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Moving to CA
9/5/2011 9:31:25 PM
I just got PCS orders to CA with follow on to Hawaii... what does this mean for my AR lower that I just built? or an upper that I would like to attach to it? Also, I am completely unaware of hawaii's gun laws... is there a centralized resource I can use to find this stuff out?
Not asking many questions, am I?
Not asking many questions, am I?
9/5/2011 9:37:02 PM
Not sure about HI but in CA, you must have a bullet button on your AR if you have any evil feature, I.e. Pistol grip, fore grip ect..... Mags are capped at 10 rounds for all guns. Your upper should be fine as long as it 16" or more.
9/5/2011 9:40:47 PM
on any weapon brought in? even if it is already assembled and mated to an upper before entering the state?
9/5/2011 10:33:21 PM
This will take some research. Many times there is exception for Military. I had a number of double edge knives in CA and a civilian couldn't even have a bowie with a sharpened back edge on the clip point.
9/5/2011 10:39:43 PM
Originally Posted By Casper507:
Many times there is exception for Military.
Many times there is exception for Military.
This is what I'm hoping for 末 I don't want to modify my lower, buy a POS CA-legal upper that isn't set up the way I want, then have to undo everything in a year when I move out of CA again.
ETA: Anyone here been through this before –– i.e., moving into CA with their AR?
9/5/2011 11:04:27 PM
Originally Posted By Mavenger:
This is what I'm hoping for 末 I don't want to modify my lower, buy a POS CA-legal upper that isn't set up the way I want, then have to undo everything in a year when I move out of CA again.
ETA: Anyone here been through this before 末 i.e., moving into CA with their AR?
Originally Posted By Casper507:
Many times there is exception for Military.
Many times there is exception for Military.
This is what I'm hoping for 末 I don't want to modify my lower, buy a POS CA-legal upper that isn't set up the way I want, then have to undo everything in a year when I move out of CA again.
ETA: Anyone here been through this before 末 i.e., moving into CA with their AR?
There's no such thing as a CA legal (or illegal) upper - just the federal length requirements. Some lowers are banned by name. However there is an exception for active duty mil.
The information you're looking for
9/5/2011 11:23:09 PM
Fucking hide it the CHP is not going to randomly knock on your door. Don't go shooting as much as it will suck. Then pull it out till you go to hawaii. But HI has some pretty weird laws to so be sure to research it.
9/5/2011 11:28:55 PM
Originally Posted By ruger556boy:
Fucking hide it the CHP is not going to randomly knock on your door. Don't go shooting as much as it will suck. Then pull it out till you go to hawaii. But HI has some pretty weird laws to so be sure to research it.
Fucking hide it the CHP is not going to randomly knock on your door. Don't go shooting as much as it will suck. Then pull it out till you go to hawaii. But HI has some pretty weird laws to so be sure to research it.
Recommending a felony?
9/5/2011 11:32:01 PM
Good info 末 tks. 末 however, letter from the base commander saying that "the use of personal assault weapons [is necessary] for sanctioned military actions" ??
I just want my rifle to be my rifle, and not be forced to make it some CA-approved AR-15-shaped baseball bat.
I'll have to call the CA DOJ up, probably.
I just want my rifle to be my rifle, and not be forced to make it some CA-approved AR-15-shaped baseball bat.
I'll have to call the CA DOJ up, probably.
9/5/2011 11:34:39 PM
Originally Posted By ruger556boy:
Fucking hide it the CHP is not going to randomly knock on your door. Don't go shooting as much as it will suck. Then pull it out till you go to hawaii. But HI has some pretty weird laws to so be sure to research it.
Fucking hide it the CHP is not going to randomly knock on your door. Don't go shooting as much as it will suck. Then pull it out till you go to hawaii. But HI has some pretty weird laws to so be sure to research it.
er... considering that I'm AD military, being caught would involve civvy punishment and military punishment... not willing to give up a stripe or two over this. Hell, I'll leave it with some family in NC if I have to.
9/5/2011 11:35:28 PM
Originally Posted By Mavenger:
Good info 末 tks. 末 however, letter from the base commander saying that "the use of personal assault weapons [is necessary] for sanctioned military actions" ??
I just want my rifle to be my rifle, and not be forced to make it some CA-approved AR-15-shaped baseball bat.
I'll have to call the CA DOJ up, probably.
Good info 末 tks. 末 however, letter from the base commander saying that "the use of personal assault weapons [is necessary] for sanctioned military actions" ??
I just want my rifle to be my rifle, and not be forced to make it some CA-approved AR-15-shaped baseball bat.
I'll have to call the CA DOJ up, probably.
I don't know how it works going down the mil route, but all of these were perfectly legal in CA.
9/5/2011 11:38:18 PM
fixed/pinned stocks? fixed/limited 10rd mags? (<––- I can live with this stuff, I just want to avoid modifying my guns if I'm able to.)
9/5/2011 11:44:59 PM
Originally Posted By Mavenger:
fixed/pinned stocks? fixed/limited 10rd mags? (<末- I can live with this stuff, I just want to avoid modifying my guns if I'm able to.)
fixed/pinned stocks? fixed/limited 10rd mags? (<末- I can live with this stuff, I just want to avoid modifying my guns if I'm able to.)
