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 What type of extention cords are you using for you generators?
Echo2  [Team Member]
1/18/2011 10:51:34 PM
For my 8kw.....I have a 8/4 to hook into the house.....and the rest are a few 100'-0, 10/3s......a few 50'-0, 10/3s.....all with HD sheathing.

I got a couple GFCI quad boxes that can be attached to the 10/3s.

on this site...I've seen a few 12ga and even what looked to be a 14ga.......I've melted a 12 ga on a job before.....so they scare me.........a 10 ga is safe in my eyes.

What are you using?
MidwestJ  [Member]
1/18/2011 10:55:50 PM
Got the quad box wired up to my panel just a couple of weeks ago. I'm using the 10 guage/30 amp "Rigid" brand gen cord from Home Depot.

Makes me feel a TON better and much more relieved should an ice storm strike!

timely thread!
runningman-2001  [Member]
1/18/2011 10:59:39 PM
I don't use extension cords.
P400  [Member]
1/18/2011 11:06:41 PM
Originally Posted By runningman-2001:
I don't use extension cords.


This.

SPBCTS  [Member]
1/18/2011 11:19:51 PM
The one from the transfer switch to the genny is 8/4. It is hard wired on one end and has the twistloc on the other to plug into the genny.
I can't remember where I bought them, but I have a handful of 25 ft.ers that are 10/3 ratholed, I bought several of them for when we were racing and had an RV hooked to the Genny in the trailer, and numerous power tools everywhere in the pit. They have a little light in them at both ends that is great for checking power without running back and forth.
I saved several new-in-bag for preps.
I try not to use anything smaller than them for anything of consequence.
Ops  [Team Member]
1/18/2011 11:24:43 PM
Originally Posted By P400:
Originally Posted By runningman-2001:
I don't use extension cords.


This.



that. ^

Ops
Reorx  [Member]
1/18/2011 11:45:22 PM
I use a 70 foot 10/4 cord to feed my breaker box from my 6,200 running watt gen. I bought a spool, measured and cut the cord, & put the ends (30 amp) on...
CJan_NH  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 12:04:03 AM
All of the pigtails, adapters, and specialized cordsets used on my generators at home and at work were custom made by me. The smaller runs are constructed typically of 10/3 or 10/4 SOOW cable, plus whatever connectors are needed. Years ago I got tired of flimsy, overpriced commercially available cordsets-so I began making my own for half the price (and much higher quality)

At home my transfer switch is hard-wired to the weather tight box outside using 8/4 SOOW cable, and the 480v 3-phase power that feeds my transfer switches at work is either 0 or 2ga solid (I think).

At the office I have several types of adapters on-hand, due to the wide variety of plugs and receptacles in use in the server room. They are needed with the smaller rackmount UPS units and portable tertiary generators:

Echo2  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 6:40:26 AM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
All of the pigtails, adapters, and specialized cordsets used on my generators at home and at work were custom made by me. The smaller runs are constructed typically of 10/3 or 10/4 SOOW cable, plus whatever connectors are needed. Years ago I got tired of flimsy, overpriced commercially available cordsets-so I began making my own for half the price (and much higher quality)

At home my transfer switch is hard-wired to the weather tight box outside using 8/4 SOOW cable, and the 480v 3-phase power that feeds my transfer switches at work is either 0 or 2ga solid (I think).

At the office I have several types of adapters on-hand, due to the wide variety of plugs and receptacles in use in the server room. They are needed with the smaller rackmount UPS units and portable tertiary generators:
http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/cordset2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/pigtails_and_cordsets.jpg


gotta love Hubble....
batmanacw  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 9:53:31 AM
I am going to make a cord to run my water pump. It will be 50 ft with twist locks on both ends. The water pump is on a 20 amp breaker and will be the only thing on the line. Is there any reason I can't run stranded 12/2 for this? It most likely doesn't draw over 15 amps. Its on 12/2 now. The water pump is all that is on that circuit.

I bought a nice Rigid brand 50 ft HD extension cord from Home Depot to get power into my house through a back window I can close down over foam for insulation. I am not worried about this cord melting since its on a generator that can produce13.3 amps and rated for 15 amps. The loads I will be running are small. I don't need to run a circular saw. Just the microwave and some convenience items like the direct TV and such.


Once I am in the house I have two 25 ft extensions to run for the fridge, freezer, and any other items I might want to run.
biere  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 12:35:06 PM
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.


MikeSH  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 10:25:06 PM
Currently I have a 25' 12/3 to run my freezer and a 50' 12/3 to run the oxygen concentrator and 2 lights.

