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 Why would crushing aluminum cans be illegal in Oregon, Iowa and Michigan?
capnrob97  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:43:08 PM
I am perusing my Harbor Freight catalog, and they have an aluminum can crusher and it says "Not available in Oregon, Iowa, or Michigan"



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SmilingBandit  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:45:17 PM
When you return cans for their deposit in Iowa they have to be in an uncrushed state. This factoid may be relevant.
Maccrage  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:46:46 PM
Oregon used to allow crushed cans to be returned. Not anymore.
john575  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:47:44 PM
We have deposit here in IA 5 cents per can, MI has a 10 cent deposit. Return to store for cash.
Heartkill  [Member]
1/8/2009 1:47:51 PM
Michigan cans must be intact as well. Most of the return machines are automated and they can't read the barcodes if their crushed.
Crowkiller  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:48:23 PM
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
I am perusing my Harbor Freight catalog, and they have an aluminum can crusher and it says "Not available in Oregon, Iowa, or Michigan"





Pre-ban can crusher for sale!!!!


Just kidding, all mine are post ban.
capnrob97  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:48:24 PM
Originally Posted By Maccrage:
Oregon used to allow crushed cans to be returned. Not anymore.


Is that so they can tell the can came from Oregon, and not imported from a state that doesn't charge a deposit?

PUBBOY  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:49:21 PM
For the children...
Maccrage  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:50:55 PM
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
Originally Posted By Maccrage:
Oregon used to allow crushed cans to be returned. Not anymore.


Is that so they can tell the can came from Oregon, and not imported from a state that doesn't charge a deposit?



That, and they went to automated counting machines that can't count crushed cans.

ETA: From the Oregon DEQ, who runs the can and bottle return:

I crushed my aluminum cans, and now the store refuses to take them back. What do I do?
Stores cannot refuse to accept back cans and pay the refund value simply because the cans are crushed. However, if the can is crushed in such a way that you cannot see the brand of container or the Oregon 5-cent refund marking, then the store can legally refuse to accept back the container. If a store refuses to accept back containers as required under the law, you may want to file a complaint with the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, which administers the law (see question #8).

Please be aware that the crushing of cans creates significant problems for the stores and for the beverage distributors. It is much harder for them to handle and account for cans which have been crushed, and the crushed cans will not be accepted by the reverse vending machines. Please do not purposefully crush cans, but instead return them whole and uncrushed to the stores.

SWS  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:51:03 PM
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
Originally Posted By Maccrage:
Oregon used to allow crushed cans to be returned. Not anymore.


Is that so they can tell the can came from Oregon, and not imported from a state that doesn't charge a deposit?


Bingo. A worker at a Sam's Club in Michigan told me they won't take out of state cans.

Avenger069  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 1:55:01 PM
Impossible. The portion of the population that has the cans can't possibly afford a crusher from Harbor Freight.

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schizrade  [Member]
1/8/2009 1:56:19 PM
???

Just sell them for metal weight value, crushed.
philinmedford  [Member]
1/8/2009 2:00:22 PM
Heck, the first time I used the "automated recyclers" here I thought - "uh oh, me and this are not going to work well together". So I came up with a great solution. When I see the price of a 12 pack I auto add the .05 cents a can deposit. So, it costs .60 cents a 12 pack more than what it says. That's how much it costs and big deal, won't break me.

Any cans that survive being taken to the range get donated to a few charities. It's easier for me to drop off the bags of them there than stand in front of those $#%$# machines attempting to put the same can in over and over again.

Works on a number of levels.
gixxer603  [Member]
1/8/2009 2:50:47 PM
So you can't drop rocks into the crushed cans to increase weight when recyling centers determine value by weighing all the cans together?
Never did that as a kid
Lon_Moer  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 2:55:27 PM
fuck that.
We used to have the machines that would only take "uncrushed' cans, and one time I tried to "uncrush" a can to put in the machine and it ended up ripping and it tagged one of my fingers. Ended up with 5 stitches.
schizrade  [Member]
1/8/2009 2:59:10 PM
Originally Posted By gixxer603:
So you can't drop rocks into the crushed cans to increase weight when recyling centers determine value by weighing all the cans together?
Never did that as a kid


Dude, SHHHH!
stud-anowski  [Member]
1/8/2009 3:06:00 PM
I went to college in oregon (Eugene) so we had plenty of cans to recycle after parties. All the recycle places were automatic recycle machines and you had to put one can in at a time. Slowest shit ever... but it would read the bar code on the can and determine if the cans were bought from that store (i.e. Rayle's supermarket recycle center wouldn't accept Safeway supermarket cans). If they weren't from that store chain it would spit them back out at you. So it couldn't read the cans if they were crushed...
Intelguy01  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 3:06:30 PM
Yes, Oregon tries to "force" us to be Green and recycle. Piss on that. I still have a choice to where I toss my cans. They go in the garbage with the rest of the trash. I refuse to stand in line with a bunch of tweakers who have just finished digging through garbage to get cans to cash in for a fix. (Yes, I have seen this multiple times).

It does cost me a nickle per can to fight the system, though.

scrybe  [Member]
1/8/2009 3:13:01 PM
Originally Posted By stud-anowski:
I went to college in oregon (Eugene) so we had plenty of cans to recycle after parties. All the recycle places were automatic recycle machines and you had to put one can in at a time. Slowest shit ever... but it would read the bar code on the can and determine if the cans were bought from that store (i.e. Rayle's supermarket recycle center wouldn't accept Safeway supermarket cans). If they weren't from that store chain it would spit them back out at you. So it couldn't read the cans if they were crushed...


If you lived anywhere near campus, you can just throw them out in the front lawn. The bums are thick in Eugene. All the cans will be gone by morning.
XMM  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 4:12:32 PM
LOL, it's not illegal to crush cans in Iowa. You just can't redeem them for your bloody nickel. Most of mine end up riddled with .22 holes. I'm a criminal!
Special-K  [Team Member]
1/8/2009 4:31:59 PM
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
When you return cans for their deposit in Iowa they have to be in an uncrushed state. This factoid may be relevant.





They're looking to do it with bottled water now in NY.




-K
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