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Men who are emasculated
6/6/2010 1:17:52 PM
So what I am getting at it seems like there are a lot of men out there who have allowed themselves to be emasculated. I feel that this is an important topic in terms of survival and am curious what books there are out there about this that kinda tie the two topics together.
Reason why I ask is because I have several friends that are in marriages that they wont admit that they are completely emasculated. In a SHTF situation if is its small famlily scale or big national scale. I wonder how the two of them would fare. I would feel this could contribute to the end of a marriage.
Reason why I ask is because I have several friends that are in marriages that they wont admit that they are completely emasculated. In a SHTF situation if is its small famlily scale or big national scale. I wonder how the two of them would fare. I would feel this could contribute to the end of a marriage.
6/6/2010 3:51:30 PM
They will be just another of the countless dead.
Sorry.
Sorry.6/6/2010 4:22:40 PM
Why care? Unless............they have food stored. 
6/6/2010 5:14:23 PM
Humans are incredibly adaptable. While they may be currently emasculated, a SHTF event (assuming they survive the initial event) will either harden them or cause them to be victims. The quick studies will survive.
6/8/2010 10:59:47 PM
Sometimes............ somewhere.................some people........... need a good smack in the mouth. If you are not equals in your marriage......... get a divorce.
6/8/2010 11:28:35 PM
Reminds me of the guy on that History Channel show a couple of months ago. 15 minutes in I was pleading with the guy to smack the piss out of his wife (I already beyond screaming and had entered the begging stage).
6/11/2010 9:05:44 AM
Originally Posted By Spiffums:
. If you are not equals in your marriage......... get a divorce.
. If you are not equals in your marriage......... get a divorce.
Exactly.
6/12/2010 12:19:38 AM
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
6/12/2010 7:28:32 AM
Originally Posted By kaiserworks:
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
I've seen this happen a few times at the shop I work at. We had one guy buy a new pistol only to return in a few hours to sell it b/c wifey said she was scared of guns.
6/12/2010 4:26:36 PM
If you don't already have a gun collection before the relationship started and if the significant other is a hoplophobe (irrational fear of guns) I would still buy a gun but secure it in a safe in an accessible location in the house. Its not even a "gun issue" its a safety issue, like having a fire extinguisher in the house. I would not flaunt it but it would not get rid of it any more than I would get rid of my %^&*. But hey, thats just me.
6/12/2010 9:14:46 PM
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
6/12/2010 9:39:43 PM
Originally Posted By brotherzoo:
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
People are different and there is no reason why every couple has to share the same exact interests. Part of marriage is figuring out how to deal with those differences.
6/12/2010 11:03:14 PM
You did ask for books. " Wild at Heart" by John Eldredge. Excellent book on this subject.
6/13/2010 11:21:55 AM
Originally Posted By ilbob:
People are different and there is no reason why every couple has to share the same exact interests. Part of marriage is figuring out how to deal with those differences.
Originally Posted By brotherzoo:
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
People are different and there is no reason why every couple has to share the same exact interests. Part of marriage is figuring out how to deal with those differences.
Of course they don't need the same exact interests. To find that in what I said is quite a stretch. The OP was talking about people who are diametrically opposed on some pretty key values and opinions. That situation is not likely destined to make for a very harmonious sharing of similarities and differences.
6/17/2010 10:59:53 AM
I must be one of the real lucky ones, we argue often, but its about small stuff and its forgotten about as quick as it occurs, we never let anything fester.
Not only does my wife approve of my guns, it was her idea that I took the largest room in the finished basement for my gun room while she took the smallest for her sewing room. Never complains when I buy or trade guns and insists that she has a BOB in her car at all times and moves it to my truck without being reminded, when we travel out of town together. A few times when money got tight and I mentioned selling one or two out of my collection, I was hit with a resounding "No, we will figure something else out". The only thing she really gets pissed at was when I first started casting bullets and did it on her stove in the kitchen. I now have a dedicated bench in the garage to do my casting from, with a pot that she purchased for me.
She hunts and shots, her personal handgun being a Loaded SA 1911 with a Para Ordiance LDA CCW as a back up both in .45 and hunts with a Marlin 45/70 lever gun.
