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 approximate ETA on 6.5 inch 22lr uppers
ARin  [Member]
7/20/2011 6:56:52 PM
Are we talking months or a year? If it's a few months, I can wait....If its a year, Ill buy a longer barrel and have a shop cut it for me.

Thanks

shadowcop  [Team Member]
7/20/2011 7:11:15 PM
I would like to know also. The one I have has run 100%.
Dave N
JBowles  [Life Member]
7/20/2011 8:57:25 PM
opps wrong thread.
castiel  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 9:31:19 AM
They said 1-2 weeks a couple months ago, and they said 1-2 weeks last week. So who knows
shadowcop  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 3:04:37 PM
I agree.
jerz_subbie  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 4:27:38 PM
tag

I've got my can on order and just need a .22 SBR upper
tenex  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 9:11:56 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
They said 1-2 weeks a couple months ago, and they said 1-2 weeks last week. So who knows


This. I'm ready to buy a dedicated .22 upper for my SBR lower and I've been waiting on CMMG based on the "one to two weeks" estimate, but this is ridiculous. What's the issue? Cut the barrels and thread em already.
castiel  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 1:57:49 PM
Still waiting impatiently patiently.
squirrelslayer1  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 2:42:37 PM
Not to piss on this tread, but why 6.5"? I had a 7" that consistently failed to keep standard velocity/bulk ammo subsonic. I switched to a 5.5" and it has made all of the difference. Is 6.5" the magic number?
shadowcop  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 2:45:37 PM
I'm sure it has to do with the 6.5 clearing the hand guard. I have a 5.5" Clint Beyer barrel that will keep high velocity sub sonic MOST of the time. However, if I put a suppressor on it, it seems to boost velocity enough to be sometimes sub sonic.
Dave N.
squirrelslayer1  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 3:04:47 PM

Originally Posted By shadowcop:
I'm sure it has to do with the 6.5 clearing the hand guard. I have a 5.5" Clint Beyer barrel that will keep high velocity sub sonic MOST of the time. However, if I put a suppressor on it, it seems to boost velocity enough to be sometimes sub sonic.
Dave N.

Didn't think of that. I bet you are right. I will admit, that my 5.5" will sometimes shoot supersonic with a suppressor. Dang inconsistent federal bulk!
castiel  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 8:40:23 PM
I'm just interested in a super short .22 barrel for a pistol build. The CMMG 6.5" is the only factory barrel I have found without resorting to having to pay for a barrel and pay someone else to cut it and thread it for me.
CMMGinc  [Industry Partner]
8/2/2011 10:05:03 AM
Hopefully they should be up on the website today, we have 50 or 60 stock.
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/2/2011 11:34:53 AM
On 5-6" barrels using a 7 or 9" hand guard, I have used the 5.5" CAR type flash hider to get the blast out of the hand guards. Also, a Spikes CAR ET fake suppressor will work. I use those when not using the real can.
Dave N
castiel  [Team Member]
8/2/2011 7:37:30 PM
Originally Posted By CMMGinc:
Hopefully they should be up on the website today, we have 50 or 60 stock.


Awesome!

I keep hitting refresh waiting for them to pop up so I can order one.
CenterMass0  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 5:51:53 PM
Still nothing showing on the website, unless they are already gone
castiel  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 5:56:55 PM
I don't think they've been put up yet
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 7:20:17 PM
castiel  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 7:34:47 PM
My F5 key is going to break soon!
jerz_subbie  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 7:53:54 PM
I just want to see in what configurations they're being offered. I won't be ordering until I get the stamp back for my SS Sparrow. If they're not offered in the configuration I need, I'll just build my own.
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 8:31:49 PM
Ok guys, I just got off the phone with John from CMMG. Could be on the site tomorrow so long as the barrels are ok'd.
Dave N
CenterMass0  [Team Member]
8/4/2011 2:37:49 PM
Originally Posted By CMMGinc:
Hopefully they should be up on the website today, we have 50 or 60 stock.