When my 2010 tax refund somes in I'm going to hire an electrician to wire the genny into the panel box.
EXPY37  [Member]
1/20/2011 12:00:34 AM
Extension cords are fine as long as you apply common sense, don't let anyone tell you different.

Make sure the cords are decent quality and are rated for the kind of service you are using them for.

My fav for heavy duty use is a 10 gauge from Harbor Freight. It gets a lot of use hooked to a 2kw Honda or a 6kw light tower diesel.

The HF price has gone up since I bought it tho. I also keep a 50' 10 ga cord in the trailer for times I want to put the Honda some distance away.

Generally though we use lots of 12 ga 25 or 50 footers for normal use.
Variable556  [Team Member]
1/20/2011 12:17:07 AM

30 feet of 10 gauge four strand with 30 amp plugs I installed myself. I bought the components at an electrical supply store.

Generator: Black Max (Honda motor) 7000/8750 run and surge.
KJB  [Member]
1/20/2011 1:02:07 AM
I use 600 Volt 6-4 Type SO Cable. The 600 volt has thicker insulation on both the inner wires and outer jacket than the 300 volt cable.

Edited to add this is for the connection between my Miller Trailblazer 275 and the house.
KJB  [Member]
1/20/2011 1:04:25 AM
I use a variety of regular heavy duty 12g cords on my smaller 120 volt models which is what I would use to run the sump pump or furnace in short term non SHTF outages.
Grove  [Team Member]
1/20/2011 11:02:35 PM
The generators I have use either a 6/4, 10/4, or 12/4 SO cord with 50, 30, and 20 amp twist lock ends. My extension cords are all 10 or 12 ga.

Grove
Country_Boy  [Member]
1/21/2011 3:56:00 AM
If you melted a 12 ga cord with 20 A, something was defective (or the melting wasn't caused by the current). if you had a 12 ga cord carrying more than 20A, someone was negligent in putting on the wrong plugs or over current protection.

There's nothing wrong with extension cords, you just have to use them carefully (trip hazard), safely (max amps) and effectively (distance/gage vs load). Even 100' 16 ga cords are OK for lighting loads.

I generally stick with 12 or 14 ga cords, but I've got some 10/3 cord for longer runs at higher power.

I've also got a number of 6/4, 6/3, 8/4, 8/3 and 10/4 cords for different uses- including temporary wiring into (or out of) breaker panels. welder extension cords, etc. One of the 10/4 cords typically had a twist lock for my generator, but at the price of large SO cords, I reconfigure as needed. Right now the 10/4 cord is wire nutted to a 6-3 cord with a 50 A receptical for my generator. I'll leave it like that until I need one of the cords.
odontia32m  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 7:50:34 AM
Originally Posted By Ops:
Originally Posted By P400:
Originally Posted By runningman-2001:
I don't use extension cords.


This.



that. ^

Ops


10-3 from genset to transfer switch. You can not go wrong using a bigger size.

odontia32m  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 7:53:51 AM
Originally Posted By biere:
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.




HF has heavy extension cords that are UL listed for half the price of Home Depot/Lowes and cheaper than you can make them.
biere  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 12:21:51 PM

Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By biere:
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.




HF has heavy extension cords that are UL listed for half the price of Home Depot/Lowes and cheaper than you can make them.

I will look into it. Thanks
Echo2  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 12:41:19 PM
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Extension cords are fine as long as you apply common sense, don't let anyone tell you different.

Make sure the cords are decent quality and are rated for the kind of service you are using them for.

My fav for heavy duty use is a 10 gauge from Harbor Freight. It gets a lot of use hooked to a 2kw Honda or a 6kw light tower diesel.

The HF price has gone up since I bought it tho. I also keep a 50' 10 ga cord in the trailer for times I want to put the Honda some distance away.

Generally though we use lots of 12 ga 25 or 50 footers for normal use.


Oh yeah....I'll be the first to admit that we were over loading the crap out of it.....But just seeing what that will do made me a bit paranoid about using 12 ga cords.....we were using what we had.....2 cords 12 ga....50 ft.....with a splitter.....running a halo light and 3/4" reamer on a 3/4" electric impact.....you could say it was a bit hot.......it's what the boss told us to do.....then we got to hang out on the clock while he went and bought 2 more cords.....12 ga....with heavier insulation.......It was that point in time I realized that just because you are technically in charge.....doesn't mean you are the smartest on the job.....finally when the project mgr showed up.....we gave a Sit Rep....and multiple....larger cords were supplied.