She also does fairly well with a 50 cal BP Trade rifle and throws a heck of a knife and tomahawk
Think maybe I will keep this one for awhile.
Not only does my wife approve of my guns, it was her idea that I took the largest room in the finished basement for my gun room while she took the smallest for her sewing room. Never complains when I buy or trade guns and insists that she has a BOB in her car at all times and moves it to my truck without being reminded, when we travel out of town together. A few times when money got tight and I mentioned selling one or two out of my collection, I was hit with a resounding "No, we will figure something else out". The only thing she really gets pissed at was when I first started casting bullets and did it on her stove in the kitchen. I now have a dedicated bench in the garage to do my casting from, with a pot that she purchased for me.
She hunts and shots, her personal handgun being a Loaded SA 1911 with a Para Ordiance LDA CCW as a back up both in .45 and hunts with a Marlin 45/70 lever gun.
She also does fairly well with a 50 cal BP Trade rifle and throws a heck of a knife and tomahawk
Think maybe I will keep this one for awhile.
6/24/2010 11:41:41 AM
Originally Posted By RidgeRunner01:
So what I am getting at it seems like there are a lot of men out there who have allowed themselves to be emasculated. I feel that this is an important topic in terms of survival and am curious what books there are out there about this that kinda tie the two topics together.
Reason why I ask is because I have several friends that are in marriages that they wont admit that they are completely emasculated. In a SHTF situation if is its small famlily scale or big national scale. I wonder how the two of them would fare. I would feel this could contribute to the end of a marriage.
So what I am getting at it seems like there are a lot of men out there who have allowed themselves to be emasculated. I feel that this is an important topic in terms of survival and am curious what books there are out there about this that kinda tie the two topics together.
Reason why I ask is because I have several friends that are in marriages that they wont admit that they are completely emasculated. In a SHTF situation if is its small famlily scale or big national scale. I wonder how the two of them would fare. I would feel this could contribute to the end of a marriage.
Honestly, why are you worried about it? On "big national scale SHTF" all the preps in the world just improve your odds some. How they adapt to the new situation will have far greater bearing on their (and their family's) survival than if they "unemasculate" tomorrow by maxing out the Visa on guns, dried beans and toiletpaper over the wife's screeching objections.
If they can't adapt, they'll be fertilizer, just like everyone else who couldn't adapt, preps or not.
7/1/2010 3:33:09 PM
Originally Posted By kaiserworks:
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
My EX-wife tried to pull that with me.
Honestly I'm amazed at some men will do for a warm place to park their pecker.
7/2/2010 7:36:00 AM
i have the answer to your question...but see, i gotta ..hold a sec phone( yeah,, sure i can stop by the store on the way home...your tired, im sooo sorry babe..well ill be home soon, ok. ill remember the extra thins with wings..yip love you to honey...)
Ok where was i ..Oh yeah. See what you got to do is make sure that you understand where your wife is coming from....hold on phone again ( yes, huhuh, im on the way honey it'll be alright im sure...yes i know with wings....icecream...got it..love you..)
Once you do that youll be able to make sure you get your preps and stuff, just last week mine found that case of #10's i got . Remember Haheheh,,i had them shipped with your order to your house.. LOL man, she never knew. Only way she found out was....damn it phone hold on....( yes, i'm at the store now, dog food? yeah i can get that...not a problem.10 lb bag or..Oh the 50lb bag got it......how are you feeling? Oh that bad huh.....sure i can cook dinner to..love you babe.)
well anyway, i went down to check on my BOB, you know the one i keep in that large blue tote, anyway, your not gonna belive this, that can of dinty more leaked somehow....so i had the bag out washing it, and then had to mow the yard and forgot about it. So i had the pack out drying. I came in to her asking when i bought these and where and why, and what they heck was that army backpacking doing dripping on the floor....and why do i worry so much about playing red dawn ....damn it hold on,,phone...(YEAH!, sorry honey, traffics bad i didnt mean to sound pissed. Stop by marthas and pick up the kids,,,sure anything else...oh your in a the bath huh...sounds fun,,ehehhehe..oh you started.....oh ok, not a porblem, listen ill be home really soon and ill have dinner on and afterwards i'll rub your shoulders and give you a foot massage ok....yes i wont forget the dog food...or the kids .......love yo............)
anyway...listen i hope that answers your question i gotta pick up the kids and all so i'll post more later when i get home........
