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Tactical_Jew  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:24:02 AM EST
in the last month or so I have run, or heard of into no less than 4 registered deadly weapons.



1.)a guy I work with has a friend who is 'registered' wit the police because of his black belt and puts people on their backs with a flick of the wrist.

2.) this 17 yr old kid trying to get cozy with my niece is a 'registered' lethal weapon and can;t get into fights at school because he will go to jail.

3.) a neighbor didn't go black belt because he would have to 'register' with the police

4.) a woman I know had a ex who 'registered' by the government le agencies because of his black belt.

why do peope fall for this crap?

Im gonna photoshop registered lethal weapons certificates and hand them out to these type of guys.
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jb241970  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:27:48 AM EST
I train, compete & teach mixed martial arts. I love when guys come in telling us about their "registration". It pretty much guarantee's they don't know shit.
Uhwarrie  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:30:09 AM EST
well i still havent met one who catch the bullets from my registered lethal weapon
Zaphod  [Life Member]
8/5/2008 6:31:04 AM EST
That's funny. I'm a Black Belt* but I'm not registered as a deadly weapon.



















* Six Sigma, Transactional.
Etho  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:31:34 AM EST
I've only ever heard it once andit was pretty funny.
clasky  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:31:36 AM EST
Never heard of that before. Makes me think they are full of shit.
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:33:25 AM EST
Some bullshit never dies.

Where did this originate? Some Steven Seagal movie or something?
MUST be from a movie. These people don't read books.
Windustsearch  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:34:17 AM EST
Too many movies. "Theese hand legiseled rethal weapons!"
4Kilo12  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:34:28 AM EST



General rule:

Anyone who tells you they are a BMF is NOT
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:34:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By clasky:
Never heard of that before. Makes me think they are full of shit.


We had one here try that story recently, said he registered his hands in six precincts or some shit.
GD tore his ass up for at least 5 pages.
locrain  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:34:57 AM EST
Ha...I'm not registered. Who's gonna come for me? The BATFEMA? Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Martial Arts?
ScrinMaster  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:37:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By clasky:
Never heard of that before. Makes me think they are full of shit.


We had one here try that story recently, said he registered his hands in six precincts or some shit.
GD tore his ass up for at least 5 pages.


Bones87, IIRC.
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:37:52 AM EST
One time, a guy was getting his ass handed to him by about 6 little thugs in my store. I and several other of my employees broke it up and kicked the thuglets out, locking the door behind them. The guy had done nothing but cower and cover in the fetal position. I asked him if he was OK. He says, and I quote "I could have killed all those little bastards. (he holds up his hands in fists) See these things? These are registered deadly weapons. I can kill with one punch. I would have gone to jail if I had fought back because I would have killed them all." I just looked at him like . Asked if he wanted me to call the cops. He said no, so I told him it was time to move on...

Farking idiot.

rr
VBC  [Member]
8/5/2008 6:38:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
Some bullshit never dies.

Where did this originate? Some Steven Seagal movie or something?
MUST be from a movie. These people don't read books.



It came from Chuck Norris who is the only man in the world who is required to register his hands and feet as deadly weapons in every city he visits.
osprey21  [Life Member]
8/5/2008 6:38:32 AM EST
My farts could be registered as WMD's.
Archangel1177  [Member]
8/5/2008 6:40:55 AM EST
Yeah I have heard that crap before. Its almost humorous except that I have also seen one of those same people get themselves in trouble and put others in danger by trying to run from the fight they got themselves into.
LGK  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:42:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By osprey21:
My farts could be registered as WMD's.


add a burning match and it could be an IED
V-Match  [Member]
8/5/2008 6:45:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By 4Kilo12:



General rule:

Anyone who tells you they are a BMF is NOT


man, ain't that the ever loving truth.
Tonkaman  [Member]
8/5/2008 6:46:30 AM EST
I think it started with Maxwell Smart or Napoleon Solo in the 1960's. It was pretty funny back then, but now it's retarded.
ZuIu  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:51:48 AM EST
My roomate holds a black belt in Shotokan Karate. Every once in awhile he'll get a tool strolling into his dojo, claiming he's a registered lethal weapon.

