each sale.

So this point is moot? ALL M1's are C&R?

Originally Posted By fortydelta: Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We will not ship the rifle to a C&R , the M1 Garands we carry vary in the years of build and we are not going through each rifle to determine the exact year for each sale. So this point is moot? ALL M1's are C&R?

All USGI M1's are C&R.

Av.

Originally Posted By fortydelta: Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We will not ship the rifle to a C&R , the M1 Garands we carry vary in the years of build and we are not going through each rifle to determine the exact year for each sale. So this point is moot? ALL M1's are C&R?

Correct.

ETA: USGI. Thanks Avalon01

Atlantic is a private business who can set their own policies and guidelines for doing business. Also, I've bought some firearms from them, and have been more than pleased every time.

That being said, all USGI Garands are C&R eligible, and I see no good reason for them not to ship directly to C&R FFL holders. Do the Yugo SKSs they have/had, need to be shipped to a dealer as well, or can they be shipped directly to a C&R holder? There is no gray area with the Yugo SKSs being C&R eligible. I think this is more of a company policy, and not a very good one.

Originally Posted By fishngrits: Atlantic is a private business who can set their own policies and guidelines for doing business. Also, I've bought some firearms from them, and have been more than pleased every time. That being said, all USGI Garands are C&R eligible, and I see no good reason for them not to ship directly to C&R FFL holders. Do the Yugo SKSs they have/had, need to be shipped to a dealer as well, or can they be shipped directly to a C&R holder? There is no gray area with the Yugo SKSs being C&R eligible. I think this is more of a company policy, and not a very good one.

I have purchased from them before too. They sell nice stuff and if they dont feel comfy with sending to a C&R holder its their choice. Now it would have been better for them to state they just aren't comfortable sending to C&Rs, but they mentioned legal reasons.

All the rules are hard to follow and just maybe they are worried since the rifle has been re-built and re-barreled its not C&R anymore.

Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE: Originally Posted By fishngrits: Atlantic is a private business who can set their own policies and guidelines for doing business. Also, I've bought some firearms from them, and have been more than pleased every time. That being said, all USGI Garands are C&R eligible, and I see no good reason for them not to ship directly to C&R FFL holders. Do the Yugo SKSs they have/had, need to be shipped to a dealer as well, or can they be shipped directly to a C&R holder? There is no gray area with the Yugo SKSs being C&R eligible. I think this is more of a company policy, and not a very good one. I have purchased from them before too. They sell nice stuff and if they dont feel comfy with sending to a C&R holder its their choice. Now it would have been better for them to state they just aren't comfortable sending to C&Rs, but they mentioned legal reasons. All the rules are hard to follow and just maybe they are worried since the rifle has been re-built and re-barreled its not C&R anymore.

Did you read the part of my post you didn't highlight? I agree with you.

Originally Posted By fishngrits: Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE: Originally Posted By fishngrits: Atlantic is a private business who can set their own policies and guidelines for doing business. Also, I've bought some firearms from them, and have been more than pleased every time. That being said, all USGI Garands are C&R eligible, and I see no good reason for them not to ship directly to C&R FFL holders. Do the Yugo SKSs they have/had, need to be shipped to a dealer as well, or can they be shipped directly to a C&R holder? There is no gray area with the Yugo SKSs being C&R eligible. I think this is more of a company policy, and not a very good one. I have purchased from them before too. They sell nice stuff and if they dont feel comfy with sending to a C&R holder its their choice. Now it would have been better for them to state they just aren't comfortable sending to C&Rs, but they mentioned legal reasons. All the rules are hard to follow and just maybe they are worried since the rifle has been re-built and re-barreled its not C&R anymore. Did you read the part of my post you didn't highlight? I agree with you.

Yea I read it all. My order with them is still in, but depending on how this goes will determine if I ever order from them again.

Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE: Originally Posted By fishngrits: Atlantic is a private business who can set their own policies and guidelines for doing business. Also, I've bought some firearms from them, and have been more than pleased every time. That being said, all USGI Garands are C&R eligible, and I see no good reason for them not to ship directly to C&R FFL holders. Do the Yugo SKSs they have/had, need to be shipped to a dealer as well, or can they be shipped directly to a C&R holder? There is no gray area with the Yugo SKSs being C&R eligible. I think this is more of a company policy, and not a very good one. I have purchased from them before too. They sell nice stuff and if they dont feel comfy with sending to a C&R holder its their choice. Now it would have been better for them to state they just aren't comfortable sending to C&Rs, but they mentioned legal reasons. All the rules are hard to follow and just maybe they are worried since the rifle has been re-built and re-barreled its not C&R anymore.

That would be my guess....

Apparently TT-33's that had the safety added to comply with import regulations are not C&R eligible any more either....

Last I looked the tt-33's were put back up as c&r approved.

Originally Posted By brdvictim: Last I looked the tt-33's were put back up as c&r approved.

Me too. I know SOG is selling them; however the flier they send out has Galil mags that are not available as well as subsonic .22 ammo and Yugo SKSs.

What happens if you have a C&R that is removed from the C&R status?

Waiting for outcome on C&R situation with OP and Atlantic; I may as well try and learn something.

I guess we have an answer from Atlantic - I wouldn't buy a $10 bill from them for $8.95.

Pretty much sums up the way I feel too.

They did ship my rifle to the FFL and its a very nice rifle, but I wont order from them again. What a shame as they usually have some nice stuff.

Originally Posted By Maryland_Shooter: I guess we have an answer from Atlantic - I wouldn't buy a $10 bill from them for $8.95.

Sounds like good advise to me. Atlantic will not get another $1 from me. Thats completely asinine that they will not anothers FFL and ship to it, even though that the FFL is valid.

If they are going to discriminate against legal C&R transfers you can add me to the list of ex customers of Atlantic!

Originally Posted By Trlsmn: If they are going to discriminate against legal C&R transfers you can add me to the list of ex customers of Atlantic!

Yep, I just passed the info along to all my friends

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