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 Is it inappropriate for a non-Marine to greet a Marine with the phrase "Semper Fi?"
The_Insider  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 10:54:17 AM
I never served in the armed forces, something for which I am filled with regret. I know plenty of vets from former privates all the way up to a rertired three star Army general. I show utmost respect to these folks.

I've often wondered if it is considered poor form for a non Marine to greet a Marine with the Marine motto.

What is the ARFCOM Leatherneck ruling?
ChinoUSMC  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 10:57:45 AM


I have no problem with it. They are showing support for us and I am happy with that.



reconBYfire  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 10:59:20 AM
I have 2 Marine buddies. One served in the Korean War and the other Vietnam. They always greet me and say goodbye with "SemperFi MotherF3cker!"...I simply reply "Semper Fi". If I beat them to the punch with some Army lingo..that is what they go with.

In the end..it is one Vet respecting another.
The_Insider  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 10:59:31 AM
Sir, thank you for your response and your service to our country.
cpd670  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:02:39 AM
I have no problem with it.
I see it as showing respect.
sinsir  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:07:23 AM
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
I never served in the armed forces, something for which I am filled with regret. I know plenty of vets from former privates all the way up to a rertired three star Army general. I show utmost respect to these folks.

I've often wondered if it is considered poor form for a non Marine to greet a Marine with the Marine motto.

What is the ARFCOM Leatherneck ruling?


i have never served either, but like you i tend to show respect to those whom have.
personaly i would consider it poor form.

osprey21  [Life Member]
7/29/2009 11:08:36 AM
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.

USMC_Ryfleman  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:12:10 AM
Originally Posted By osprey21:
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.



Yeah the jarhead thing from a non Marine always gets under my skin, they dont know any better so I just smile.
HAUK3  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:16:37 AM
Vets from other services OK, Kinda ghey in a cheerleader wayfor civilians. I would not greet a Frat boy with his greek hand shake or code words. Not knockin greek life.
bytor94  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:17:02 AM

Originally Posted By osprey21:
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.


Being U.S. Army, I didn't know that Marines were called Marines, until my fifth or sixth year in. I thought Jarhead was the correct designation.




Orbital-Burn  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:19:01 AM
stupid jarheads
USMC_Ryfleman  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:20:56 AM
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn:
stupid jarheads



EightySecond  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:22:00 AM

Originally Posted By USMC_Ryfleman:
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn:
stupid jarheads




It was all just a matter of time folks.
osprey21  [Life Member]
7/29/2009 11:22:37 AM

Originally Posted By bytor94:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.


Being U.S. Army, I didn't know that Marines were called Marines, until my fifth or sixth year in. I thought Jarhead was the correct designation.





Kinda like a guy I know that grew up in Tallahassee and went to FSU.

He didn't know that 'goddamnfuckinggators' wasn't one word until he was 26.



traprmike  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:23:06 AM
Originally Posted By ChinoUSMC:


I have no problem with it. They are showing support for us and I am happy with that.





this;;;;;

its a greetimg

I'd never do it, sounds silly.. but for those who do, knock your self out..
Bama-Shooter  [Moderator]
7/29/2009 11:23:42 AM
They really like it when you call them jarheads.

The_Insider  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:23:46 AM
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."
TPK0999  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:26:57 AM
No, just cause they adopted a long used phrase doesnt mean they lay claim. Semper Fidelis means Always Faithful. Now, the shortened version. Semper Fi, I would associate with the marines. I was comtemplating getting a tattoo that read Semper Fidelis but I didnt want everyone to think I was a marine. Especially the marines that would take offense to it.
TrojanMan  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:29:19 AM
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


They're all better than being a puddle pirate.
diaz_aa  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:29:49 AM
I think its retarded/ slightly irritating when non Marines say Semper Fi to me, although I will just smile and respond with Err (ooh rah).
diaz_aa  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:31:35 AM
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


We never called our AF buds "zoomie", Ive actually never heard that... We used chairmen... or flyboys...
MustardTiger  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:36:04 AM
Never served, also have the utmost respect for those men and women who protect our freedom and our Constitution.

That said, they're a pretty elite group of folks regardless of service branch. As such, "Semper Fi" seems more like a "reserved" phrase in the context of being a Marine, and I feel it's inappropriate to use it as someone who's not in the service.