After my roomates sensai cleans the floor with the person's face, they claim how they had to hold themselves back or they would have killed them.


Stupid hurts.
444  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:54:38 AM EST
Imagine walking in to some police office and telling them that is what you are there for.
Can I please speak to the person who registers people as being lethal weapons ? I just got in town and am required to register myself as a lethal weapon (there is a national agency that requires it ).


I am afraid I might end up in the same position. I went to the gun show last weekend with the intention of buying a half assed Chinese knockoff of something good but before I got the chance to buy anything Chinese I spent all my money on a Ninja Mind Control course on DVD.
4Kilo12  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:56:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By V-Match:

Originally Posted By 4Kilo12:



General rule:

Anyone who tells you they are a BMF is NOT


man, ain't that the ever loving truth.



Another gem.... arts and sports will leave you broken and battered when attempted to be used on the street
gonzo_beyondo  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:57:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By ScrinMaster:

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By clasky:
Never heard of that before. Makes me think they are full of shit.


We had one here try that story recently, said he registered his hands in six precincts or some shit.
GD tore his ass up for at least 5 pages.


Bones87, IIRC.


Good memory!
iNuhBaDNayburhood  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:57:31 AM EST
I'm a 1st Dan Black Belt, but I'm not 'registered' either...
Tacberry  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 6:57:44 AM EST
Someone posted a story where they saw some mook with a "Tap-Out" shirt wrestle with a Marine at an air show. Tapout said "I'll try not to hurt you." The Marine said "I'd hate to get hurt by you." Then the Marine made the guy tap out 3 times in rapid order.
TinLeg  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:02:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
Some bullshit never dies.

Where did this originate? Some Steven Seagal movie or something?
MUST be from a movie. These people don't read books.




Haven't ANY of you seen Lethal Weapon?!


Best action movie series EVER.
Bama-Shooter  [Moderator]
8/5/2008 7:03:57 AM EST
Does it come with a badge?
Alien  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:05:27 AM EST
It's hilarious that this retarded urban legend is still going around. I remember hearing it when I was in grade school 20 years ago.
manowar669  [Member]
8/5/2008 7:09:26 AM EST
Gee, I'm 6th Dan in Okinawan Karate. I don't remember any official paperwork.
ShortMikeB  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:10:26 AM EST
This guy started all the shenanigans



THESE HANDS ARE REGISTERED LETHAL WEAPONS....
Windustsearch  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:12:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Alien:
It's hilarious that this retarded urban legend is still going around. I remember hearing it when I was in grade school 20 years ago.


It was even more prevalent in the 70s and 80s.
fastmover  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:21:51 AM EST
We had a real Ninja (cause he said so) come into our Dojo last week, he didn't want to roll because he was afraid that he would get into a tight spot use his Ninja stuff and kill one of us. You should have seen the advanced belt interest in getting on the mat with him when we heard that .
4Kilo12  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:24:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Does it come with a badge?



These folks will make you one



readytorock556  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:25:15 AM EST
My hands aren't registered, but my third leg is!!!
ugagrad06  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 7:41:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By locrain:
Ha...I'm not registered. Who's gonna come for me? The BATFEMA? Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Martial Arts?


BATFEMA?!?!?!?!? BATS PLUS FEMA?!?!??! ohh we're fucked!
DangerJ  [Member]
8/5/2008 8:48:05 AM EST
Yeah, there was a punk at my HS that said since he was a Golden Gloves boxer, his hands were registered weapons.

I saw a guy knock him out cold in a street fight. One hit. He talked more BS after that, sadly.
jfrankparnell  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 8:56:03 AM EST
one of my favorite myths.
Justice23  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 8:59:35 AM EST
Not the most reliable of websites.........

