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 Questions about joining the Army as an officer.
ATACORION  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 12:32:56 AM EST
My freind has a degree in Engineering and her plans for her career just haven't panned out the way she wanted them too. She has seriously been considering looking ito the Army reserves. She is in good physical health, has no medical issues or prior legal issue (maybe the odd traffic ticket) and is very smart and has a great work ethic and attitude.

I am in the Navy, 8 years Active duty and been Reserve for the last 2 years so as far as Army Officer programs go I dont know shit. I can only comment about the Warrnat Officer program (I have applied twice).
Can she, seeing as how she has a degree in engineering choose her job feild (engineering corps)? Or is it like the Navy where unless you are medical you are an open source line officer and go where the Army Needs you?

If she does somehow pick up a commision in the engineering corps how long is her training pipeline before she would be "trained up"?

Is it worth it?

She's a classy lady and I gave her the reality froma sailors perspective of alot of women in the military ( they end up getting fucked by everyone in the unit, knocked up blah blah blah) Though she will be an officer.

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Tim2031  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 4:29:28 AM EST
I'm Active Duty and I have spent time in the Guard but I'm not an expert on the reserves. But as USAR is a federal component, I would imagine she would have to go through federal OCS (unless she obatains a masters and does ROTC while pursuing a masters). OCS is at FT Benning and is 90 days long, this is completed after basic training (no AIT for college op). After OCS, she would have to go to her branch basic course which is about another 3 months. Then she would go to her unit. I don't how USAR officer are assesed into a branch but it maybe geographic based on the distance from a unit. As far as she will be treated, its basically up to her. If she takes crap people will give her crap. She can expect to be hit on by every 1LT and CPT though.
ATACORION  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 5:31:56 AM EST
Thanks man.
POW-MIAneverforget  [Life Member]
10/6/2011 7:02:36 AM EST
If she takes the OCS option, she'll have to do basic and then go to OCS. Rumor on the street is that OCS slots are drying up though as the army (and the military as a whole) starts to downsize and prepare for the budget cuts and coming post war draw down.

ATACORION  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 7:16:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By POW-MIAneverforget:
If she takes the OCS option, she'll have to do basic and then go to OCS. Rumor on the street is that OCS slots are drying up though as the army (and the military as a whole) starts to downsize and prepare for the budget cuts and coming post war draw down.



Figured as much, I told her to get the ball rolling sooner than later
rike  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 9:02:05 AM EST
She should get that slot now.

I know several officers in the US Army (SOUTHCOM) and for non triggerpuller types it's bigtime cush. Travel, relo, and away from home yes, but that's the deal.

ETA: Big Fat Pension
Pegasus6  [Team Member]
10/6/2011 10:34:40 AM EST
What type of engineer is she? I'd bet there is a way to guarantee a slot in the engineers if she fits certain criteria (experience, PE, etc)
Jimbo228  [Member]
10/6/2011 12:58:58 PM EST
She needs to talk to a recruiter or check the websites. Army Reserve works differently and has different strength requirements than the active force. I do not know that the active force is going to have the slots.
lariatdrvr  [Member]
10/6/2011 6:07:20 PM EST
Nephew had the same problem. Year and a half out of school and paving parking lots. 6 years in school. Kept changing majors.
Decided to go talk to a army recruiter.
Did not get a MOS that he really wanted but they did help pick up some of the tab on his schooling. Went to a private university that was not very cheap.
Did basic, came out as a e4, then turned around after graduation and sent striaght into OCS, same base. Ft Benning.
Now after a year plus of training for arty he is in Germany and soon to pick up 1st LT.
But with draw down may get tight.
POW-MIAneverforget  [Life Member]
10/6/2011 9:00:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:
What type of engineer is she? I'd bet there is a way to guarantee a slot in the engineers if she fits certain criteria (experience, PE, etc)


Not as far as I know. I've seen several officers (Engineers) who their PE and/or a significant amount of civilian engineering expierience and they still went were the army sent them (usually a BCT or Engineer BN). It can probably be done if you have someone who can pull strings but getting a job with the Corps of Engineers or some of the other agencies that are more engineering specific (not the combat kind) seems to be something that engineers do as CPT's or MAJ's (and above).
kypt  [Team Member]
10/7/2011 9:53:12 AM EST
This is how it went for me in the Guard:

- go see recruiter and sign up
- go to basic training
- go home after basic and talk to your assigned OSM (officer strength manager)
- the OSM will find you a slot in your state and your choices are limited to what is available at that time (there may or may not be an engineer slot available and it could be on the other side of the state)
- go to OCS either all at once (accelerated) or 2 weeks/drill for a year/another 2 weeks (traditional)
- upon graduation from OCS you will go to BOLC B (8.5 weeks for me) which is scheduled by your unit

I'm not sure if the reserves do it the same. They probably don't have the traditional option for OCS, but I'd guess that the slots are given out in the same manner.
UncivilEngineer  [Team Member]
10/7/2011 9:57:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By ATACORION:
My freind has a degree in Engineering and her plans for her career just haven't panned out the way she wanted them too. She has seriously been considering looking ito the Army reserves. She is in good physical health, has no medical issues or prior legal issue (maybe the odd traffic ticket) and is very smart and has a great work ethic and attitude.

I am in the Navy, 8 years Active duty and been Reserve for the last 2 years so as far as Army Officer programs go I dont know shit. I can only comment about the Warrnat Officer program (I have applied twice).
Can she, seeing as how she has a degree in engineering choose her job feild (engineering corps)? Or is it like the Navy where unless you are medical you are an open source line officer and go where the Army Needs you?

If she does somehow pick up a commision in the engineering corps how long is her training pipeline before she would be "trained up"?

Is it worth it?

She's a classy lady and I gave her the reality froma sailors perspective of alot of women in the military ( they end up getting fucked by everyone in the unit, knocked up blah blah blah) Though she will be an officer.



That's not true for the Navy. Your designator is determined before OCS and you can apply and be selected for the Civil Engineer Corps (or any other community).
ATACORION  [Team Member]
10/7/2011 9:34:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer:

Originally Posted By ATACORION:
My freind has a degree in Engineering and her plans for her career just haven't panned out the way she wanted them too. She has seriously been considering looking ito the Army reserves. She is in good physical health, has no medical issues or prior legal issue (maybe the odd traffic ticket) and is very smart and has a great work ethic and attitude.

I am in the Navy, 8 years Active duty and been Reserve for the last 2 years so as far as Army Officer programs go I dont know shit. I can only comment about the Warrnat Officer program (I have applied twice).
Can she, seeing as how she has a degree in engineering choose her job feild (engineering corps)? Or is it like the Navy where unless you are medical you are an open source line officer and go where the Army Needs you?

If she does somehow pick up a commision in the engineering corps how long is her training pipeline before she would be "trained up"?

Is it worth it?

She's a classy lady and I gave her the reality froma sailors perspective of alot of women in the military ( they end up getting fucked by everyone in the unit, knocked up blah blah blah) Though she will be an officer.



That's not true for the Navy. Your designator is determined before OCS and you can apply and be selected for the Civil Engineer Corps (or any other community).


Saw your Avatar and told her to look into NAvFAC a few years ago, but the woman wouldn't listen, go figure
ABNglocker  [Team Member]
10/8/2011 5:16:44 PM EST
She will have to go to a Battalion OCS selection board. What is her GPA? she will need a 3.2 or better to be competative at the OCS board and also she will need to have a 240 or higher on a PT test, these are not requirements, just guidlines to be competative.
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