I've stopped service men and women on the street though (ones clearly in uniform, dress or fatigues) and thanked them for their service.

short answer: no, I think it's inappropriate to use Semper Fi when not a service member.
Zaphod  [Life Member]
7/29/2009 11:37:29 AM
Originally Posted By ChinoUSMC:

I have no problem with it. They are showing support for us and I am happy with that.


Ditto.
NoMoAMMO  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:38:06 AM
Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


We never called our AF buds "zoomie", Ive actually never heard that... We used chairmen... or flyboys...


Wingnuts
82ND-ABN  [Site Staff]
7/29/2009 11:38:32 AM
I just say "good afternoon" then help them cross the street or carry their groceries.


ETA: Oops. I thought we were talking about little old ladies.
DPeacher  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:44:31 AM
Originally Posted By 82ND-ABN:
I just say "good afternoon" then help them cross the street or carry their groceries.



Chuck, you mutherfucker, you promised you wouldn't tell anyone about that.























82ND-ABN  [Site Staff]
7/29/2009 11:46:27 AM
LOL - DPeacher knows I have nothing but respect for our Marine Corps.
h3smith  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:48:30 AM
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn:
stupid jarheads


pretty redundant, isn't it?





i kid i kid!
junebug68  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:49:03 AM
Not inappropriate at all. It's just showing support.
Bama-Shooter  [Moderator]
7/29/2009 11:50:50 AM
Originally Posted By 82ND-ABN:
I just say "good afternoon" then help them cross the street or carry their groceries.


ETA: Oops. I thought we were talking about little old ladies.


AFBujinkan  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:54:18 AM
My brother used to act aggravated when I'd say Ooh-rah, always responded with "Stop that! You don't rate!" Never seems to mind when I call him Teufel Hund tho.

As to calling AF guys zoomies, doesn't really count. That's an old term for Academy grads. Although the USAFA rugby team seems to think they own the name now.
DPeacher  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:54:22 AM
Originally Posted By 82ND-ABN:
LOL - DPeacher knows I have nothing but respect for our Marine Corps.


Indeed I do. Semper Fi, Brother!
jhud  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:54:50 AM
I would not.
Because I am not a Marine and have no clue what the term truly means, therefore am not qualified to use it.
I would love to use that phrase though, and shame on me for not serving. As much as I want to say it was out of my hands, I could have done it if I truly wanted too.

a simple thank you will do just as good.
Chris_C  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:55:52 AM
Nope, not at all.

Have at it.


Just don't say it as "Fee"
WindKnot  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:56:23 AM
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


They're all better than being a puddle pirate.


That would be MISTER Puddle Pirate to you!

It all depends on the spirit in which it was offered.

Bill247  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 11:58:12 AM
I greet marines with "Woohoo naval infantry!"
Wehrmacht_Sniper  [Member]
7/29/2009 11:59:53 AM
I call my friends that were Marines jarheads, and they call me, former German Infantry....a kraut.

Personally, I think Semper Fi a comraderie greeting between Marines and would keep it that way, but I wouldn't think a Marine would freak out about it if someone else used the term.
ChinoUSMC  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 12:49:14 PM

Originally Posted By Wehrmacht_Sniper:
I call my friends that were Marines jarheads, and they call me, former German Infantry....a kraut.

Personally, I think Semper Fi a comraderie greeting between Marines and would keep it that way, but I wouldn't think a Marine would freak out about it if someone else used the term.


Nah... we wouldn't freak out...

But it would touch a nerve if a civilian called me Devil Dog. Actually, it nerves me when a lower ranking (LCpl, younger kid) tried to call me devil dog (when he didn't realize what rank I was (Sgt in civi's).

I don't know about the rest of you, but I heard "Devil Dog" so much in boot camp that I've associated that term similar to being a "Newb/Noob."


Being called Letherneck... no problem
Being called Jarhead... no problem
Saying Semper Fi... Ooh Rah!
Calling a Marine "Devil Dog" and risk getting your ass kicked by said "Devil Dog"... Priceless.



AFBujinkan  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 6:35:01 PM
Originally Posted By ChinoUSMC:

Originally Posted By Wehrmacht_Sniper:
I call my friends that were Marines jarheads, and they call me, former German Infantry....a kraut.

