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 .44 mag. rifle for Whitetail
kyron4  [Member]
11/23/2011 10:53:35 PM EST
Anyone have any experience with hunting with a .44 mag rifle ? What's the maximun range (realistic ) ? What's a good load to put down deer ? My state doesn't allow high powered rifles , so no need to sugest useing another caliber. -Thanks
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behindenemylines  [Life Member]
11/24/2011 12:20:53 AM EST
100 to 175 yards tops.
KaseyK  [Team Member]
11/24/2011 2:19:06 AM EST
240 jhp or softpoint does well. 150 yards would be my personal limit.
DanR  [Team Member]
11/24/2011 3:36:21 AM EST
IN pistol caliber rifle hunter here!

I'm very confident in my .44mag Puma 92 out to 100 yards, which is a fair piece down in my southern Indiana woods especially with iron sights.

I'd second the 150 max
VaFish  [Member]
11/24/2011 4:10:07 AM EST
I've killed tons of deer with a 14" barreled TC Contender. That's pretty much the same as a 16" barreled carbine.

Any 240 gr JHP or JSP will kill deer just fine.

But you really need to know your distances and your trajectory. Sighted in at 100 yards you'll be about 7" low at 150 and 20" low at 200.
Urimaginaryfrnd  [Team Member]
11/24/2011 4:23:16 AM EST
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With a 44 you dont need to worry so much about expansion it already is a big slug what you need to watch is the velocity and energy numbers the higher they are the better.

link scope If you dial in correction and work with it 300 yds is not out of the question because I have killed deer with a musket that far away and the 44 is quite similar in velocity and trajectory. The trick is getting the bullet on target with such a radical trajectory and you need a scope that will dial in correction to compensate for the trajectory. Run a balistic chart Link balistics calculator
MagnusM4  [Team Member]
11/24/2011 6:06:06 AM EST
I've been using a Ruger 77/44 with Leupold UltimateSlam 2-7x33 scope this season and it works very well. Light, handy and hits pretty hard. I've taken two deer with it so far this season, using Hornady LeverEvolution ammo, which I do not recommend after seeing their performance. With this scope, I can accurately shoot out to 200 yards.

Shot this one at about 65 yards broadside, he ran about 70 yards and died. Found the bullet jacket under the skin on the opposite side.


This one took 4 shots to the shoulder area before he finally went down. First shot was at about 80 yards, last shot was about 30 yards.
kyron4  [Member]
11/25/2011 12:02:50 AM EST
I got mine for my my daughter to use, it's a 22" barrel Rossi single shot with a Nikon 2-7x32 scope. She has shot 3 deer in the last 3 years with it with the longest shot being 80 yds. Useing "white box" Win. 240 JSP. Anyone try the Federal Fusion 240 gr. on deer ?
NY_drew  [Member]
11/25/2011 4:34:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By kyron4:
Anyone have any experience with hunting with a .44 mag rifle ? What's the maximun range (realistic ) ? What's a good load to put down deer ? My state doesn't allow high powered rifles , so no need to sugest useing another caliber. -Thanks


Buddy of mine killed a nice 11 point this past weekend with a .357 henry lever gun at 100 yards so I am sure that 44 will get out there to 150 or so and still have stopping power
1IV  [Member]
11/25/2011 4:39:42 AM EST
I can ring the 8 inch gong at 200. Would I try to hit a deer that far away? Hell no!

Deer hunting is about being merciful. Know where the bullet will land.

150 yards. But I forest hunt. My shots are often 35-60 yards.
VenomousDuck  [Team Member]
11/25/2011 5:43:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By kyron4:
I got mine for my my daughter to use, it's a 22" barrel Rossi single shot with a Nikon 2-7x32 scope. She has shot 3 deer in the last 3 years with it with the longest shot being 80 yds. Useing "white box" Win. 240 JSP. Anyone try the Federal Fusion 240 gr. on deer ?


