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 Best Ammo For A Henry AR-7 22 LR
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 5:19:26 AM
I purchased a Henry AR-7 and got a brick of Lightening ,22's and the Henry doesn't seem to like them all that much. Now I didn't lube the action before shooting, that may have some effect on it. What I need to ask is if anyone has a Henry what brand ammo have you had the best results with? It was shooting pretty good groups at about 40 feet, I didn't want to try it further then that with the small sight picture.
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GooberPP  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 6:04:10 AM
Sorry, I didn't even know that Henry was making the AR-7. But, this type of rifle should feed and fire gravel picked off the side of the road. Clean and lube and if that doesn't cure it, send it back to them. Alot of guns are not cleaned properly from the factory and that may be the problem. And lightning is pretty close to gravel picked off the side of the road, along with Wildcats, XPert, etc.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 6:41:31 AM
I am going to take it shooting again in 2 weeks, I have some CLP that I will try first. I bought a 15 rd mag for it and got maybe the first 2 rds to feed properly after that they kept jamming. It is a find little rifle to shoot, sure not a tack driver.
osprey21  [Life Member]
10/25/2008 6:56:07 AM
Describe the jam.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 7:53:05 AM
The round would feed almost horizontially and the nose of the bullet would stop part the way into the chamber, basically causing the tip of the bullet to split into a V. The bullet would be deformed enough that I tossed it away. Now I only had this problem with the 15 rd mag, no problems with the stock Henry 8 rd mags.
osprey21  [Life Member]
10/25/2008 8:21:32 AM
Sounds like a feed lip problem to me.

Measure the front and rear gaps on the stock Henry 8rd mag and compare those to the gap on the 15rd mag.
MrClean4Hire  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 8:48:32 AM
I have a charter arms version, 5k + trouble free rds fired.

It prefers cci stingers and mini mags.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 9:41:43 AM

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a charter arms version, 5k + trouble free rds fired.

It prefers cci stingers and mini mags.



I read that the CCI is good to go with these rifles. Will try a few boxes.
Screechjet1  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 10:02:07 AM
Magazine issues can also create feed problems.
TheWind  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 10:09:35 AM
My Charter Arms like mini mags doesn'[t like stingers, I think it goes too fast and forgets to pick up the next round
dalesimpson  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 10:48:15 AM

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a charter arms version, 5k + trouble free rds fired.

It prefers cci stingers and mini mags.


I also have the Charter Arms version and mine will even feed the cheap bulk pack stuff about 99%.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 10:49:45 AM
I just lubed the action with MilSpec, will see how it does when I fire it.
NightSniper  [Member]
10/25/2008 10:54:59 AM
The one I used to have was a Charter Arms one. It would feed any copper jacketed/plated bullets. If it was just a standard lead bullet it was a no go. Also have to keep mine lubed really well. Ended up trading mine for a 10-22 though. Good luck.
ThePatriot556  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 11:14:28 AM

Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
The round would feed almost horizontially and the nose of the bullet would stop part the way into the chamber, basically causing the tip of the bullet to split into a V. The bullet would be deformed enough that I tossed it away. Now I only had this problem with the 15 rd mag, no problems with the stock Henry 8 rd mags.



This is a very common design flaw with the AR7 type rifles. I have worked on at least a half dozen of them with this problem. You need to break the edge of the chamber with a slight bevel, all the way around. I then grind a hint of a feed ramp into the 12 o'clock position of the chamber. Polish everything up after your mods. If you use plated bullets as well, your feeding should be close to 100%.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 11:17:33 AM

Originally Posted By ThePatriot556:

Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
The round would feed almost horizontially and the nose of the bullet would stop part the way into the chamber, basically causing the tip of the bullet to split into a V. The bullet would be deformed enough that I tossed it away. Now I only had this problem with the 15 rd mag, no problems with the stock Henry 8 rd mags.



This is a very common design flaw with the AR7 type rifles. I have worked on at least a half dozen of them with this problem. You need to break the edge of the chamber with a slight bevel, all the way around. I then grind a hint of a feed ramp into the 12 o'clock position of the chamber. Polish everything up after your mods. If you use plated bullets as well, your feeding should be close to 100%.



Will give it a try, I maybe shot 50 rds through it, spent more time shooting my bolt guns.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/25/2008 11:36:42 AM
Has anyone ever used one of those Ramline 25 rd mags with an AR-7?
Arcana71  [Member]
10/26/2008 2:07:14 AM
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a charter arms version, 5k + trouble free rds fired.
It prefers cci stingers and mini mags.
I believe Henry warns against the real HV stuff. There have been reported issues with warping that thin composite barrel, if I recall. I have experience with an Armalite version that eats CCI MiniMags and Federal GameShoks all day. Even then, it very-much prefers the 40gr solids over the 36gr hollowpoints. Of course, I don't know if Henry has any specific ammunition recommendations, mind you.

Originally Posted By ThePatriot556:
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
The round would feed almost horizontially and the nose of the bullet would stop part the way into the chamber, basically causing the tip of the bullet to split into a V. The bullet would be deformed enough that I tossed it away. Now I only had this problem with the 15 rd mag, no problems with the stock Henry 8 rd mags.
This is a very common design flaw with the AR7 type rifles. I have worked on at least a half dozen of them with this problem. You need to break the edge of the chamber with a slight bevel, all the way around. I then grind a hint of a feed ramp into the 12 o'clock position of the chamber. Polish everything up after your mods. If you use plated bullets as well, your feeding should be close to 100%.
When the Armalite did fail to fed, it failed exactly as described above. More often with hollowpoints than solids. Less often with MiniMags and GameShoks than anything of a lesser grade (as in "bulk-pack"). The bevel/polish/chamfer remedy mentioned here seems to be highly successful. Again, though, I'm not certain about how well it would work on that composite barrel Henry uses.

Before taking any drastic measures, though, look at those magazines very carefully. Afterward, take the rifle down and give it a thorough scrubbing. Also, I've read that gripping the rifle by the magazine during fire can change its position in the magwell slightly and worsen the problem. Just something to look into.
Small_Arms_Collector  [Member]
10/26/2008 6:13:15 AM
The last time I had mine out I went through about 300 Rounds of the Federal 525 bulk pack, and didn't have a single hiccup, the accuracy was pretty good to, I didn't measure the groups, I was just testing it out, and blowing off some steam at the time (This was after I found out that I OWED on my taxes, apparently darnell the welfare rat needed gold spinners on his Escalade, and I got to pay for them ), but from what I could tell it was more than accurate enough at 25 Yards for "minute of squirrel" which really as a survival rifle was all it was intended to do. I left with a smile on my face, something about it just put me in a good mood for about 2 days.
BuffLuver  [Team Member]
10/26/2008 8:09:36 AM
I was pleased with the accuracy, I would use it in a survival situation to take down a bunny or squirrell. I may end up gettign a 10/22 for the wife, or keep it for myself since I have owned two before and give her the Henry.
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