All's quiet on the website...any update?
castiel  [Team Member]
8/4/2011 7:44:22 PM
Bought a new lower today. Just missing a 6.5" 22 barrel, handguard, and LPK!
CMMG  [Industry Partner]
8/4/2011 9:00:04 PM
Almost there, our webguy should have it done. They are in stock. I didn't get the memo they had arrived. Doh!

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castiel  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 12:41:46 PM
Originally Posted By CMMG:
Almost there, our webguy should have it done. They are in stock. I didn't get the memo they had arrived. Doh!

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I just realized this thread name has "uppers" in the title. We are talking about just the 6.5" stripped barrels right? I have an upper I just need the barrel to put on it.

Also, how do I take the chamber adapter off my conversion kit and put the collar adapter on in place? It looks like it just sort of pops off but I don't want to break anything or damage the rails. It is a stainless kit if that matters.
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 1:04:04 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By CMMG:
Almost there, our webguy should have it done. They are in stock. I didn't get the memo they had arrived. Doh!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


I just realized this thread name has "uppers" in the title. We are talking about just the 6.5" stripped barrels right? I have an upper I just need the barrel to put on it.

Also, how do I take the chamber adapter off my conversion kit and put the collar adapter on in place? It looks like it just sort of pops off but I don't want to break anything or damage the rails. It is a stainless kit if that matters.


Gently pull the rail clear on one side and roll the adapter down. It will pop off. Just be careful not to bend the rail. The stainless is stronger than the black bolt/rail so it doesn't bend as easily.
Install is the reverse.
I would assume barrels will be available by themselves but don't know at the start up.
Dave N
tenex  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 3:57:59 PM
Originally Posted By CMMGinc:
Hopefully they should be up on the website today, we have 50 or 60 stock.


Three days later and still not showing on the website.

Customer Service 101 lesson for CMMG: always under promise and over deliver.

You're business model seems to be the opposite.
castiel  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 4:13:18 PM
THEY'RE UP!


ORDERING!



http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/category/CMMG-.22-LR-barrels-107

All I need is the $99 barrel w/adapter and the $39 stainless dedicated collar w/detent to use with my stainless conversion kit, right?


Well, I tried. But the website won't take my Visa number (I've double and triple checked it)

Order placed!
CenterMass0  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 7:48:04 PM
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?
HRSGRUNNER  [Member]
8/5/2011 8:17:08 PM
Please IM or Email me when the complete 6.5" uppers are for sale.


...and if you could offer a four or six or ten pack of your Gen .22 mags, that'd be great too....



P.S. I love the the 16" dedicated upper but the flash suppressor was jealous and did not want to be swapped for the Spector.


shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 8:52:38 PM
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.

shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 8:53:22 PM
Originally Posted By HRSGRUNNER:
Please IM or Email me when the complete 6.5" uppers are for sale.


...and if you could offer a four or six or ten pack of your Gen .22 mags, that'd be great too....



P.S. I love the the 16" dedicated upper but the flash suppressor was jealous and did not want to be swapped for the Spector.




It will come off. Use a torch and heat it.
CenterMass0  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 9:44:21 PM
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



The description says "•For Use with CMMG .22LR Conversion Kit", which is why I wanted to confirm.
rv10flyer  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 9:48:16 PM
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



Can you buy the bolt for the dedicated upper? I didn't see it on the website, just the conversions.
castiel  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 9:57:43 PM
Originally Posted By rv10flyer:
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



Can you buy the bolt for the dedicated upper? I didn't see it on the website, just the conversions.


The conversion in this barrel basically turns it into a dedicated upper. I'm not sure I understand your question. You replace the chamber adapter on the conversion with the dedicated collar that locks into place with the adapter that comes on the barrel.
CenterMass0  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 10:00:34 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By rv10flyer:
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



Can you buy the bolt for the dedicated upper? I didn't see it on the website, just the conversions.