I hunt with a 77/44 as well. I haven't tried the Federal Fusion but, I have used their American Eagle brand with the 240gr JHP. It chronied very similar to WWB, grouped very well (every bit as good as WWB), and when fired at targets 100 yards away had virtually the same POI as the WWB that I had originally zeroed the rifle with. CDNN had a great sale on the Federal Ameircan Eagle @ $27 per box of 50 which is about $10 cheaper per box than what I can get WWB for. I actually prefer the hollow point over the soft point as I've done water tests on the WWB JSP and it really does not open that much at all given that it was fired into the water barrel from about 10 feet away. I took a button buck a week or so ago with the Federal AE and was very happy with the performance, the shot was around 100 yards and the JHP gave full penetration completely destroying one lung and punching a large hole in the other. Regarding the Hornady FTX's I've witnessed a friend water test some in a 357 and the recovered rounds showed virtually no expansion (they may as well have been FMJ's), one round still retained the red plastic tip and aside from the rifling marks looked unscathed, it did not give me much confidence in the 44 mag variety either for expansion.

Eat_Beef  [Member]
11/25/2011 7:01:24 AM EST
I like the Remington 180gr JSPs (flat points). I haven't chronoed them, but they feel hotter than most other loads. They hit like a frieght train. That said, 240jhps and even cast lead tend to do very bad things to small furry critters.

I'm in the 150 yard max camp, although it's going to depend on your gun/scope, and more importantly, the nut behind the stock. 100 yards is as far as I feel confident myself with my rifle and iron sights. If you really shot it a lot, and were really good at ranging, you could push out further, but they really drop like a rock out past 100 yards, and a small error in ranging or holdover will easily lead to a miss, or worse, a broken leg.
har1340  [Member]
11/27/2011 5:43:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By kyron4:
Anyone have any experience with hunting with a .44 mag rifle ? What's the maximun range (realistic ) ? What's a good load to put down deer ? My state doesn't allow high powered rifles , so no need to sugest useing another caliber. -Thanks


Well here in Connecticut the powers to be, started to allow handgun hunting on private land, has to be 10 acres, .357 cal. or larger and have a 5.75" in bbl or larger, sooo I decided to get out my .44 mag and zero it in. Also, purchased a bandoleer holtster. I would love to take a whitetail with that caliber in a handgun.

Sorry, no rifle here! Good luck

In the attached photo is my factory S&W .44mag with a &" bbl and Leopold scope. I have already taken a 275lb. boar with it!


Sorry could not rotate!
navvet89  [Team Member]
11/30/2011 11:58:20 AM EST
I killed my first deer with a ruger 44 carbine, my brother still uses a 44 lever action, Id say 100-150 yards and pick good ammo and it will get the job done.
Warhawk  [Team Member]
11/30/2011 1:06:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By navvet89:
I killed my first deer with a ruger 44 carbine, my brother still uses a 44 lever action, Id say 100-150 yards and pick good ammo and it will get the job done.


I killed my first deer with a Ruger .44 carbine too. Since then I've shot several wold hogs with .44 Mag revolvers and lever guns.

ScottyPotty  [Team Member]
12/1/2011 2:18:03 PM EST
what kind of velocity do 44 mags get out of rifles?
pmc1  [Member]
12/2/2011 4:24:55 AM EST
I limit mine to 1000 fps and around 50 yards.




Pmc
ScottyPotty  [Team Member]
12/2/2011 4:53:12 AM EST
pretty cool! Were not allowed to use suppressors to hunt in Ohio. But then were not allowed to use rifles to hunt deer.

What kind of powder do you use for 1000fps?
pmc1  [Member]
12/2/2011 6:26:47 AM EST
I am using Trailboss.

Pmc
ScottyPotty  [Team Member]
12/2/2011 7:59:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By pmc1:
I am using Trailboss.

Pmc


thanks, I'm looking to make sub sonic .44 mag ammo to shoot coyotes in the neighborhood without the noise of a high power rifle. Do you happen to have any load data on your rounds?
pmc1  [Member]
12/2/2011 9:24:49 AM EST
I run 9.8 gr of powder and a 240 HP. I have some buddies that use other powders. Just load it like a 44 spl and you should be close. With Subsonic's and trailboss I have found it best to load down rounds to be sure you don't end up with a squib.

Good Luck.

Pmc
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