Stocks were not pinned (I just really like A2 stocks
).
The magazine catch/releases were replaced with raddlock bullet buttons and had to be used with 10 round magazines.
Get a bullet button and disassemble your > 10 rd magazines and you're good to go so long as the lower receiver is not one of the following:
American Spirit USA
Armalite AR-10, M15, Golden Eagle
Bushmaster XM15
Colt 6920, Match Target, Sporter
Dalphon BFD
DPMS Panther
Eagle Arms EA-15 A2 H-BAR, EA-15 E1, M15
Frankford Arsenal
Hessee Arms HAR 15A2
Knighs RAS, SR-15, SR-25
Les Baer Ultimate
Olympiuc AR-15, Car-97, PCR
Ordnance Inc AR-15
Palmetto SGA
Professional Ordnance Carbon 15
PWA
Rock River Car A2, A4, LE Tactical Carbine, NM A2, Standard A-2, Standard A-4 Flattop
Wilson Combat AR-15
That's the list of banned lowers. Anything other than those is good to go.
Hell, PM me your address and I'll send you a bullet button and a 10 round magazine. I just escaped CA (moved to VA yesterday) so I have plenty of compliance parts sitting around.
9/5/2011 11:51:37 PM
no luck! it's DPMS .... I can PM you my address though, I'm sure I could use the button 
.... I can PM you my address though, I'm sure I could use the button 9/5/2011 11:54:27 PM
Originally Posted By Mavenger:
no luck! it's DPMS .... I can PM you my address though, I'm sure I could use the button
no luck! it's DPMS
.... I can PM you my address though, I'm sure I could use the button Bummer about the receiver. Buy a new one (I think Palmetto is still having their $50 sale) and swap out the parts, leave your DPMS with a friend or sell it or something and you should be good to go.
How soon are you moving to CA? I can get a BB in the mail tomorrow but it will be a week or so before I can get to my 10 round mags.
9/6/2011 12:01:01 AM
no worries –– departing in a little more than a month, and I'll probably be down in VA soon to visit a friend there –– I'm also swinging through on my way out to visit family (I'm taking their grandkids all the way across the country from them), so we can meet up somewhere, if it comes down to it and it's convenient for you.
9/6/2011 1:07:18 AM
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9/6/2011 1:32:31 AM
http://www.calguns.net is a great place for info on CA laws. They have a few flow charts you can follow to find out if your guns are CA legal. Takes some of the guess work out of it. If your lowers are old enough they may be pre-ban and worth something to people in certain states. CA isn't one of them though. Ca isn't really as bad as people make it out to be on here. I mean it sucks compared to alot of states but on here its exaggerated about 20X worse than it really is. We can get just about any gun here other than .50BMG and with .338 being better in almost every way and .50 DTC being legal here if you really are compensating its pretty much good to go.
Fixed mag thing sucks but its not that bad. We are working very activly on getting our rights back and have lots of cases in court right now. Some cities are even giving out CCW's which was unheard of a while back.
Fixed mag thing sucks but its not that bad. We are working very activly on getting our rights back and have lots of cases in court right now. Some cities are even giving out CCW's which was unheard of a while back.
9/6/2011 1:42:09 AM
As stated above...
CALGUNS.NET
Ask all your questions there
CALGUNS.NET
Ask all your questions there
9/6/2011 12:02:40 PM
Mav, I'm also active duty and have looked into similar things. Contact California DOJ and inform them that you will be entering the state en route to Hawaii and they will give you all the Info you need, and will likely be able to get you in contact with someone in Hawaii that can give you the info for out there. California requires the Active Duty Military keep guns in accordance with Federal Regulation and to notify them prior to entering the state.
9/27/2011 2:59:14 AM
i was at fort irwin... had all my cali banned stuff... just do this...
ASSAULT WEAPONS Military Exemption - The DOJ allows active duty military members to apply for a DOJ Assault Weapons Permit during the course of permanent stationing in California. DOJ Business Rules, ｧ 2.00, 15 February 2001. Active duty personnel wishing to keep their assault weapons during their stay in California must submit a completed application, two completed ten-print fingerprint cards, a copy of the official orders, military identification and a $73 application fee. All active duty members must register the firearm within 90 days. Permits must be renewed annually, until such time the permit holder痴 active military duty in California is terminated. Members must keep the license on their person at all times when using the assault weapon, or at the place where the firearm is kept when not in use. Additional information is available in the Legal Office of your base.
ASSAULT WEAPONS Military Exemption - The DOJ allows active duty military members to apply for a DOJ Assault Weapons Permit during the course of permanent stationing in California. DOJ Business Rules, ｧ 2.00, 15 February 2001. Active duty personnel wishing to keep their assault weapons during their stay in California must submit a completed application, two completed ten-print fingerprint cards, a copy of the official orders, military identification and a $73 application fee. All active duty members must register the firearm within 90 days. Permits must be renewed annually, until such time the permit holder痴 active military duty in California is terminated. Members must keep the license on their person at all times when using the assault weapon, or at the place where the firearm is kept when not in use. Additional information is available in the Legal Office of your base.