Ok where was i ..Oh yeah. See what you got to do is make sure that you understand where your wife is coming from....hold on phone again ( yes, huhuh, im on the way honey it'll be alright im sure...yes i know with wings....icecream...got it..love you..)
Once you do that youll be able to make sure you get your preps and stuff, just last week mine found that case of #10's i got . Remember Haheheh,,i had them shipped with your order to your house.. LOL man, she never knew. Only way she found out was....damn it phone hold on....( yes, i'm at the store now, dog food? yeah i can get that...not a problem.10 lb bag or..Oh the 50lb bag got it......how are you feeling? Oh that bad huh.....sure i can cook dinner to..love you babe.)
well anyway, i went down to check on my BOB, you know the one i keep in that large blue tote, anyway, your not gonna belive this, that can of dinty more leaked somehow....so i had the bag out washing it, and then had to mow the yard and forgot about it. So i had the pack out drying. I came in to her asking when i bought these and where and why, and what they heck was that army backpacking doing dripping on the floor....and why do i worry so much about playing red dawn ....damn it hold on,,phone...(YEAH!, sorry honey, traffics bad i didnt mean to sound pissed. Stop by marthas and pick up the kids,,,sure anything else...oh your in a the bath huh...sounds fun,,ehehhehe..oh you started
.....oh ok, not a porblem, listen ill be home really soon and ill have dinner on and afterwards i'll rub your shoulders and give you a foot massage ok....yes i wont forget the dog food...or the kids .......love yo............)anyway...listen i hope that answers your question i gotta pick up the kids and all so i'll post more later when i get home........
7/2/2010 8:19:19 AM
Originally Posted By kaiserworks:
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
an old friend from college always wanted to go shooting. his wife had already told him NEVER would he be able to own a gun PERIOD.
we took him shooting one day, when he got home his wife told him if he ever went shooting again she would leave him or some stupid fucking crap.
i haven't spoken to him since. this was like 5 years ago.
7/2/2010 11:48:34 AM
Originally Posted By hellbound:
an old friend from college always wanted to go shooting. his wife had already told him NEVER would he be able to own a gun PERIOD.
we took him shooting one day, when he got home his wife told him if he ever went shooting again she would leave him or some stupid fucking crap.
i haven't spoken to him since. this was like 5 years ago.
Originally Posted By kaiserworks:
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
I'll give you an example of an emasculated male. Years ago I worked in a retail gun shop, ocassionally we would have a male customer come in and sell his guns... reason: his wife, girlfriend ect didn't want guns in the house. I offered that a safe bolted in the garage would keep the guns secure (we sold safes), nope, guns must be gone along with his manhood.
an old friend from college always wanted to go shooting. his wife had already told him NEVER would he be able to own a gun PERIOD.
we took him shooting one day, when he got home his wife told him if he ever went shooting again she would leave him or some stupid fucking crap.
i haven't spoken to him since. this was like 5 years ago.
One has to wonder why that wife is no anti-gun.
7/5/2010 4:58:23 PM
I think that the condition is more wide-spread than one or two or a dozen hen-pecked husbands. For whatever reason, society is trying to emasculate and feminize all our men. Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
7/6/2010 12:08:05 AM
the first night of my first marriage my new brides asks me what would I do if she asked me to get rid of my guns?
I looked her square in the eye and told her my guns will be here longer than her.
I was right!
second wife......a MAJ in the army reserve now in A-stan and will be up for LT Col this year. Guns are nooo problem with her.
I looked her square in the eye and told her my guns will be here longer than her.
I was right!
second wife......a MAJ in the army reserve now in A-stan and will be up for LT Col this year. Guns are nooo problem with her.
