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 how to conceal breath odor?
Jacobdw  [Team Member]
10/9/2011 9:36:35 PM
Ive had 2 deer this year walk in and immediately look in my direction... I am VERY careful with my gear, and Im sure it doesnt smell. This is also in an urban environment... so Im thinking its my breath... ?

what can I do to hide my stinky breath
_DR  [Team Member]
10/9/2011 9:39:15 PM
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.
Wyzardd  [Team Member]
10/9/2011 10:06:49 PM
My granddad said to brush with baking soda. No idea if that's true or not, but at least the minty fresh scent would be gone.
Casper507  [Member]
10/9/2011 10:17:45 PM
Originally Posted By Wyzardd:
My granddad said to brush with baking soda. No idea if that's true or not, but at least the minty fresh scent would be gone.


Whole body dip may just work............
Neutralizes everything.
pappy177  [Team Member]
10/9/2011 10:37:38 PM
drink vodka , has no oder
Gamma762  [Team Member]
10/9/2011 11:17:56 PM
Oxyfresh mouthwash.
zutmeloda2003  [Team Member]
10/10/2011 10:50:50 AM
you can take a bite out of a cow patty on the way to the stand.

I wear a scentlok face cover that i can put over my mouth. also so a company that had throw away masks, they looked like the white ones you get at menards for insulating, except these were camo.
effinNewGuy  [Member]
10/10/2011 11:02:28 AM
Halitosis Brotherhood of America.

At least you'll feel some camaraderie.
parlay100  [Team Member]
10/10/2011 11:04:07 AM
Dont Speak.
cviss  [Member]
10/10/2011 12:45:50 PM
Originally Posted By parlay100:
Dont Speak.


or breath
countrygunner  [Team Member]
10/10/2011 4:33:51 PM
gargle with hydrogen peroxide. It is used in the making of most scent away sprays anyway along with baking soda and distilled water
M4Madness  [Site Staff]
10/10/2011 6:02:33 PM
Breathe through your nose.
adrock1  [Team Member]
10/10/2011 8:31:09 PM
Originally Posted By _DR:
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.


Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1
Towely  [Team Member]
10/10/2011 11:27:51 PM
Originally Posted By M4Madness:
Breathe through your nose.


Still won't cut the scent entirely but it's much less than blowing air out your suck.
krpind  [Moderator]
10/10/2011 11:41:37 PM
There is nothing you can do to eliminate it. I doubt even inside a full body suit like a medical technician wears when dealing with ebola or something like that would keep them from smelling you. Think about drug dogs and how they find drugs wrapped in plastic and hidden in pallets of coffee. You scent is stronger than cocaine.


I can't recall what the number of scents deer can discern at one time. It is a lot. Incomprehensible to a human..You can't judge what you can smell and apply it to what they smell. It is too different.

You are pumping out a lot of scent molecules the whole time you are in the woods, whether it is your breath or from your skin or touching stuff.. The best you can do is try to not leave much as you walk in and use the wind to your advantage to cut down on the chance of them getting a whiff.

Its not your bad breath, it is the human scent in your breath. The scent of a predator, that scares them.
Payne  [Member]
10/11/2011 12:18:45 PM
Don't eat meat for breakfast and eat an apple on the way to your stand.
former_usmc  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 1:07:04 PM
majority of these things will work but if you start by being upwind of the path you believe the animal will be walking, with the wind in your face to start, you give yourself a much better chance of not being detected.
Jacobdw  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 1:22:58 PM
wish I could do this.... my tree is the ONLY stand suitable tree in the AO
krpind  [Moderator]
10/11/2011 1:27:35 PM
Originally Posted By Jacobdw:
wish I could do this.... my tree is the ONLY stand suitable tree in the AO


The wind is more important than being in a tree.

Build a ground blind that and build it in such a way that there are several things at various distances between you and the target. The more you break up the depth perception the better you will be able to conceal yourself and any movements.

Approach your stand with the wind in your face. Hunt this particular location when you have a favorable wind.


Good luck.
Gamma762  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 2:28:30 PM
Originally Posted By adrock1:
Originally Posted By _DR:
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.


Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1

Deer can see into the near-IR range that humans can't. There might be a high pitched noise from capacitors charging for the flash also.
eclark53520  [Member]
10/11/2011 3:06:53 PM
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By adrock1:
Originally Posted By _DR:
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.


Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1

Deer can see into the near-IR range that humans can't. There might be a high pitched noise from capacitors charging for the flash also.


+1, it's near impossible to take a picture without some sort of noise.
M4Madness  [Site Staff]
10/11/2011 4:27:05 PM
Originally Posted By former_usmc:
...if you start by being upwind of the path you believe the animal will be walking...


I know you meant "downwind".

If you stay downwind of deer, you can use skunk scent as a cologne.

_DR  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 4:50:39 PM
Originally Posted By adrock1:

Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1


But these were in broad daylight, flash turned off. Solid state cam no moving parts at all. The camera is set to shoots bursts of three captures.


_DR  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 4:51:46 PM
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By adrock1:
Originally Posted By _DR:
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.


Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1

Deer can see into the near-IR range that humans can't. There might be a high pitched noise from capacitors charging for the flash also.


Nope, flash off, no IR capability, no moving parts, broad daylight. See pics.
_DR  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 4:53:33 PM
Originally Posted By eclark53520:
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By adrock1:
Originally Posted By _DR:
Wear a medical TB rated face mask. Only problem is they are white. You could also chew on pine sap local to the area.

But deer are amazing. I had a trail cam that was completely silent solid state, yet once my cam started taking digital pics, they would turn and look directly at the cam by the second frame of a three frame burst, for no apparent reason. It's almost like they could sense the energy in the air or something.


Even IR cameras have a pretty obvious visible red flash in the dark and deer can easily see it. Camera avoidance is fairly well documented with deer. They see the flash and while not badly spooked, they often learn to avoid the camera and not set it off. Some of the new black flash cameras solve that problem by using IR light entirely in the non visible spectrum so nothing, even deer, can see them. Also your standard IR camera is not completely solid state. If you look closely, you'll notice most have a small filter that drops in front of the lens for night pics with the IR flash. Often times there is a very subtle sound associated with the filter clicking into place. Your deer aren't magically capable of detecting electronic fields in the air. They either see the flash, hear the filter click, or both.

Adrock1

Deer can see into the near-IR range that humans can't. There might be a high pitched noise from capacitors charging for the flash also.


+1, it's near impossible to take a picture without some sort of noise.


No moving parts - no noise. No flash, no IR, no nothing. Just a deer turning his head when the solid state cam triggers. I listened, even tried to amplify with a microphone, the cam make zero audible noise when triggered. It is a mystery to me how they know.
DPeacher  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 8:42:30 PM
The noise is probably above 20kHz. You can't hear it, but the deer can. Think of it like a dog whistle.
_DR  [Team Member]
10/11/2011 11:18:12 PM
Originally Posted By DPeacher:
The noise is probably above 20kHz. You can't hear it, but the deer can. Think of it like a dog whistle.


Amazingly sensitive creatures. Makes it harder to get them on my grill!