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ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:08:34 AM
Serious post.

My wife is considering this. She has one breast that never fully developed and she has to compensate with inserts in her bra. A once in a lifetime deal has come up where she can get it done for very little money. She's not looking to go huge, just even them out. I'm wondering if any of you have had this done and what you can tell me about it? You can PM me if you're more comfortable.

Thanks!
XCRmonger  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:12:15 AM
and away we go with the "she's doing it for the next dude" horse crap


Guys, this is the Women's section. I suggest you keep it polite.


And OP, I am a fan of women being comfortable with their bodies. I think implants look good, and they feel fine. Boobs are, in the end, boobs. This is a decision you two need to make together, though.
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:20:11 AM
Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
and away we go with the "she's doing it for the next dude" horse crap


Guys, this is the Women's section. I suggest you keep it polite.


And OP, I am a fan of women being comfortable with their bodies. I think implants look good, and they feel fine. Boobs are, in the end, boobs. This is a decision you two need to make together, though.


Yeah, I'm aware that some jackholes will post some BS. Whatever.

I'm happy if she's happy. I'm happy with what she has and I'm neutral on whether she does it or not. I know that this issue has bothered her for as long as we've been together and before. We've been married for 9 years and I have no concern that she's doing it for any other reason than she's unhappy. It's hell trying to buy bras. When she finds one that works, she goes back and buys 10 more.

Do you have implants? Feel is my big concern. Never had the opportunity to feel any and I just want to make sure it's not going to feel "strange".
DJinGA  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:22:39 AM
After being pregnant twice and enjoying the short-term extra "size", my wife has considered it more than once. I have two cousins who did it and love them.

That being said, it is surgery and she needs to seriously weigh the risks.
MissSnW  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:37:52 AM
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Serious post.

My wife is considering this. She has one breast that never fully developed and she has to compensate with inserts in her bra. A once in a lifetime deal has come up where she can get it done for very little money. She's not looking to go huge, just even them out. I'm wondering if any of you have had this done and what you can tell me about it? You can PM me if you're more comfortable.

Thanks!


Something about that sentence makes me leary. Be careful with whatever you decide.
Hoppy  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:44:33 AM
My ex had it done (no, it wasn't the reason we split). She was definitely much happier after the procedure. I didn't mind either as I'm one of those guys that isn't limited to enjoying only "natural" breasts.

Feel is a little more firm (my experience goes back more than twenty years and I'm sure they've been improved upon since).

She got them at a "discount" too. She worked as a billiing clerk in a major hospital operating room.
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:47:24 AM
Originally Posted By MissSnW:
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Serious post.

My wife is considering this. She has one breast that never fully developed and she has to compensate with inserts in her bra. A once in a lifetime deal has come up where she can get it done for very little money. She's not looking to go huge, just even them out. I'm wondering if any of you have had this done and what you can tell me about it? You can PM me if you're more comfortable.

Thanks!


Something about that sentence makes me leary. Be careful with whatever you decide.


I know what you're thinking. But no. The Dr. is one of the top rated in the state and has been doing this for 20 years. I run a sign shop. The Dr. ordered a bunch of interior signs (thousands of dollars worth) and we are basically bartering for it. It's not some backroom/Mexico type deal.
ZedsDeadBaby  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:50:30 AM
Breast idea ever.
SP1Grrl  [Moderator]
3/20/2011 9:57:43 AM
Originally Posted By ZedsDeadBaby:
Breast idea ever.


No you didn't.


I say go for it! If it's a reputable doc and it would make your wife feel better about herself, do it.
BeautifulStranger  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 10:18:12 AM
I think if she is healthy enough for surgery and she likes the Dr.'s work then she should go for it.
El_Guapo  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 10:41:46 AM
Do it.

You will both look back and wonder why you didn't do it earlier.
MissSnW  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:31:32 PM
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By MissSnW:
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Serious post.

My wife is considering this. She has one breast that never fully developed and she has to compensate with inserts in her bra. A once in a lifetime deal has come up where she can get it done for very little money. She's not looking to go huge, just even them out. I'm wondering if any of you have had this done and what you can tell me about it? You can PM me if you're more comfortable.

