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mikear  [Member]
10/16/2011 10:10:36 PM
Video

Taken in Oklahoma.
thedehoganator  [Team Member]
10/16/2011 10:24:08 PM
God Blesses America.
ATACORION  [Team Member]
10/17/2011 4:07:16 AM
Wow, but I thought this was gong to be a link to the people of walmart.com or some shit like that.
BladedRonin  [Member]
10/17/2011 8:22:36 AM
Damn!!
SkyPup  [Member]
10/17/2011 9:43:16 AM
Whoa, with a crossbow no less....
1IV  [Member]
10/17/2011 10:22:59 AM
When is the church BBQ?
bcauz3y  [Team Member]
10/17/2011 10:30:04 AM
he's a pussy.

I'd have killed it with a leatherman.
AR-15kid  [Member]
10/17/2011 10:51:03 AM
pretty cool artical, video takes to long to down load, Tip me Hat...
IndianaGeologist  [Member]
10/17/2011 10:57:28 AM
Originally Posted By thedehoganator:
God Blesses America.


TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/17/2011 11:09:46 AM
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
he's a pussy.

I'd have killed it with a leatherman.


Pocketful of sugar cubes would have been a good lure.

Domestic hog, not feral.

TRG
mikear  [Member]
10/17/2011 8:59:42 PM
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.
NDWoods  [Member]
10/17/2011 9:45:55 PM
Question: Can domestic hogs get tusks like that? Why or why not?

I always think turned loose domestic when I see one like that but wonder about the tusks.
krpind  [Moderator]
10/17/2011 11:36:45 PM
Originally Posted By NDWoods:
Question: Can domestic hogs get tusks like that? Why or why not?

I always think turned loose domestic when I see one like that but wonder about the tusks.


Yeah those tusks have nothing to do with feral or farmers pig. Most large pig farms cut that tooth off at birth. Uncut they grow constantly and are sharpened by rubbing against the top teeth. The ones that get really long are usually the ones that have jaws that don't line up to keep them rubbed down or curl sharply keeping it from rubbing on the top teeth.

And that is very obviously an escaped farmers pig.
babirl  [Life Member]
10/18/2011 12:06:15 AM
Originally Posted By mikear:
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.


That's what I was thinking.

Even if domestic running wild doesn't it only take about 1-Gen to go feral provided he could successfully fend off competition/breed?

Interesting and sadly only a matter of time until at least parts E-CO are overrun with those damn things.

B2

Don't know OK laws, but it's certainly legal to have a sidearm during both bow and BP season out here... Seems crazy not to, legal or not in hog, coyote, bear, cougar/mountain lion country.
odontia32m  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 12:57:39 AM
Originally Posted By babirl:
Originally Posted By mikear:
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.


That's what I was thinking.

Even if domestic running wild doesn't it only take about 1-Gen to go feral provided he could successfully fend off competition/breed?

Interesting and sadly only a matter of time until at least parts E-CO are overrun with those damn things.

B2

Don't know OK laws, but it's certainly legal to have a sidearm during both bow and BP season out here... Seems crazy not to, legal or not in hog, coyote, bear, cougar/mountain lion country.


It takes only a few days for an escaped hog to go feral. They are bears without claws. Mean MFrs

TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 10:42:44 AM
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By babirl:
Originally Posted By mikear:
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.


That's what I was thinking.

Even if domestic running wild doesn't it only take about 1-Gen to go feral provided he could successfully fend off competition/breed?

Interesting and sadly only a matter of time until at least parts E-CO are overrun with those damn things.

B2

Don't know OK laws, but it's certainly legal to have a sidearm during both bow and BP season out here... Seems crazy not to, legal or not in hog, coyote, bear, cougar/mountain lion country.


It takes only a few days for an escaped hog to go feral. They are bears without claws. Mean MFrs



The terms 'feral' and 'wild hog' are misused by most hunters. Genetics are still genetics. A domestic swine is always a domestic. It will never be a true 'feral' hog, other than in the fact that it has been released in to the wild. However, its offspring may become a hybrid that begins to exhibit traits of local feral populations.

You can cut the tails off puppies for 10 generations and still not breed tailless dogs. You can also release a Hampshire hog in to the wild, trap it 10 years later, and see no genetic change in the animal. You may see environmental changes based upon forage and other factors, but that hog is still 100% Hampshire in all regards.

While he/she may exhibit wild behavior and become un-domesticated (fear of humans, learn natural foods to eat, etc) it does not change the fact that it is a genetically different hog, and NOT a 'feral' in any other way.

