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Bank of America Customers: Need help proving forgery
12/7/2011 12:17:14 AM
Hey, I might not be a frequent poster here, but I do a lot for firearm sites. I host co-ar15.com free, and generally try help any firearm site that needs it. I don't have enough time to post on all the sites, and I can't remember my normal arfcom username but I managed to find one of my old registration attempts. Lol.
Anyway,
I've got an issue in which our horse was stolen, by a woman we had to evict (for squatting mind you, %^%^ Colorado laws)
Anyway, the day after being evicted the woman went after the horse (extortion/revenge). She dug up some old Bank of America checks, from 2002, to the court as her "evidence" of ownership (despite our having all ownership and health paperwork) and the judge gave the the woman an Order of Possession prior to hearing, before service of process was even done. The checks did not even have a memo, and nobody bothered to contact the recipient. Total bullshit.
In clearer context, the woman self-signed an affidavit, provided a check from 2002 from a random woman, no memo, and the court said "Ok, you can steal the horse". Now, that is issues in itself and we obviously can go after county, etc. but here is the kicker:
They copied the back of the 1st check, onto the back of the second check (presumably to conceal a difference in years). It's so, so easy to detect but I need to make sure they do not weasel out of it. The copy includes 6/10 digits of the matching sequence number despite having 3 days of separation. This is 2 felonies in the state of Colorado and helps us prove the third (theft of livestock).
That is a lot of mumbo jumbo, but here is what I need, and I'm willing to pay if you can find it:
Are you a former or current bank of america checking customer and the type that never gets rid of statements/canceled checks? Please help, it is worth your while.
Two, or two sets of Bank of America checks, showing the canceled check portion (the back). These checks need to have 96 hours (that is 3 days) of separation or less. The older, the better. If you have some anytime between 2000-2003 I would hug you. 2010 is still helpful.
Now, this works best with checks that you deposited, not checks that you wrote. It does not even have to be checks. Any deposit slips, or cash in slips, or anything of the sort will still have the same sequence number pattern.
I need to prove how vastly the sequence number changes, in three days or less.
Sequential deposited checks are okay, but only if you have some other ones that were deposited within 3 business days.
It's a shot in the dark, but please help us get some justice.
Alternatively, if you work at Bank of America you could help too.
Email if you have any questions or thoughts or whatever.
––foxtrot
jcolby (a) acsol.net
Colorado AR-15 Shooters, 1911.com
Anyway,
I've got an issue in which our horse was stolen, by a woman we had to evict (for squatting mind you, %^%^ Colorado laws)
Anyway, the day after being evicted the woman went after the horse (extortion/revenge). She dug up some old Bank of America checks, from 2002, to the court as her "evidence" of ownership (despite our having all ownership and health paperwork) and the judge gave the the woman an Order of Possession prior to hearing, before service of process was even done. The checks did not even have a memo, and nobody bothered to contact the recipient. Total bullshit.
In clearer context, the woman self-signed an affidavit, provided a check from 2002 from a random woman, no memo, and the court said "Ok, you can steal the horse". Now, that is issues in itself and we obviously can go after county, etc. but here is the kicker:
They copied the back of the 1st check, onto the back of the second check (presumably to conceal a difference in years). It's so, so easy to detect but I need to make sure they do not weasel out of it. The copy includes 6/10 digits of the matching sequence number despite having 3 days of separation. This is 2 felonies in the state of Colorado and helps us prove the third (theft of livestock).
That is a lot of mumbo jumbo, but here is what I need, and I'm willing to pay if you can find it:
Are you a former or current bank of america checking customer and the type that never gets rid of statements/canceled checks? Please help, it is worth your while.
Two, or two sets of Bank of America checks, showing the canceled check portion (the back). These checks need to have 96 hours (that is 3 days) of separation or less. The older, the better. If you have some anytime between 2000-2003 I would hug you. 2010 is still helpful.
Now, this works best with checks that you deposited, not checks that you wrote. It does not even have to be checks. Any deposit slips, or cash in slips, or anything of the sort will still have the same sequence number pattern.