Thanks!


Something about that sentence makes me leary. Be careful with whatever you decide.


I know what you're thinking. But no. The Dr. is one of the top rated in the state and has been doing this for 20 years. I run a sign shop. The Dr. ordered a bunch of interior signs (thousands of dollars worth) and we are basically bartering for it. It's not some backroom/Mexico type deal.


Then I say go for it.
mks99  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 12:58:22 PM
ok, not even going to try to comment here. Just offering a suggestion to think about.

Close friend had a daughter with the same issue. '90's-ish time frame and she was early 20's. She did have an implant. This was a "fixed" size that was selected as the best match at the time.

They had to wait till that age as they were advised that it was the earliest to do it as the body finally levels out from a growth standpoint in that time frame.

She is now looking at another surgery to replace the implant as the body never really quits changing. (Think of all those grand mother cartoons with slight(?!?!!?!) displacement!!!!)

Here is the question to ask the doc to potentially save some future surgery/replacement/issues: Is it adjustable at a later date?

I've heard that the newer saline implants are actually sized at the time of surgery (adjusted with more fluid) as they are just one size now. ?NOT SURE!?? I am NO expert.

Might be a good question to ask if you have any options to spend some extra $$ now to avoid having to do it again later. Good luck either way!!!
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/20/2011 2:25:01 PM
Originally Posted By mks99:
ok, not even going to try to comment here. Just offering a suggestion to think about.

Close friend had a daughter with the same issue. '90's-ish time frame and she was early 20's. She did have an implant. This was a "fixed" size that was selected as the best match at the time.

They had to wait till that age as they were advised that it was the earliest to do it as the body finally levels out from a growth standpoint in that time frame.

She is now looking at another surgery to replace the implant as the body never really quits changing. (Think of all those grand mother cartoons with slight(?!?!!?!) displacement!!!!)

Here is the question to ask the doc to potentially save some future surgery/replacement/issues: Is it adjustable at a later date?

I've heard that the newer saline implants are actually sized at the time of surgery (adjusted with more fluid) as they are just one size now. ?NOT SURE!?? I am NO expert.

Might be a good question to ask if you have any options to spend some extra $$ now to avoid having to do it again later. Good luck either way!!!


The implants she and her Dr. have discussed using saline implants for exactly that reason. Silicone implants come in sizes. The saline you can add more or less fluid until things "match". They do make implants with a remote port that can be adjusted without surgery. Either way, this really isn't forever. Eventually she'll have to have them replaced or removed. Dr. says he has patients that have them swapped out every 6-8 years and he also has patients who he implanted in his first year of surgery that still have them.
Ldyrogue  [Team Member]
3/21/2011 7:13:25 PM
I would do it..

I want to do it.. And I am hoping for a birthday present from the hubbs! for my 35th..

That or I'll jump out of a perfectly good airplane..

It is surgery..... Just be sure to weigh the risks vs. rewards.. But If you are on board with her..

Good Luck!!
SpeechPathJunkie  [Team Member]
3/21/2011 7:29:47 PM
Sometimes it means everything to feel comfortable in your own body.
Max-Paul  [Team Member]
3/21/2011 11:02:47 PM
Ok, dont want to be the cold wet rag, but I think this needs to be said.

First saline is the way to go. Broken or leaking silicone is toxic and can cause many problems. One of the problems with a good operation is that over years the implant can be attacked by the body trying to reject it. In many cases the immune system will try to incase it. Much like an oyster will create pearl around a grain of sand. Although in the case of a human the coating is calcium that will make the breast hard. Also an implant will make it harder for the doctor to check your mammogram for cancer. And with any operation, there is always the chance for complications. Hospitals are known breading ground for staff infection. Remember this is voluntary surgery. Why put yourself at risk for staff infection?