True ferals are descendants of completely different genetic lines and exhibit specific genetic traits.

http://icwdm.org/publications/pdf/feral%20pig/txferalhogs.pdf

That .PDF does a great job of clearing up the confusion in nomenclature.

TRG
SkyPup  [Member]
10/18/2011 12:30:35 PM
A hog is a hog.

I do not own any hogs, so when a hog is on my property, he is a dead hog both genetically and figuratively....
bcauz3y  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 1:27:17 PM

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By babirl:
Originally Posted By mikear:
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.


That's what I was thinking.

Even if domestic running wild doesn't it only take about 1-Gen to go feral provided he could successfully fend off competition/breed?

Interesting and sadly only a matter of time until at least parts E-CO are overrun with those damn things.

B2

Don't know OK laws, but it's certainly legal to have a sidearm during both bow and BP season out here... Seems crazy not to, legal or not in hog, coyote, bear, cougar/mountain lion country.


It takes only a few days for an escaped hog to go feral. They are bears without claws. Mean MFrs



The terms 'feral' and 'wild hog' are misused by most hunters. Genetics are still genetics. A domestic swine is always a domestic. It will never be a true 'feral' hog, other than in the fact that it has been released in to the wild. However, its offspring may become a hybrid that begins to exhibit traits of local feral populations.

You can cut the tails off puppies for 10 generations and still not breed tailless dogs. You can also release a Hampshire hog in to the wild, trap it 10 years later, and see no genetic change in the animal. You may see environmental changes based upon forage and other factors, but that hog is still 100% Hampshire in all regards.

While he/she may exhibit wild behavior and become un-domesticated (fear of humans, learn natural foods to eat, etc) it does not change the fact that it is a genetically different hog, and NOT a 'feral' in any other way.

True ferals are descendants of completely different genetic lines and exhibit specific genetic traits.

http://icwdm.org/publications/pdf/feral%20pig/txferalhogs.pdf

That .PDF does a great job of clearing up the confusion in nomenclature.

TRG

Yep. Good post.

You can visually tell the difference between a feral hog and a domestic pig around these parts. They don't even look like the same animal.

That's why I offered to kill that particular pig with a pocket knife. I damn sure wouldn't try it with a feral.

ETA:



vs.


TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 1:34:24 PM
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:

While he/she may exhibit wild behavior and become un-domesticated (fear of humans, learn natural foods to eat, etc) it does not change the fact that it is a genetically different hog, and NOT a 'feral' in any other way.

True ferals are descendants of completely different genetic lines and exhibit specific genetic traits.

http://icwdm.org/publications/pdf/feral%20pig/txferalhogs.pdf

That .PDF does a great job of clearing up the confusion in nomenclature.

TRG

Yep. Good post.

You can visually tell the difference between a feral hog and a domestic pig around these parts. They don't even look like the same animal.

That's why I offered to kill that particular pig with a pocket knife. I damn sure wouldn't try it with a feral.

ETA:

http://primetexasranches.com/huntinghog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/hunting-hogs-trapping-hogs-01.jpg

vs.

http://www.feral.org.au/wp-content/gallery/kangaroo-island-feral-pig/KI_feral_pig.jpg


I've only been scared, once, by a feral hog. I've killed lots of them. With everything from a deer rifle from a deer stand to stalking them with a 9mm carbine and catching them in bed, catching them with dogs, to hand-removing them from traps.

I've never seen a feral hog that was 'mean'. Every time that I have encountered a hog, it un-assed the area as fast as possible.

The one that scared me was a javelina (not actually a feral, I know).

I had hit its buddy in the back with a 5.56. The wounded javelina was dragging itself through thick, dense, cover. I was wearing a black sweatshirt and crawled in after it on my belly.

I could not get a clear shot through the brush, even at 25 yds and less.

The other javelinas were still in the brush. I began making mouth grunts to try and stop the wounded one and possibly have him turn toward me.

The other javelinas were drawn to my grunts. They wanted a fight.

TRG
TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 1:35:11 PM
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By babirl:
Originally Posted By mikear:
Sounds like he hopped right out of his tree stand after he shot it. Crazy bastard.


That's what I was thinking.

Even if domestic running wild doesn't it only take about 1-Gen to go feral provided he could successfully fend off competition/breed?

Interesting and sadly only a matter of time until at least parts E-CO are overrun with those damn things.

B2

Don't know OK laws, but it's certainly legal to have a sidearm during both bow and BP season out here... Seems crazy not to, legal or not in hog, coyote, bear, cougar/mountain lion country.