This was back when dinosaurs roamed the earth....
DUX4LIFE  [Member]
1/21/2011 4:50:04 PM
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By biere:
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.




HF has heavy extension cords that are UL listed for half the price of Home Depot/Lowes and cheaper than you can make them.


Does HF list them on their website or in-store only? I could only find the camper hookup. I am thinking of one of these http://www.lowes.com/pd_68610-16503-UTG143925_5003699__?productId=3203697&Ntt=extension+cord&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl_50%2B100_5003699__s%3FNtt%3Dextension%2Bcord&facetInfo=$50%20-%20$100
Still looking for the best bang for the buck.
odontia32m  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 7:04:00 PM
Originally Posted By DUX4LIFE:
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By biere:
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.




HF has heavy extension cords that are UL listed for half the price of Home Depot/Lowes and cheaper than you can make them.


Does HF list them on their website or in-store only? I could only find the camper hookup. I am thinking of one of these http://www.lowes.com/pd_68610-16503-UTG143925_5003699__?productId=3203697&Ntt=extension+cord&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl_50%2B100_5003699__s%3FNtt%3Dextension%2Bcord&facetInfo=$50%20-%20$100
Still looking for the best bang for the buck.


Your lionk is busted.

HF Cords

reelserious  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 8:22:27 PM
Originally Posted By runningman-2001:
I don't use extension cords.





this
DUX4LIFE  [Member]
1/21/2011 9:03:02 PM
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By DUX4LIFE:
Originally Posted By odontia32m:
Originally Posted By biere:
Crappy extension cords here.

But most of my power needs are tiny and my generators are tiny so it works right now since I don't really have to run much of anything and can move the generator very close to where it needs to be plugged in and just use a short extension cord.

Going to just make myself some this year I guess. Now that I have the time to do it I need to do a bit of reading and make some.

I plan to make a couple short ones and some mid length ones. I don't know that I really have a need for anything over 50ft since the generators I have are easy to move around.

Depends on if I just buy a spool of wire or not.




HF has heavy extension cords that are UL listed for half the price of Home Depot/Lowes and cheaper than you can make them.


Does HF list them on their website or in-store only? I could only find the camper hookup. I am thinking of one of these http://www.lowes.com/pd_68610-16503-UTG143925_5003699__?productId=3203697&Ntt=extension+cord&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl_50%2B100_5003699__s%3FNtt%3Dextension%2Bcord&facetInfo=$50%20-%20$100
Still looking for the best bang for the buck.


Your lionk is busted.

HF Cords



Link works for me?? I found the one in the link at Lowes.

Your HF link goes to the same page I found. I thought they had 30 amp cords with twistlocks on each end. I need it to go from the genny to the inlet box on the house.
CJan_NH  [Team Member]
1/24/2011 10:36:43 AM
In light of the extreme cold weather we've been dealing with up here-if anyone who is somewhat local to New England needs a high quality cordset for their generator, heater etc I'd be happy to help out. I have hundreds of feet of SOOW cable in stock from 8ga to 12ga with three or four conductors. I also have scads of different connectors available from conventional 15A residential up to industrial twistlocks of all types.

Total cost to you would be a large regular coffee from Dunkin' Donuts-assuming you don't need anything too exotic
Feral  [Moderator]
1/24/2011 10:52:22 AM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
<snip>

Total cost to you would be a large regular coffee from Dunkin' Donuts-assuming you don't need anything too exotic


Hell, dude, at least hold out for a creme-filled donut AND a cup of coffee.

In all seriousness, yours is a very generous offer and I hope folks who are in need take you up on it. It might save their lives.
Echo2  [Team Member]
1/24/2011 11:04:00 AM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
In light of the extreme cold weather we've been dealing with up here-if anyone who is somewhat local to New England needs a high quality cordset for their generator, heater etc I'd be happy to help out. I have hundreds of feet of SOOW cable in stock from 8ga to 12ga with three or four conductors. I also have scads of different connectors available from conventional 15A residential up to industrial twistlocks of all types.

Total cost to you would be a large regular coffee from Dunkin' Donuts-assuming you don't need anything too exotic


You Sir....are alright......don't care what anyone says.....
inop  [Team Member]
1/24/2011 1:23:30 PM
4 wire 10ga 600v SO cable 20'
Tight-group  [Member]
1/24/2011 1:47:22 PM
None hard wire here
Maryland_Shooter  [Team Member]
1/24/2011 2:21:55 PM
Originally Posted By P400:
Originally Posted By runningman-2001:
I don't use extension cords.


This.



This again