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MRW  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:22:14 AM
I get a frustrated call from my wife, she had absentmindedly dumped a bucket of dirty water in the toilet and flushed without realizing that a washcloth was in the bucket. When I got home I checked with a drain snake and it had apparently gone around the bend, but now the toilet is running real slow. We are on a septic system, and I'm wondering what to do next.

Is it possible to still get it out? Do I put something down the toilet to help dissolve it? Or is it worthy of a call to a plumber?

My rule has always been that only bodily waste and vomit go down the toilet.

thanks
itsARanchrifle  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:23:29 AM
We had to pull the toilet.
bytor94  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:24:47 AM
The snake wasn't long enough?
gsp  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:25:53 AM
Pull toilet first. Wax ring and a little time.
TdK71  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:26:49 AM

Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
We had to pull the toilet.


Yup, ya gotta pull the toilet. Don't use a snake you'll chip the porcelain and ruin the toilet.
slanted  [Member]
9/27/2008 11:28:59 AM
hmmmmm... I'd want to get that sucker out before it goes further along and stops up the whole house.

I think I'd pull the toilet since it probably didn't get that far and you should be able to hook it with the snake.

ether that or get the plunger, run all the water you can and try to wash it along while praying
Pangea  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:30:19 AM
Go rent a long snake from the local rental place, don't forget to buy a new wax ring and mounting bolt kit while your out. Pull the toilet, snake the pipe and reinstall the bowl. Done in time for lunch.
slanted  [Member]
9/27/2008 11:31:19 AM
If you pul the toilet, you will need a new wax ring to reinstall.

it is not that hard, but you'll want to read up in it. The biggest issue is to not over tighten the bolts or you'll crack the sucker.


MRW  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 8:33:58 PM
I've pulled a toilet and replaced the ring before. I've got quite a long snake too. ARe you saying to pull the toilet and snake the drain to snag the cloth and pull it back out or to push it through to the main pipe and let it flush through the system?

thanks.
ApacheScout  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 8:43:04 PM
You do know that under the floor there is a 90* that should have a clean out in it.If you have access to it,it might be easier to snake from there rather than pulling the toilet,unless you had nothing to do.

ETA: they also make a "closet auger" just for snaking a toilet.
My rule of thumb for the terlet is "If you haven't eaten it,It doesn't go in the toilet"
PUBBOY  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 8:45:53 PM

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Go rent a long snake from the local rental place, don't forget to buy a new wax ring and mounting bolt kit while your out. Pull the toilet, snake the pipe and reinstall the bowl. Done in time for lunch.


I'd try this before pulling the toilet up.

It's a PITA.
PUBBOY  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 8:45:53 PM

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Go rent a long snake from the local rental place, don't forget to buy a new wax ring and mounting bolt kit while your out. Pull the toilet, snake the pipe and reinstall the bowl. Done in time for lunch.


I'd try this before pulling the toilet up.

It's a PITA.
billparadise  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:03:33 PM
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
3-gun  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:18:40 PM
Just double flush
Johnny_Reno  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:32:55 PM


If you're on septic, I wouldn't be putting any chemicals down the drain.
DnPRK  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:35:31 PM
You might not have to pull the toilet if there is a cleanout on the drain line. Pull the plug on the cleanout and use the snake from there.
DnPRK  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:37:44 PM

Originally Posted By MRW:
I've pulled a toilet and replaced the ring before. I've got quite a long snake too. ARe you saying to pull the toilet and snake the drain to snag the cloth and pull it back out or to push it through to the main pipe and let it flush through the system?

thanks.

You want to pull it out if possible. Otherwise it could plug up your field lines.
rangermonroe  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 9:39:03 PM
Shop vac.
Dumpster_Baby  [Member]
9/27/2008 9:50:34 PM
One thing that's worked for me many times is to fill a trash can in the bath tub and then pour the trash can into the toilet from as high up as you can lift it. The heavy stream of water blasting down into the hole will usually knock just about anything loose.

JBCHRITZ  [Member]
9/27/2008 10:00:10 PM

Originally Posted By rangermonroe:
Shop vac.


This is actually a good idea.

The toilet is actually (or should be) the smallest section of the drain line until you reach the septic tank. The trap in the toilet (it is built into the pocelain mold) is about 2" diameter while the rest of the line is 3" minimum. I expect the rag is stuck in the trap part way and by shutting off the water and flushing out most you may be able to run a narrow shop vac hose into the trap to get it out.

If that doesn't work you are probably going to have to pull the throne and fish it out from the underside.

Joe
CarbineDad  [Member]
9/27/2008 10:00:26 PM

Originally Posted By rangermonroe:
Shop vac.


This is brillant actually and just might work

If a closest auger doesn't get it, pull the toilet and snake to snag and withdrawl the washcloth. Mmaybe use the shop vac to draw a suction before you snake if it is very close to the hole
MRW  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:30:27 PM
got it

I went to walmart and got a toilet auger and snagged it.

whew, what a stinky brown formerly white washcloth that was!

I hope it doesn't wind up back in the linen closet!


thanks folks,
fxntime  [Team Member]
9/27/2008 11:37:07 PM
Glad you got it out, I was going to suggest flushing a small fishing hook with some SMALL floaties using spiderwire as the line. flush several times to get it down past the cloth, hook it and pull it out.
MRW  [Team Member]
9/29/2008 8:03:48 PM
that's brilliant!


I'd probably hook and old turd instead!

S-28  [Team Member]
9/29/2008 9:41:49 PM

Originally Posted By DnPRK:
You might not have to pull the toilet if there is a cleanout on the drain line. Pull the plug on the cleanout and use the snake from there.


If the short snake didn't get it near the Toilet, it's downstream already.

If you don't have a cleanout port between the exit from the house and the Toilet, get one, and fire up the Sawzall. Reverse snake upstream untill you are sure it ain't there.

If it's downstream of the house already, Get the Garden hose out and keep pushing it to the Tank.

Use your ears. Have somebody flush while you listen. there will be gurgling as water goes past the restriction.

You're in for a smelly, stinky, messy, PITA bit of work.

Long snake even if ya think it MIGHT be in the House line.

Wax ring and pulling the shitter, means you need another cleanout under the shitter.

No time like the present. It WILL happen again.... Don't ask me how I know.

S-28