On the other hand, I understand a woman's want or need to feel that she is normal or desirable. And as a man, well lets say more is better. My wife's family run a bit higher risk of Breast Cancer. So, I am concerned that any booby job will raise the risk of missing a spot in her breast that could be cancer. its not worth the risk as far as I am concerned. But gravity defying boobies would be nice / fun.
fammyman  [Team Member]
3/21/2011 11:06:07 PM
ok couple things. how do you feel about fake breast ? would she be comfortable having the other reduced to match ? i dont know nor do i need to her stats. just throwing that out there. that way she could stay natural if preferred.
chlwoodrow  [Member]
3/22/2011 11:17:32 AM
that was going to be my statement. you could make one bigger or the other smaller. personally i think the smaller ones look better after a few years. bigger, they seem to ..... displace after some years.
R2point0  [Member]
3/22/2011 11:49:25 AM
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By mks99:
ok, not even going to try to comment here. Just offering a suggestion to think about.

Close friend had a daughter with the same issue. '90's-ish time frame and she was early 20's. She did have an implant. This was a "fixed" size that was selected as the best match at the time.

They had to wait till that age as they were advised that it was the earliest to do it as the body finally levels out from a growth standpoint in that time frame.

She is now looking at another surgery to replace the implant as the body never really quits changing. (Think of all those grand mother cartoons with slight(?!?!!?!) displacement!!!!)

Here is the question to ask the doc to potentially save some future surgery/replacement/issues: Is it adjustable at a later date?

I've heard that the newer saline implants are actually sized at the time of surgery (adjusted with more fluid) as they are just one size now. ?NOT SURE!?? I am NO expert.

Might be a good question to ask if you have any options to spend some extra $$ now to avoid having to do it again later. Good luck either way!!!


The implants she and her Dr. have discussed using saline implants for exactly that reason. Silicone implants come in sizes. The saline you can add more or less fluid until things "match". They do make implants with a remote port that can be adjusted without surgery. Either way, this really isn't forever. Eventually she'll have to have them replaced or removed. Dr. says he has patients that have them swapped out every 6-8 years and he also has patients who he implanted in his first year of surgery that still have them.


My wife has the exact same situation. One issue too keep in mind is that they will NOT look or feel identical. Implants are placed under the existing breast tissue, and unless your wife has zero breast tissue (unlikely), the breast with the implant will have a sort of dual density. Also, positioning of the implant is important - since my wife's breast never really developed at all, there is no natural "pocket" for the implant, so it rides very low. Also, breast size with pregnancy will be a roller coaster.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE my wife's boobs. I've figured I've had at least 6-8 differently shaped boobs to play with (though not at the same time. Total Recall, anyone?) I've never cared how they looked. But she still feels embarrassed and humiliated, and the surgery didn't fix it. I'd like to get her to a real pro, but finances won't handle it now.

At one point I was pushing her to get the implant fixed pretty hard, and she took it as dissatisfaction on my part. I had to explain that I wasn't dissatisfied with her body; I was unhappy at her poor self image. I wanted her to be proud of her body and not embarrassed. She didn't really get it until I said "I want to be able to go to Mardi Gras and, when someone says 'Show us your tits!' you don't hesitate for 1 second to lift up your shirt." I'll admit it was crude, but effective.

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's HER body, and you need to do what you can to help her feel happy with it, regardless of how it's shaped.

BTW, did her mother take DES by chance? Or her grandmother?
R2point0  [Member]
3/22/2011 12:03:12 PM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
Ok, dont want to be the cold wet rag, but I think this needs to be said.

First saline is the way to go. Broken or leaking silicone is toxic and can cause many problems. One of the problems with a good operation is that over years the implant can be attacked by the body trying to reject it. In many cases the immune system will try to incase it. Much like an oyster will create pearl around a grain of sand. Although in the case of a human the coating is calcium that will make the breast hard. Also an implant will make it harder for the doctor to check your mammogram for cancer. And with any operation, there is always the chance for complications. Hospitals are known breading ground for staff infection. Remember this is voluntary surgery. Why put yourself at risk for staff infection?