It takes only a few days for an escaped hog to go feral. They are bears without claws. Mean MFrs



The terms 'feral' and 'wild hog' are misused by most hunters. Genetics are still genetics. A domestic swine is always a domestic. It will never be a true 'feral' hog, other than in the fact that it has been released in to the wild. However, its offspring may become a hybrid that begins to exhibit traits of local feral populations.

You can cut the tails off puppies for 10 generations and still not breed tailless dogs. You can also release a Hampshire hog in to the wild, trap it 10 years later, and see no genetic change in the animal. You may see environmental changes based upon forage and other factors, but that hog is still 100% Hampshire in all regards.

While he/she may exhibit wild behavior and become un-domesticated (fear of humans, learn natural foods to eat, etc) it does not change the fact that it is a genetically different hog, and NOT a 'feral' in any other way.

True ferals are descendants of completely different genetic lines and exhibit specific genetic traits.

http://icwdm.org/publications/pdf/feral%20pig/txferalhogs.pdf

That .PDF does a great job of clearing up the confusion in nomenclature.

TRG

Yep. Good post.

You can visually tell the difference between a feral hog and a domestic pig around these parts. They don't even look like the same animal.

That's why I offered to kill that particular pig with a pocket knife. I damn sure wouldn't try it with a feral.

ETA:

http://primetexasranches.com/huntinghog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/hunting-hogs-trapping-hogs-01.jpg

vs.

http://www.feral.org.au/wp-content/gallery/kangaroo-island-feral-pig/KI_feral_pig.jpg


Second is a hybrid.

TRG
bcauz3y  [Team Member]
10/18/2011 1:46:24 PM

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:

The other javelinas were drawn to my grunts. They wanted a fight.

TRG



I'd have leaked a little.
VaFish  [Member]
10/18/2011 6:35:37 PM
The word feral just means an animal or plant has gone from being domesticated to being wild.

Any hog running out on its own, eating natural foods and not relying on man is a feral hog.


I think people are confusing feral pig with wild boar. The wild boar is a different breed of animal, but they can mate successfully with domestic pigs. Most of what people call feral pigs are cross breeds of domestic pigs and wild boar. There probably are not any more true wild boar in the us anymore.
TNVC  [Industry Partner]
10/18/2011 11:06:48 PM
Did like the "Hogzilla" comment though.

I want to know what that critter had been eatin'!
SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 7:44:11 AM
Originally Posted By NDWoods:
Question: Can domestic hogs get tusks like that? Why or why not?

I always think turned loose domestic when I see one like that but wonder about the tusks.


I shot this 425 lb feral Yorkshire in my backyard and he had a super nice set of tusks on him, the upper busted off when I shot him. You should have seen the holes this dude rooted out in my wife's garden!





Brownie55  [Member]
10/19/2011 9:37:15 AM
Originally Posted By TNVC:

I want to know what that critter had been eatin'!


Everything
TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 10:12:12 AM
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
Originally Posted By NDWoods:
Question: Can domestic hogs get tusks like that? Why or why not?

I always think turned loose domestic when I see one like that but wonder about the tusks.


I shot this 425 lb feral Yorkshire in my backyard and he had a super nice set of tusks on him, the upper busted off when I shot him. You should have seen the holes this dude rooted out in my wife's garden!

http://www.phossil.com/thom/TC/Monster%20Hog/TC%20Hog%201.jpg

http://www.phossil.com/thom/TC/Monster%20Hog/TC%20Hog%206.jpg



You do have the best wild hog population in this country. When you first posted, I thought you were scamming us.

Now, I am just jealous of what you get to pull out of your woods year round. You have $350-500.00 commercial porkers walking around free-range.

You are a lucky bastard indeed.

TRG
SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 12:42:56 PM
Well, I have a large audience to feed. At our regional road race events I generally feed upwards of 125-150 people at a time at our BBQs and they keep clamoring for more!!!

There is a deer lease on the 4,000 acres adjacent to our 2,000 and the deer hunters over there want me covering their property too since they lose all their deer plots and feeders to this hogs....not to mention all the browse the deer and turkeys are losing to these feral swine. With corn being about $10 for 50 pounds now, feeding wild hogs with it is NOT in anyone's best interests...

Just check out this game cam pic earlier this summer right in my friggin' backyard with 25 hogs in one photo, and I DO NOT raise hogs on my property....:



I shot two of them and ate them just last week, everyone loved them, fed about 125 folks!






Brownie55  [Member]
10/19/2011 12:54:32 PM
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
I DO NOT raise hogs on my property....:


I'd have to disagree. LOL
SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 1:06:36 PM
LOL....at least something good comes of it.