I need to prove how vastly the sequence number changes, in three days or less.
Sequential deposited checks are okay, but only if you have some other ones that were deposited within 3 business days.
It's a shot in the dark, but please help us get some justice.
Alternatively, if you work at Bank of America you could help too.
Email if you have any questions or thoughts or whatever.
––foxtrot
jcolby (a) acsol.net
Colorado AR-15 Shooters, 1911.com
12/7/2011 1:26:32 AM
You may want to sue them for the 10 dollars a day boarding since 2002 or whatever the year was. Additionally don't forget the training fees. I figure about 20 bucks an hour for each hour being ridden, led, or in a round pen. 20x365x9=32,850. If around Denver the going rate may be closer to 20 dollars a day I'd think.
12/7/2011 9:47:03 AM
Why not just call BOA???????
Their security department can provide you with this kind of information.
I doubt that anyone with a lick of sense is going to send you copies of their checks
showing their account numbers.
Their security department can provide you with this kind of information.
I doubt that anyone with a lick of sense is going to send you copies of their checks
showing their account numbers.12/7/2011 10:10:43 AM
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
Why not just call BOA???????
Their security department can provide you with this kind of information.
I doubt that anyone with a lick of sense is going to send you copies of their checks showing their account numbers.
Why not just call BOA???????
Their security department can provide you with this kind of information.
I doubt that anyone with a lick of sense is going to send you copies of their checks
showing their account numbers.This.
And the fact that when I was with BOA they never sent me canceled checks anyway. I really should shred the checkbooks I have left though. (dropped BOA when i moved here cos the closest one was over 20 miles away)
can't find crap online either for images of the back of a canceled check.
i'd suggest getting a lawyer and having him or her contact the bank.
teh bank may not be able to help you directly since... it's dealing with personal information and telling you anything could be a violation of local or federal laws. however your lawyer may be able to get a representative into court to testify about the checks etc.
12/8/2011 4:41:06 AM
I (likely of course) already tried calling them before going this far.....
It's a catch 22. Bank of America is worthless. They direct you to corporate security, which only deals with law enforcement and wants a subpoena, even to verify @#@$ sequence numbers which do not bear any relevance on privacy. They can't even have a branch manager look at a damn check and say "Yup, that is a sequence number". No, I need to blow hundreds of dollars, so they can tell me "Duh, we dunno what's on our own checks.."
w-o-r-t-h-l-e-s-s b-a-n-k
And really, I need to do this so we can get the criminal pressing (which then, you can subpoena things...)
I've been trying to find a forensic expert that really knows canceled checks/sequence numbers, but so far no luck.
Checks are from 2002 so I can't pull bank records.
This would also work if you have ANY checking account, and you wrote 2 checks to the same place (within 3 days) that were deposited at their bank of america account.
FYI: There are not privacy issues. You do not have to have a depositee's permission to use canceled checks in court.
Unrelated: It is a legal means of getting account numbers, as in if you need to prosecute someone, you can identify accounts to have court drafts placed by simply purchasing something from them with a check. Not what I'm doing here.
It's a catch 22. Bank of America is worthless. They direct you to corporate security, which only deals with law enforcement and wants a subpoena, even to verify @#@$ sequence numbers which do not bear any relevance on privacy. They can't even have a branch manager look at a damn check and say "Yup, that is a sequence number". No, I need to blow hundreds of dollars, so they can tell me "Duh, we dunno what's on our own checks.."
w-o-r-t-h-l-e-s-s b-a-n-k
And really, I need to do this so we can get the criminal pressing (which then, you can subpoena things...)
I've been trying to find a forensic expert that really knows canceled checks/sequence numbers, but so far no luck.
Checks are from 2002 so I can't pull bank records.
This would also work if you have ANY checking account, and you wrote 2 checks to the same place (within 3 days) that were deposited at their bank of america account.
FYI: There are not privacy issues. You do not have to have a depositee's permission to use canceled checks in court.
Unrelated: It is a legal means of getting account numbers, as in if you need to prosecute someone, you can identify accounts to have court drafts placed by simply purchasing something from them with a check. Not what I'm doing here.