On the other hand, I understand a woman's want or need to feel that she is normal or desirable. And as a man, well lets say more is better. My wife's family run a bit higher risk of Breast Cancer. So, I am concerned that any booby job will raise the risk of missing a spot in her breast that could be cancer. its not worth the risk as far as I am concerned. But gravity defying boobies would be nice / fun.


While I agree with saline implants for the variable sizing, I need to point out that:
1) Silicone feels more like natural breast tissue, and
2) There has never been a scientific connection established between leaking silicone implants and the various diseases imputed to them. YES, the QC on them was bad and they did sometimes rupture, which was a big problem. But the material itself is otherwise inert, and no one has been able to show a correlation between the implants and autoimmune and other diseases. And no, lawsuits don't count as scientific evidence.

Also, I'm not sure where you got calcium being deposited around implants. Scar tissue forms, and sometimes a lot does, creating the rock hard "porn star boobs". But that's just scar tissue.
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/22/2011 7:15:45 PM
Originally Posted By R2point0:

I guess what I'm getting at is that it's HER body, and you need to do what you can to help her feel happy with it, regardless of how it's shaped.

BTW, did her mother take DES by chance? Or her grandmother?


That's where I'm at. I'm perfectly happy as is. Breast feeding isn't an issue as we already have 3 kids and won't be having anymore. I figure they're going to feel a little different, but that's really not a big deal to me, so long as they still feel "breast like".

I'd never heard of DES before your post. While it's possible her grandmother did, the use of it was discontinued by the time my wife was born (1980). Interesting stuff.
newarcher  [Member]
3/23/2011 5:16:23 PM
This is a big deal for women, this isn't a purely vanity issue since she had malformation. It's her call.

The very best advice that I can give you is this: BUTT THE HAEL OUT OF THE DECISION MAKING! :D

If something goes wrong, she doesn't like them, etc. etc. etc. then you will be to blame for making this 'back room' deal with this doctor and then forced her into it. She didn't have time to contemplate it because you had to have an immediate decision. Of course, none of that is true but it will be in the green fog of her memory! Feel me dog?

I've been married for 20 years now and I have been responsible for countless bad haircuts, outfits, etc. and I wasn't even there!

Also, being an Accountant and Enrolled Agent I must caution you that you must report the fair market value of the surgery as income and the doctor must report the fair value of your signs. http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html

Good luck,
New
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/23/2011 11:41:05 PM
Originally Posted By newarcher:
This is a big deal for women, this isn't a purely vanity issue since she had malformation. It's her call.

The very best advice that I can give you is this: BUTT THE HAEL OUT OF THE DECISION MAKING! :D

If something goes wrong, she doesn't like them, etc. etc. etc. then you will be to blame for making this 'back room' deal with this doctor and then forced her into it. She didn't have time to contemplate it because you had to have an immediate decision. Of course, none of that is true but it will be in the green fog of her memory! Feel me dog?

I've been married for 20 years now and I have been responsible for countless bad haircuts, outfits, etc. and I wasn't even there!

Also, being an Accountant and Enrolled Agent I must caution you that you must report the fair market value of the surgery as income and the doctor must report the fair value of your signs. http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html

Good luck,
New


Been married for going on 10 years. I don't have an opinion. It was actually her idea and she brought it up. I didn't have a clue she was even discussing it.

As to the tax implications, actual money is changing hands.... We're just paying each other the same amount.
Weber  [Team Member]
3/27/2011 8:05:28 PM
Go for it!

My wife had hers done last year and she is very happy with the results.
cmjohnson  [Team Member]
3/27/2011 8:16:36 PM
Definitely balance them out.

Nothing is more annoying than an off-balance woman who walks in circles all the time.