Here is me leading a National Road Race two weeks ago at 110 mph down the straight (I have the orange helmet on) around our 2.2 mile long road race track after I had PORKED OUT on our succulent southern BBQ!!!!




Everyone in this race of about 45 karts was running HOG WILD, thanks to me!!
reelserious  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 1:45:22 PM
Awesome story.


How hot was that news lady.
easy610  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 2:24:31 PM

Originally Posted By reelserious:
Awesome story.


How hot was that news lady.


Pretty damned hawt!

So, being from an area that doesn't YET have wild hogs/pigs. What are the dangers to the lone hiker out and about with a hog at 400+lbs near-by? Do these simply run from humans?
SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 3:04:03 PM
Originally Posted By easy610:

Originally Posted By reelserious:
Awesome story.


How hot was that news lady.


Pretty damned hawt!

So, being from an area that doesn't YET have wild hogs/pigs. What are the dangers to the lone hiker out and about with a hog at 400+lbs near-by? Do these simply run from humans?


NO - you could be disemboweled in a hearbeat.

SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 3:07:35 PM
Death By Wild Boar


http://www.phossil.com/thom/4th%20July%20Hog/Wild%20Boar%20Attacks/Death%20By%20Wild%20Boar.pdf


Wild Boar Attack:

http://www.phossil.com/thom/4th%20July%20Hog/Wild%20Boar%20Attacks/Wild%20Boar%20Attack%20II.pdf

Another Wild Boar Attack:

http://www.phossil.com/thom/4th%20July%20Hog/Wild%20Boar%20Attacks/Wild%20Boar%20Attack%20III.pdf
TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 3:11:08 PM
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
Originally Posted By easy610:

Originally Posted By reelserious:
Awesome story.


How hot was that news lady.


Pretty damned hawt!

So, being from an area that doesn't YET have wild hogs/pigs. What are the dangers to the lone hiker out and about with a hog at 400+lbs near-by? Do these simply run from humans?


NO - you could be disemboweled in a hearbeat.




I have never, not once, seen a boar charge at me, or any other hunter unless wounded, or cornered.

Unless you local population has become acclimated to humans (like any other wild animal in constant contact) then they will run away.

If you do get 'attacked' the injuries will be to your legs and extremities. Never even heard of any local hunters getting disemboweled.

TRG

TheRedGoat  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 3:12:40 PM


When I visit INDIA, then I'll worry about it.



TRG
bcauz3y  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 3:15:30 PM


these are the real killers.

Almost every animal on the planet has killed someone, somehow, but to say that they are seriously dangerous is disingenuous.


easy610  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 4:48:45 PM
I guess they are in rural Michigan but I've never seen any...other than on TV shows and arfcom....
SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 5:14:09 PM
Our local rural Sheriff Deputy was trying to round some up and his horse was disemboweled and had to be put down.

I've been charged twice, one boar and one sow. The boar was wounded, the sow heard her piglet scream.

Much safer in a tree than on the ground if you wound one....
Ponyboy  [Team Member]
10/19/2011 5:26:54 PM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
Originally Posted By easy610:

Originally Posted By reelserious:
Awesome story.


How hot was that news lady.


Pretty damned hawt!

So, being from an area that doesn't YET have wild hogs/pigs. What are the dangers to the lone hiker out and about with a hog at 400+lbs near-by? Do these simply run from humans?


NO - you could be disemboweled in a hearbeat.




I have never, not once, seen a boar charge at me, or any other hunter unless wounded, or cornered.

Unless you local population has become acclimated to humans (like any other wild animal in constant contact) then they will run away.

If you do get 'attacked' the injuries will be to your legs and extremities. Never even heard of any local hunters getting disemboweled.

TRG




We cornered up a little boar one time along another property that was hog fenced and he charged while I stood there and took pictures of him. He got within about 10 yards and decided that we weren't very scared of him and he veered off and ran past us.

We also got bluff charged by a sow once after we shot three of her piglets and were loading them up on a 4-wheeler.

We've had some boars in the trap that I'm pretty sure would have tore us a new ass if they could have got to us but we've gotten pretty good at our trap building.

SkyPup  [Member]
10/19/2011 5:34:54 PM
When I worked for the State Veterinary Infectious Disease Laboratory, each year we'd have 2-3 farmers disemboweled, primarily in their sow pens.

Also, serial killer Ted Bundy put junior high school student whom he had kidnapped and abused, Kimberely Leach, in a hog pen at the State Agriculture Inspection Station on US90 crossing over the Suwannee River in my home county in 1976 and she was devoured by the hogs.