The conversion in this barrel basically turns it into a dedicated upper. I'm not sure I understand your question. You replace the chamber adapter on the conversion with the dedicated collar that locks into place with the adapter that comes on the barrel.



So if you have a dedicated bolt from a CMMG dedicated upper, you can use that with this barrel?
castiel  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 10:03:32 PM
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By rv10flyer:
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



Can you buy the bolt for the dedicated upper? I didn't see it on the website, just the conversions.


The conversion in this barrel basically turns it into a dedicated upper. I'm not sure I understand your question. You replace the chamber adapter on the conversion with the dedicated collar that locks into place with the adapter that comes on the barrel.



So if you have a dedicated bolt from a CMMG dedicated upper, you can use that with this barrel?


From what I understand, yes. But someone who knows for sure will confirm or deny this.
rv10flyer  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 10:52:39 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By rv10flyer:
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Is the barrel for dedicated bolts or their conversion kits?

Dedicated 1/16 twist.



Can you buy the bolt for the dedicated upper? I didn't see it on the website, just the conversions.


The conversion in this barrel basically turns it into a dedicated upper. I'm not sure I understand your question. You replace the chamber adapter on the conversion with the dedicated collar that locks into place with the adapter that comes on the barrel.


OK, I didn't noticed that the barrel came with the dedicated collar. Since I don't have a CMMG .22 bolt, it sounds like I can buy the Evolution conversion and ditch the chamber adapter. Thanks!
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/5/2011 10:56:42 PM
If you already have a dedicated bolt with collar, all you need is the barrel. If you have a conversion bolt, you can get the barrel and collar, replace the chamber adapter with the collar.
Dave N
telsonman  [Member]
8/6/2011 10:30:28 AM
I was hoping there would be some complete uppers for sale...
castiel  [Team Member]
8/6/2011 12:03:22 PM
Originally Posted By telsonman:
I was hoping there would be some complete uppers for sale...


Grab an $89 Spike's Upper, one of these barrels, and whatever handguard you like, and build one yourself. Don't have to worry about a gas port for a .22 so it simplifies things a bit.
ARin  [Member]
8/7/2011 2:48:57 AM
ordered.

thanks.
alemonkey  [Team Member]
8/7/2011 3:18:54 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By telsonman:
I was hoping there would be some complete uppers for sale...


Grab an $89 Spike's Upper, one of these barrels, and whatever handguard you like, and build one yourself. Don't have to worry about a gas port for a .22 so it simplifies things a bit.


Ok, I bought the barrel but I'm a little confused on what other proprietary parts are required. Obviously I need the dedicated .22 bolt, but does the barrel use a standard AR barrel nut? And I'm really confused about this collar thing. I see the barrel comes with a chamber adapter that I assume works in conjunction with the .22 bolt, but I don't understand what the collar does.

castiel  [Team Member]
8/7/2011 3:46:36 PM
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By telsonman:
I was hoping there would be some complete uppers for sale...


Grab an $89 Spike's Upper, one of these barrels, and whatever handguard you like, and build one yourself. Don't have to worry about a gas port for a .22 so it simplifies things a bit.


Ok, I bought the barrel but I'm a little confused on what other proprietary parts are required. Obviously I need the dedicated .22 bolt, but does the barrel use a standard AR barrel nut? And I'm really confused about this collar thing. I see the barrel comes with a chamber adapter that I assume works in conjunction with the .22 bolt, but I don't understand what the collar does.


If you have the conversion kit it comes with a chamber adapter attached to the front. This part must be replaced with a dedicated collar to feed the bullets into the .22 barrel.