Zhukov  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 11:48:30 AM
My biggest concern would be the longevity (or lack thereof) and the surgeries (and costs) associated with that. Then again, a ton of women apparently have them and it must not be that big of a deal or we'd have heard more in the press about it so maybe I'm being paranoid...
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 12:11:21 PM
That is one of my concerns as well, but apparently theyre good to go for a decade at least. Much longer in mostcases

badeffect10  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 12:22:36 PM
My wife just had hers done 4 days ago. As with most mothers, her boobs didn't come through the pregnancy/nursing process very well. One was slightly smaller than the other. We went with saline because it gives you the ability to get the correct amount of saline in there to compensate for any size issues. With silicon, I believe they only go in 25 cc increments.
BigeasySnow  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 6:29:00 PM


I know a lot of girls with them and none have any regrets. It sucks having to switch them out every decade or so though. Think about it. She's how old now? How many more surgeries if she lives to 90? I'd go for it if it was me. I don't like fake boobs, but all that matters is if they make her happy. Heck, if mine ever let me down in a big way and I'm still vain enough to care, I'll do it too.
Zhukov  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 7:40:42 PM

Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:

I know a lot of girls with them and none have any regrets. It sucks having to switch them out every decade or so though. Think about it. She's how old now? How many more surgeries if she lives to 90? I'd go for it if it was me. I don't like fake boobs, but all that matters is if they make her happy. Heck, if mine ever let me down in a big way and I'm still vain enough to care, I'll do it too.

Have any of the girls you know had the follow-up surgery yet? Is it just as invasive and is the recovery time as long, or is not quite as involved?
cmjohnson  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 8:18:57 PM

Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:


I know a lot of girls with them and none have any regrets. It sucks having to switch them out every decade or so though. Think about it. She's how old now? How many more surgeries if she lives to 90? I'd go for it if it was me. I don't like fake boobs, but all that matters is if they make her happy. Heck, if mine ever let me down in a big way and I'm still vain enough to care, I'll do it too.


Based on the most recent photo I've seen of you, yours are still as high and tight as Charlie Sheen enjoying a free weekend in Nassau.


CJ

badeffect10  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 9:21:12 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:

I know a lot of girls with them and none have any regrets. It sucks having to switch them out every decade or so though. Think about it. She's how old now? How many more surgeries if she lives to 90? I'd go for it if it was me. I don't like fake boobs, but all that matters is if they make her happy. Heck, if mine ever let me down in a big way and I'm still vain enough to care, I'll do it too.

Have any of the girls you know had the follow-up surgery yet? Is it just as invasive and is the recovery time as long, or is not quite as involved?


Actually, a friend of our just had hers redone for the first time a week before my wife had hers done. According to her, it was much easier than the first time around. She had her surgery in the morning and was eating at outback that night.
Zhukov  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 9:31:30 PM

Originally Posted By badeffect10:

Actually, a friend of our just had hers redone for the first time a week before my wife had hers done. According to her, it was much easier than the first time around. She had her surgery in the morning and was eating at outback that night.

Interesting. I was wondering about that...
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 9:52:47 PM
Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:


I know a lot of girls with them and none have any regrets. It sucks having to switch them out every decade or so though. Think about it. She's how old now? How many more surgeries if she lives to 90? I'd go for it if it was me. I don't like fake boobs, but all that matters is if they make her happy. Heck, if mine ever let me down in a big way and I'm still vain enough to care, I'll do it too.


She's 30 now. They are "warrantied" for 10 years, but the Dr. says he wouldn't expect her to have to swap them for 15 or 20, unless she pops one. Either way, he said replacement surgery is much easier, since you already have a "pocket". They just slide the old one out and the new one in. If she had them every 10 years, based on family history, she'd be looking at 5 or 6 surgeries. Although, once she gets much past 70, I'd be surprised if she kept them "high and tight".
Zhukov  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 9:57:50 PM
Anyone know how much the replacement surgery costs?
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 10:20:31 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Anyone know how much the replacement surgery costs?


I can't speak for everywhere, but my wife's Dr. charges about $2500 for replacement/revision versus $6200 for the first time.
Zhukov  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 10:31:20 PM

Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Anyone know how much the replacement surgery costs?

I can't speak for everywhere, but my wife's Dr. charges about $2500 for replacement/revision versus $6200 for the first time.

My wife brought up an interesting point when I mentioned this thread to her: What if you save your pennies and can afford the first surgery, but don't have the cash when you need the follow-up?
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/28/2011 10:54:09 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Anyone know how much the replacement surgery costs?

