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 Light infantry Senior RTO?
xtremesports1975  [Member]
11/22/2011 6:09:25 AM EST
After finishing 11B transition from 13B, my new light infantry unit has only one 11B E-5 slot available, Senior RTO. From what I understand I will be the rifle platoon PL's RTO. Anybody give me any insight on this position in garrison and overseas? Is this more a commo job and less of an infantry role?
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SiVisPacem  [Team Member]
11/22/2011 6:21:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By xtremesports1975:
After finishing 11B transition from 13B, my new light infantry unit has only one 11B E-5 slot available, Senior RTO. From what I understand I will be the rifle platoon PL's RTO. Anybody give me any insight on this position in garrison and overseas? Is this more a commo job and less of an infantry role?


Dude, as both an 11B and a 13F, having spent 8 years taking long walks with the Infantry, I've never seen an 11B2O serving as an RTO to a 2LT. That a job for a PFC or SPC. Afterall, just how many RTO's are there in the platoon that the PL needs a "senior" RTO? In my experience, there was an RTO for the PL and the FO had an RTO (if he wasn't his own RTO).

It sounds to me like they're worried your "transition" training didn't really prepare a gun bunny to be a team leader in an Infantry platoon, telling guys who've been 11B's for 2 or more years what to do. So, they're putting you in a position where the LT and the PSG can keep you busy, train you, allow you to "supervise" any other RTO's, and evaluate you before putting you into a TL spot. Seriously, I find it hard to believe that a light INF unit has enough E-5's to fill every MTOE slot within the Co./BN/BDE.
xtremesports1975  [Member]
11/22/2011 6:31:56 AM EST
They only E-5 slot available was SR RTO, but I am not sure if they will shuffle me around to somewhere else. I could end up somewhere else, but just in case I was wondering what the SR RTO duties were.
mike3000fl  [Member]
11/22/2011 7:01:19 AM EST
A platoon RTO is usually going to be a pfc or spc as stated, in garrison you may end up being the driver for the PL or Plt Sgt, in addition to being the guy in the platoon responsible for commo gear and gps. In the field you do RTO things, like hump the radio.

An e-5 in an RTO spot sounds more like a company position, where you would be responsible for the company's commo gear. Another possibility is that it is really an OPS position for the 1st SGT or Company Commander, filling in forms and doing paperwork. In the field you would run the company TOC.

Deployed... RTO at the platoon level may drive if mounted, or shadow the PL. At the company level, expect to run shifts in the TOC along with other associated tasks the company commander and 1st SGT need.

It's not permanent, try not to make yourself too useful in OPS or as an RTO, otherwise battalion will suck you up there and the process repeats.
Strike6  [Member]
11/22/2011 6:09:28 PM EST
I spent a year as a platoon level RTO. I was a lowly E-3. I did however learn a lot about how a mechanized Infantry platoon operates and was leaps and bounds ahead of my peers. I learned how to write the platoon operations order (My PL could barely read and write) with the help of my PSG. What surprised me most was when the CO would speak directly to me...ignoring the platoon leader....and would have me issue orders directly to the individual dismounted squad leaders. The PSG maintained control of the four Bradleys.

I've never heard of a senior RTO. These guys seem to have a good feel for why your position was created. I do know that I enjoyed being a RTO more than a Dragon Gunner. I really enjoyed being a crew member and eventually becoming a gunner.

After reading my post, I have failed to answer your questions. I am sorry for that.
steve-oh  [Team Member]
11/23/2011 5:56:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Strike6:
I spent a year as a platoon level RTO. I was a lowly E-3. I did however learn a lot about how a mechanized Infantry platoon operates and was leaps and bounds ahead of my peers. I learned how to write the platoon operations order (My PL could barely read and write) with the help of my PSG. What surprised me most was when the CO would speak directly to me...ignoring the platoon leader....and would have me issue orders directly to the individual dismounted squad leaders. The PSG maintained control of the four Bradleys.

I've never heard of a senior RTO. These guys seem to have a good feel for why your position was created. I do know that I enjoyed being a RTO more than a Dragon Gunner. I really enjoyed being a crew member and eventually becoming a gunner.

After reading my post, I have failed to answer your questions. I am sorry for that.


Sounds like you had a pretty shitty PL.

RTO could be an E5 position but I imagine it would not be too favorably viewed on an NCOER.
dyezak  [Member]
11/23/2011 6:21:20 AM EST
In the units I was in the RTO was an E2-E4 slot. The E5 was company level and served functions of securing comsec, driving the CO around, signing off on the equipment PMCS's, training new RTO's as they came in, and manning the CQ when in the field.
scoutfsu99  [Team Member]
11/24/2011 6:10:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:
Originally Posted By xtremesports1975:
After finishing 11B transition from 13B, my new light infantry unit has only one 11B E-5 slot available, Senior RTO. From what I understand I will be the rifle platoon PL's RTO. Anybody give me any insight on this position in garrison and overseas? Is this more a commo job and less of an infantry role?


Dude, as both an 11B and a 13F, having spent 8 years taking long walks with the Infantry, I've never seen an 11B2O serving as an RTO to a 2LT. That a job for a PFC or SPC. Afterall, just how many RTO's are there in the platoon that the PL needs a "senior" RTO? In my experience, there was an RTO for the PL and the FO had an RTO (if he wasn't his own RTO).

It sounds to me like they're worried your "transition" training didn't really prepare a gun bunny to be a team leader in an Infantry platoon, telling guys who've been 11B's for 2 or more years what to do. So, they're putting you in a position where the LT and the PSG can keep you busy, train you, allow you to "supervise" any other RTO's, and evaluate you before putting you into a TL spot. Seriously, I find it hard to believe that a light INF unit has enough E-5's to fill every MTOE slot within the Co./BN/BDE.


This is the answer. They're worried that your 2 weeks of 11B transition training doesn't = Team Leader.
Strike6  [Member]
11/24/2011 6:21:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By steve-oh:
Originally Posted By Strike6:
I spent a year as a platoon level RTO. I was a lowly E-3. I did however learn a lot about how a mechanized Infantry platoon operates and was leaps and bounds ahead of my peers. I learned how to write the platoon operations order (My PL could barely read and write) with the help of my PSG. What surprised me most was when the CO would speak directly to me...ignoring the platoon leader....and would have me issue orders directly to the individual dismounted squad leaders. The PSG maintained control of the four Bradleys.

I've never heard of a senior RTO. These guys seem to have a good feel for why your position was created. I do know that I enjoyed being a RTO more than a Dragon Gunner. I really enjoyed being a crew member and eventually becoming a gunner.

After reading my post, I have failed to answer your questions. I am sorry for that.


Sounds like you had a pretty shitty PL.

RTO could be an E5 position but I imagine it would not be too favorably viewed on an NCOER.


Yep. That LT was pretty rough. I got used to the CO (Black Six) ordering me to do something. I would call back.."Black Six, this is White Six Alpha. White Six Actual wants to speak with you regarding your last transmission." His typical response, "Negative White Six, relay my orders to White Diamond or White One. BLACK SIX OUT!"

He lasted about a year and then moved on to become a General's aide if I'm not mistaken. The next platoon leader was bad ass and was very much respected. I drove his Brad by then, eventually becoming his gunner, and we become good friends. I did almost kill him a couple of times...but that's another story.

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