Personally, I think Semper Fi a comraderie greeting between Marines and would keep it that way, but I wouldn't think a Marine would freak out about it if someone else used the term.


Nah... we wouldn't freak out...

But it would touch a nerve if a civilian called me Devil Dog. Actually, it nerves me when a lower ranking (LCpl, younger kid) tried to call me devil dog (when he didn't realize what rank I was (Sgt in civi's).

I don't know about the rest of you, but I heard "Devil Dog" so much in boot camp that I've associated that term similar to being a "Newb/Noob."


Being called Letherneck... no problem
Being called Jarhead... no problem
Saying Semper Fi... Ooh Rah!
Calling a Marine "Devil Dog" and risk getting your ass kicked by said "Devil Dog"... Priceless.



Interesting look at it. I guess my brother either didn't hear "Devil Dog" as much or just reacted differently to hearing it. Saying it in German probably helps

What cracked me up was what he started calling new guys in his squadron after it was supposedly forbidden to call other Marines Devil Dogs (apparently some schmuck got offended ). He told our whole family how he'd started calling them JEWs (Junior Enlisted Warriors)

I love having a smartass Marine brother.
Orbital-Burn  [Member]
7/29/2009 7:44:17 PM
Originally Posted By h3smith:
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn:
stupid jarheads


pretty redundant, isn't it?





i kid i kid!


in general, yes it is. Their response to me was generally fucking squid, which is also redundant, as I was getting more pussy than they usually get

sniper1886  [Member]
7/29/2009 8:22:34 PM
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


They're all better than being a puddle pirate.


Or a deck ape
VBC  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:31:16 PM
Originally Posted By jhud:
I would not.
Because I am not a Marine and have no clue what the term truly means, therefore am not qualified to use it.
.


Same here. Two of my best friends from childhood are Marines and I don't say it to them. I don't know what it means like they do, so I think it would be patronizing to say it to them.

I tell you what though, the Marines really straightened their shit out. Turned them into much better people and real patriots.

Semper Fi
-RotorDemon-  [Member]
7/29/2009 8:41:35 PM
Sea going bellhop

Just kidding.
Lancair  [Member]
7/29/2009 8:42:10 PM
So, will Coasties beat me up if I say "Semper Paratus"?
Stonerriflefan44  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:43:52 PM
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
I never served in the armed forces, something for which I am filled with regret. I know plenty of vets from former privates all the way up to a rertired three star Army general. I show utmost respect to these folks.

I've often wondered if it is considered poor form for a non Marine to greet a Marine with the Marine motto.

What is the ARFCOM Leatherneck ruling?


IMHO

As long as you know them, or are good friends with them. But to a complete stranger, may come off as a leg humper or poser. YMMV

LARRYG  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:46:07 PM
Originally Posted By USMC_Ryfleman:
Originally Posted By osprey21:
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.



Yeah the jarhead thing from a non Marine always gets under my skin, they dont know any better so I just smile.


Hell, we called y'all jarheads and y'all called us squids. It was all okay until an outsider messed with either group.
Bushylover  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:47:53 PM

Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
Originally Posted By The_Insider:
When I was growing up and Dad was active duty, the term "doggies" was commonly heard in refering to Army troops. I always considered that to be hugely insulting. Likewise, I'd never call a Marine "jarhead," a sailor "squid," or an airman a "zoomie."


They're all better than being a puddle pirate.

Yeah, but that's better than "butt pirate".
Old_Painless  [Life Member]
7/29/2009 8:49:07 PM
Is it all right to tell Army Airborne, "All the way"?

PlaymoreMinds  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:50:43 PM
Originally Posted By osprey21:
I have no problem with it either, I just smile.


but call me a jarhead.. and I might not be so nice.



Orly?
WinterBorn  [Member]
7/29/2009 8:52:47 PM
Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
I think its retarded/ slightly irritating when non Marines say Semper Fi to me, although I will just smile and respond with Err (ooh rah).


+1
Palm  [Team Member]
7/29/2009 8:59:48 PM
Whenever I have been referred to as a Jarhead, I generally refer to them as Faggot (someone who did not serve in the U.S. armed forces), Squid (U.S. Navy), Doggie (U.S. Army), Ass Fart (Air Force, particularly if they are an O -1 through O-3) Coastie (U.S. Coast Guard). The Coasties are generally the coolest of the group and did not mean any harm when they used the term.