7/6/2010 9:57:10 AM
Originally Posted By brotherzoo:
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
I know plenty of women who are voluntarily 'emasculated' in their marriages as well. Just don't marry a woman (or man) that 'disapproves' of your guns, or dogs, or whatever. Chances are, the differences go much deeper. My wife is an excellent shot, and is in tune with prepping, even if not to the extent that I am. I see so many people married to people they don't even really like, and that boggles my mind. if someone is looking to get out of the house to escape their wife (or husband) then they need to escape permanently and marry someone they enjoy spending time with. Interesting tie-in to a 'survival' topic btw...
What is that George Strait song....... I know she loves me, but I don't think she likes me anymore.
7/11/2010 12:24:06 AM
Originally Posted By 2_Gun_Mojo:
I think that the condition is more wide-spread than one or two or a dozen hen-pecked husbands. For whatever reason, society is trying to emasculate and feminize all our men. Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
I think that the condition is more wide-spread than one or two or a dozen hen-pecked husbands. For whatever reason, society is trying to emasculate and feminize all our men. Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
yeah, feminize is the word. emasculate implies that they were manly to begin with.
7/13/2010 6:42:13 AM
7/13/2010 8:50:46 AM
Originally Posted By shooter_gregg:
You did ask for books. " Wild at Heart" by John Eldredge. Excellent book on this subject.
You did ask for books. " Wild at Heart" by John Eldredge. Excellent book on this subject.
That is a good book and worth the read - however realize that it is also another 'all about me' book - a better one is Tender Warrior by Stu Weber - this guy was a Green Beret in Vietnam and he talks about the four jobs a man has - King, Warrior, Mentor, and Friend. However I'd recommend both books as good reading. I think this is why idiotic crap like bungee jumping have made it so big - it is men looking for some sense of conquest to fill a need.
7/18/2010 12:36:43 AM
I get called a hoarder and I get grief for buying stuff "I don't need" and "waiting for the end of the world". It's all good
8/1/2010 1:15:17 AM
Originally Posted By 2_Gun_Mojo:
I think that the condition is more wide-spread than one or two or a dozen hen-pecked husbands. For whatever reason, society is trying to emasculate and feminize all our men. Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
I think that the condition is more wide-spread than one or two or a dozen hen-pecked husbands. For whatever reason, society is trying to emasculate and feminize all our men. Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
The previous poster who referenced "Wild At Heart" hit it right on the head. That book does a great job of pointing out the differences between men and women that should be celebrated, not eliminated. I love my wife, and she likes being cared for and protected. I sure as hell am glad I'm not married to a "dude with boobs." She never would have married a metro-sexual girlie-man. A truly "gender-neutral" world would be a horrible place to live. Just celebrating manliness or womanliness doesn't make one somehow less for being different. People that aren't comfortable in their own skins need to learn to change themselves, not try to bring everybody down to the level they think they're at. Plenty of women who are all woman step right up and bring the A-game when the chips are down. God Bless 'em. But a "man" who won't even try to protect or care for his family is no man in my book.
Your right about it being very wide spread! I think its part of the progressive movement that's trying, and succeeding to a very great extent to change the way our society thinks. They'd like us to be more like France I think. You can see what is being done in any large corporation, they have these Diversity classes. I was sent to diversity training twice and it didn't change me at all, except I think it did piss me off more the second time around! I think it'd be interesting to see someone tackle this topic on a national scale but of course there are bigger fish to fry at the present time!
I too have seen an emasculated male sell his guns at one of our local gun shops and it is a pitiful sight. I tried to offer a just hide somewhere suggestion to him but I could see he was of one mind "his wife's".
8/1/2010 1:38:55 AM
Originally Posted By 2_Gun_Mojo:
Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
Working in law enforcement, I see it all the time. It is the aggressive warrior minded cop who is chastised and told to "tone it down."
Probably because that officer is acting in ways that expose the agency to liability and litigation.
8/3/2010 8:12:56 PM
Decent men and women in uniform not withstanding, there are also plenty of cops who either don't know when to be "aggressive and warrior minded", or else choose to do so when it is neither appropriate, nor dangerous to them by being a jerk to those who don't deserve it and/or won't fight back. That's a different kind of self-imposed emasculation, called being a wannabe gestapo pussy with a badge.
8/22/2010 5:01:41 PM
good thread, I will check out the book you mentioned I found it at the local library.