I can't speak for everywhere, but my wife's Dr. charges about $2500 for replacement/revision versus $6200 for the first time.

My wife brought up an interesting point when I mentioned this thread to her: What if you save your pennies and can afford the first surgery, but don't have the cash when you need the follow-up?


You'd likely never "need" a followup. With saline, if you don't even get them replaced and one bursts, there's no adverse effect. It just goes back to natural. I wouldn't, however, be considering it if I thought we wouldn't be able to afford it now and later.
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
6/4/2011 1:50:20 PM
Well, it's been about a month since she had the surgery. She's happy as can be. Me too. She's much more comfortable with her body and I benefit greatly! Recovery was easy, had surgery on a Thursday and was back to work by Monday.

Zhukov  [Team Member]
6/4/2011 2:29:57 PM

Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Well, it's been about a month since she had the surgery. She's happy as can be. Me too. She's much more comfortable with her body and I benefit greatly! Recovery was easy, had surgery on a Thursday and was back to work by Monday.

Awesome - glad it worked out for her.

(and you)
Texas_Rick  [Team Member]
6/4/2011 7:13:28 PM
Google Brian Zembic
The man with the $100,000 boobs
shooter1201  [Member]
6/6/2011 5:03:33 PM
I'll say it again:

My wife is 5'7"/105 pounds....and is a PURRRRRfect 32B....and I wouldn't want her to change a single thing!
Shane333  [Team Member]
6/6/2011 5:11:29 PM
This is one of those decisions that depend entirely on the situation/motivation. Of course the opinions that matter are the husband's and the wife's, but personally I can't blame a woman for wanting to "balance" things out.
leighboe  [Team Member]
6/17/2011 10:33:25 PM
I may be too late to the party, but I'll go ahead and suggest that she sign up on http://www.makemeheal.com. It's a plastic surgery site complete with forums where your wife can read about real-life experiences, expectations, pre/post surgical care, etc.

I have silocone implants and they look and feel like the real thing. They jiggle and sway when I move, they "hang" naturally, and I didn't lose nipple sensation.
BigeasySnow  [Team Member]
6/18/2011 8:53:41 AM
Originally Posted By leighboe:
I may be too late to the party, but I'll go ahead and suggest that she sign up on http://www.makemeheal.com. It's a plastic surgery site complete with forums where your wife can read about real-life experiences, expectations, pre/post surgical care, etc.

I have silocone implants and they look and feel like the real thing. They jiggle and sway when I move, they "hang" naturally, and I didn't lose nipple sensation.


Where did they go in?
leighboe  [Team Member]
6/18/2011 10:20:19 AM
Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:
Originally Posted By leighboe:
I may be too late to the party, but I'll go ahead and suggest that she sign up on http://www.makemeheal.com. It's a plastic surgery site complete with forums where your wife can read about real-life experiences, expectations, pre/post surgical care, etc.

I have silocone implants and they look and feel like the real thing. They jiggle and sway when I move, they "hang" naturally, and I didn't lose nipple sensation.


Where did they go in?


In my boobs, silly!

My surgery was more reconstructive, with an augmentation and lift, so they did a "lollipop" scar, cutitng around the nipple and then straight down under the breast. This allowed for excess skin removal. The implants were placed under the muscle. This isn't me, but it's a pic of a lollipop scar (you can barely see my scars now): http://www.cosmeticsurg.net/procedures/portfolio.php?id=72&portfolio_id=141
LockNLoadLiana  [Member]
6/18/2011 6:49:26 PM
i have had mine for over 11 years and love them. I would recommend anybody who really wants them to go for it. Of all the different was to go out there I would not recommend through the belly button ( its the riskiest from what I know). I went through the nipple and you cant even see a scar, of course that depends on how the person heals and scars. I would recommend saline and under the muscle, but that is really just personal preference. Just make sure to check the doctor out really good and find out what company is making the implants. most of them come with a guarantee. Also, breakage rates are usually 1% per year (after 10 years you have a 10% chance of breakage).