The 16" .22 barrels come with the collar already but it looks like you have to order it separate from the 6.5" barrel.

shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/7/2011 3:55:07 PM
The 6.5" barrels also comes with the collar.
The collar replaces the chamber adapter. It snaps onto the barrel.
Your barrel nut depends on what hand guard you will use. Everything about the upper is standard AR except the barrel is .22 lr and the BCG is for a .22.
Dave N
castiel  [Team Member]
8/7/2011 4:00:48 PM
Originally Posted By shadowcop:
The 6.5" barrels also comes with the collar.
The collar replaces the chamber adapter. It snaps onto the barrel.
Your barrel nut depends on what hand guard you will use. Everything about the upper is standard AR except the barrel is .22 lr and the BCG is for a .22.
Dave N


Are you sure the 6.5" comes with the collar? The description doesn't say it does, and it doesn't include the option to upgrade to a stainless collar like the 16" does.
alemonkey  [Team Member]
8/7/2011 10:47:27 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
If you have the conversion kit it comes with a chamber adapter attached to the front. This part must be replaced with a dedicated collar to feed the bullets into the .22 barrel.

The 16" .22 barrels come with the collar already but it looks like you have to order it separate from the 6.5" barrel.



Ok, I don't have the conversion kit already, I'm starting from scratch. So if the barrel does come with the collar all I have to buy (other than normal AR parts) is the .22 bolt. Is that correct?
castiel  [Team Member]
8/8/2011 12:06:51 AM
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Originally Posted By castiel:
If you have the conversion kit it comes with a chamber adapter attached to the front. This part must be replaced with a dedicated collar to feed the bullets into the .22 barrel.

The 16" .22 barrels come with the collar already but it looks like you have to order it separate from the 6.5" barrel.



Ok, I don't have the conversion kit already, I'm starting from scratch. So if the barrel does come with the collar all I have to buy (other than normal AR parts) is the .22 bolt. Is that correct?


I think this comes with everything you need except an upper and handguard. But the description and picture are very misleading (same goes for everything they added Friday) so I would call or email them tomorrow and find out for sure.
shadowcop  [Team Member]
8/8/2011 7:01:18 AM
Pretty clear it does. You would be best to order the barrel/bolt combo and get the stainless up grade.
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/item/Dedicated-.22-Barrel-and-Stainless-Steel-Bolt-Assembly-1523
Ask to replace the 16" with the 6.5"

They put this up in a hurry so call the order in

•6.5" .22LR Barrel With Adapter
•1:16 Twist
•WASP Treated
•For Use with CMMG .22LR Conversion Kit





Part Number:LB-GP22-6503
ARin  [Member]
8/8/2011 6:19:53 PM
email from CMMG

Thank you for your order with CMMG, Inc. Your barrel is going in to production for you today. Please allow 2-3 weeks for your order to ship from our facility. You will receive tracking information form UPS when it ships.

Any order status request can be emailed to sales@cmmginc.com

In regards to your comment you left on your order. Currently we do not offer the forward assist adapters separately. That is a business decision made by the owners. Currently we are only offering them in the conversion kits.,


Seriously? I though you said there were 60 ready to go? And why cant I get a forward assist adapter?




ARin  [Member]
8/8/2011 6:34:12 PM
Originally Posted By ARin:
email from CMMG

Thank you for your order with CMMG, Inc. Your barrel is going in to production for you today. Please allow 2-3 weeks for your order to ship from our facility. You will receive tracking information form UPS when it ships.

Any order status request can be emailed to sales@cmmginc.com

In regards to your comment you left on your order. Currently we do not offer the forward assist adapters separately. That is a business decision made by the owners. Currently we are only offering them in the conversion kits.,


Seriously? I though you said there were 60 ready to go? And why cant I get a forward assist adapter?






nevermind. Just got off the phone with Kayleigh at CMMG. The email is a form email that usually refers to complete uppers and the lead time for assembly. And we also got the forward assist adapter thing squared away. She misunderstood that i wanted the adapter to be an UPGRADE to my order, and not a stand alone part. She also said that she would get the web guys to add the upgrade options to the 6.5 inch bbl pages.

First time ive talked to them on the phone. Nice folks it seems.