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WPNS462  [Team Member]
7/28/2010 1:16:37 AM
Does anyone teach their kids anything about history...specifically the history of holidays? Being in the military, I think it's important that my kids know what they mean. It bugs the crap out of me that the schools in AZ aren't teaching the meaning of the holidays...Veterans, Memorial, Labor, 4th Of July....any holiday for that matter. They don't know the true meaning for Easter and Christmas, just that "I get gifts".

My 13 year old daughter just got "promoted" from 8th grade. Around the 4th of July...I can't recall how we got to talking about presidents...but she says she doesn't understand why people are saying Obama is the first black president when Martin Luther King, Jr. was a president. He was standing in front of a "white house" during all of his speeches.

Also, according to her, Adolf Hitler was also an American president who also stood in front of a "white house" during his speeches. Never mind that he spoke german and killed millions of people....he was liberating America from the bad people.

Needless to say, I corrected her on the spot about both people she mentioned. I asked her her grade in history and she proudly proclaims she got an 'A'.

ANyone else have these problems with their kids' schools?

Onesimos  [Team Member]
7/28/2010 8:35:15 PM
More importantly, how did she feel about her "A"?
WPNS462  [Team Member]
7/29/2010 3:20:56 AM
Originally Posted By Onesimos:
More importantly, how did she feel about her "A"?


She beamed with pride. I told her she would have got a "D" for saying the dumbest things ever.
GRATIOFLASH  [Team Member]
7/29/2010 6:38:20 PM
Thank God that she is still reachable. If she makes it to college with all of that liberal crap in her head, it's gonna be tough to straighten her out. My American History Professor in college was head of the local NAACP chapter, and all he taught us about WW2 was draft riots, Tuskegee Airmen, and the Black Panther tank battalion. Thank God, the only thing that interested me in school growing up was history, and I ate it up. I still do. My own reading and research kept me grounded in my conservative principles. I have a 4 year old son, who is starting his 2nd year of preschool. My wife and I have decided to send him to private school, even though we cant afford it. My son will know the truth about America, the beautiful and the ugly, and will draw his own commonsense conclusions, and not some anti-white, anti-conservative, anti-Christian crap that the progressive school-system shoves down his throat.
My $.02
WPNS462  [Team Member]
7/29/2010 7:06:02 PM
School starts here in AZ next week. I'm gonna talk to her old teacher about it. She hits high school next. Hopefully she learns some shit there. I hated math in school, but I loved science and history. History, military, Discovery...those channels are always on in my house.
markfall  [Team Member]
7/29/2010 7:07:38 PM
Wow. Daddy needs to order some time life dvd sets and have a marathon.
WPNS462  [Team Member]
7/29/2010 7:53:45 PM
Originally Posted By markfall:
Wow. Daddy needs to order some time life dvd sets and have a marathon.


Not a bad idea. Specifically on Hitler and King, Jr.

GRATIOFLASH  [Team Member]
7/30/2010 10:57:07 AM
I would also suggest books by David Barton on the Founding Fathers.
ByNameRequest  [Team Member]
8/2/2010 1:48:26 PM
Originally Posted By WPNS462:
Does anyone teach their kids anything about history...specifically the history of holidays? Being in the military, I think it's important that my kids know what they mean. It bugs the crap out of me that the schools in AZ aren't teaching the meaning of the holidays...Veterans, Memorial, Labor, 4th Of July....any holiday for that matter. They don't know the true meaning for Easter and Christmas, just that "I get gifts".

My 13 year old daughter just got "promoted" from 8th grade. Around the 4th of July...I can't recall how we got to talking about presidents...but she says she doesn't understand why people are saying Obama is the first black president when Martin Luther King, Jr. was a president. He was standing in front of a "white house" during all of his speeches.

Also, according to her, Adolf Hitler was also an American president who also stood in front of a "white house" during his speeches. Never mind that he spoke german and killed millions of people....he was liberating America from the bad people.

Needless to say, I corrected her on the spot about both people she mentioned. I asked her her grade in history and she proudly proclaims she got an 'A'.

ANyone else have these problems with their kids' schools?



Wow, just wow....

Thanks for the reminder to keep trying to get the truth to kids.....

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
Voodoo17  [Team Member]
8/6/2010 9:00:12 AM
My oldest grandson did say he learned about the Second Worl War in school. I guess I will have to ask him more. Oh, he is 14.
HELOBRAVO  [Team Member]
8/6/2010 9:32:17 AM
Home schooling here.....
ByNameRequest  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 10:27:19 PM
Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
Home schooling here.....


What curriculum do you use to teach history to your kids?
vxtip545  [Member]
8/24/2010 2:17:39 AM
i dont know what other kids spent there time doing in school, but when i was home i was watching a ton of history channel every day, ive always been far more interested in military aspects of history. i dont think the most important parts of history and the lessons learned are drilled in deep enough, or even touched on. a friend of mine in college didnt know who fought in WWI....
raizer  [Team Member]
8/24/2010 10:35:38 AM
Fairfax County Public Schools in VA are some of the best in the nation. I went into my 7th grade daughters history class last year-she is in the gifted and talented program and was greatly surprised and pleased with what I saw. Her class was set up for memorial day. All 4 walls of her class had posters from Rev War, Civil War (both N and S) prints by Troiani...then there were photos from D Day, Vietnam and our current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There were also photos of Churchill and Kennedy. There was even a print of the towers getting hit. So the teacher, a young guy, then showed a video of what Memorial day means. The speaker was a marine gunny sergeant, a vietnam vet and he told his daughter about sacrifice and courage and commitment in defending the country. The video ended with the gunny putting on his uniform and marching in the local memorial day parade with his daughter.

Being a history major, and a former army officer, I was very impressed with Rachel Carson Middle school. Her teacher is teaching patriotism along with history and values to the students.
Angelshare1  [Team Member]
8/24/2010 5:19:41 PM
That sounds like that SNL sketch where there's a game show where the answers to the history questions are based on a survey of high school students, not the correct answers.

WPNS462  [Team Member]
8/26/2010 5:10:17 PM
Originally Posted By vxtip545:
i dont know what other kids spent there time doing in school, but when i was home i was watching a ton of history channel every day, ive always been far more interested in military aspects of history. i dont think the most important parts of history and the lessons learned are drilled in deep enough, or even touched on. a friend of mine in college didnt know who fought in WWI....



Kida are too busy texting each other. Our currently tech makes it easier to stay in touch with your friends without having to go outside and talk to them, so they lose interest in other things.
WPNS462  [Team Member]
8/26/2010 5:27:27 PM
Originally Posted By vxtip545:
i dont know what other kids spent there time doing in school, but when i was home i was watching a ton of history channel every day, ive always been far more interested in military aspects of history. i dont think the most important parts of history and the lessons learned are drilled in deep enough, or even touched on. a friend of mine in college didnt know who fought in WWI....



My 8th grade son came home from school after his first week and asked me if I knew that America was at war with itself. I looked at him like he was crazy and said, "Yeah, it's called the Civil War...the North and the South fought each other". He asked me how I know so much about history and told me I should be a history teacher. I told him I paid attention during history, that I watch educational TV (but only when Futurama, Family Guy and Robot Chicken aren't on or when nothing is good on SyFy LOL) and that it's important that we learn from our mistakes so we can move forward as a Nation and improve our future.

Which brings me to this....our current mistakes, as a Nation, will be history one day. And we damn well better learn from these mistakes. LOL