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 railroad tie cellar/shelter
ced257  [Member]
5/31/2010 8:53:05 AM
I have a friend of mine that came up for a week to work on his houseplace. He brought along a nice little bobcat trackhoe. Anyway, we have free access to it for a few days. I have been wanting to put in a small cellar/ storm shelter.
Money being the object that it always is, I was thinking about building it out of railroad ties. I can get them fairly cheap and I can do it a little at a time.
I figured I would stack them and then put tar paper on the outside to seal the voids and cracks, then do a layer of tar and then maybe another layer of tar paper. Use stone for the floor, since I have a ton of them around. I was thinking about building it 8x12 or so. I can then use the ties for the ceiling as well, and cover that with dirt.
I did some looking around on the net, to get some ideas. The best i can find is using them for retaining walls. I was just wondering if anyone has done this or what your opinion is? Thanks!
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Adjuster  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 9:31:21 AM
Don't forget about proper ventilation.
scuba_ed  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 9:31:48 AM
Probably not the best choice for indoor use. These are typically saturated with creosote preservative making them ideal for outside exposure to the elements. In a closed environment, creosote has been associated with severe neurological disturbances if inhaled in strong concentrations, such as an indoor area.


FlatlinesUp  [Member]
5/31/2010 9:36:51 AM
pretty sure they're not used due to the lethal crap that's pressurized into them and by the time you build a work around to seal it all off etc you might as well have built it out of concrete blocks

also, they are not imperv. to rot. The railroad regularly replaces them around here
stilleto  [Member]
5/31/2010 9:46:30 AM
Go with cinder block. RR ties are not healthy for you.
autumnsong  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 9:56:50 AM
Although I have built lots of stuff with RR ties, I would not use them for the purpose you stated. A bad chemical stink that can't be healthy will be a problem in an enclosed space.
Fuggit  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 10:08:15 AM
Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Probably not the best choice for indoor use. These are typically saturated with creosote preservative making them ideal for outside exposure to the elements. In a closed environment, creosote has been associated with severe neurological disturbances if inhaled in strong concentrations, such as an indoor area.




You could use it as a Mother in Law suite.

qfast817  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 10:27:47 AM
what my dad did when i was 9 was used old rail as support post on the inside and outside. i would do 3 on the inside on each side so u could weld rail on top of it for extra support on the roof.
ced257  [Member]
5/31/2010 10:28:01 AM
That's what i wanted to know! I never really thought about the health factor. Guess I'll scratch that idea and see if I can get some blocks. Thanks guys!
PA22-400  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 10:38:24 AM
My interesting history is gonna come out here. There was a tornado shelter made of a buried retired school bus in the Texas Panhandle.

pseudojd  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 11:40:53 PM
Originally Posted By PA22-400:
My interesting history is gonna come out here. There was a tornado shelter made of a buried retired school bus in the Texas Panhandle.



Ha, 7th grade in Redden Oklahoma. They had the same setup. I bet it's pretty common.
MudBug  [Team Member]
6/1/2010 12:06:16 AM
Originally Posted By PA22-400:
My interesting history is gonna come out here. There was a tornado shelter made of a buried retired school bus in the Texas Panhandle.



Waco?
ced257  [Member]
6/1/2010 5:28:35 AM
Yeah, I think there were 2 or 3 in Waco. I've been to the site of the old Branch Dividian compound. They had it condemed for lead poisoning when I was there. If I'm not mistaken, the land still belongs to them. They have a little building with some history about what happened there and all the names of the poeple that died there.
I have heard of several people burying busses. If I had it my way I'd get a shipping container..........maybe one day.
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