Link__________________________________________________________________________________
Not in the Face! Not in the Face!


Debunked: Boxers are required to register their hands as "lethal weapons."

Research has failed to reveal any statutory, regulatory or other requirement that boxers -- or anyone skilled in martial arts -- "register" their hands or any other body part as "lethal weapons" in the U.S., UKoGBaNI, Canada, or any other common law nation. However, a criminal defendant's experience in boxing, karate, or other forms of hand-to-hand combat may be relevant to determining various legal issues.

First, in the United States at least, the question of whether hands (or other body parts) of a boxer, martial artist or any other person even qualifies as a "deadly" or "lethal" weapon depends largely upon how "deadly weapon," "lethal weapon," or "deadly force" is defined (usually by statute, which is then interpreted by the courts). _See,_ _e.g.,_ Vitauts M. Gulbis, "Parts of the Human Body, Other Than Feet, as Deadly or Dangerous Weapons for Purposes of Statutes Aggravating Offenses Such as Assault and Robbery," 8 A.L.R.4th 1268 (1981 and supplements); Christpher Vaeth, "Kicking as Aggravated Assault, or Assault With Dangerous or Deadly Weapon," 19 A.L.R.5th 823 (1995 and supplements). Most statutes have been interpreted to require an object external to the human body before a "deadly weapon" element can be met. For example, in _Minnesota v. Bastin_, 572 N.W.2d 281 (Minn. 1997), the Minnesota Supreme Court overruled the trial court's conclusion that the left fist of the defendant, a former licensed professional prize fighter, was a "deadly weapon."

Some courts in the United States have concluded, however, that a criminal defendant's experience in boxing or martial arts should be considered when deciding whether s/he possessed a required intent to cause harm. For instance, in _Trujillo v. State_, 750 P.2d 1334 (Wyo. 1988), the Wyoming Supreme Court found that there was sufficient evidence to support the defendant's conviction for aggravated assault after he punched someone in the head. His history as a trained boxer was one bit of evidence supporting the jury's findings on his mental state. Likewise, in _In the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F._, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals held that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that the actions of the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," were sufficient to demonstrate his knowledge that he was hitting the victim with sufficient force to break the victim's jaw.

Similarly, a criminal defendant's boxing or martial arts experience may be relevant to determining the validity of a self-defense claim. For instance, in _Idaho v. Babbit_, 120 Idaho 337, 815 P.2d 1077 (Idaho App. 1991), the defendant shot the victim and claimed self-defense. The trial court admitted evidence regarding the defendant's past training and experience as a boxer, concluding that it was relevant to a determination of whether the defendant truly believed it was necessary to shoot the victim in order to protect himself and others. The Idaho Court of Appeals affirmed.

Documented: A criminal defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven.


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HeVGunner  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:01:36 AM EST
Pretty clear the registration part is total BS. Is it true or not that a professional boxer/martial artist could be charged with "assualt with a deadly weapon" for using such knowledge without otherwise being armed?

ETA: NM, see above
john575  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:01:49 AM EST
My wife is a 2x Black Belt, I register her nightly.
ag04blast  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:04:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Justice23:
Not the most reliable of websites.........

Link__________________________________________________________________________________
Not in the Face! Not in the Face!


Debunked: Boxers are required to register their hands as "lethal weapons."

Research has failed to reveal any statutory, regulatory or other requirement that boxers -- or anyone skilled in martial arts -- "register" their hands or any other body part as "lethal weapons" in the U.S., UKoGBaNI, Canada, or any other common law nation. However, a criminal defendant's experience in boxing, karate, or other forms of hand-to-hand combat may be relevant to determining various legal issues.

First, in the United States at least, the question of whether hands (or other body parts) of a boxer, martial artist or any other person even qualifies as a "deadly" or "lethal" weapon depends largely upon how "deadly weapon," "lethal weapon," or "deadly force" is defined (usually by statute, which is then interpreted by the courts). _See,_ _e.g.,_ Vitauts M. Gulbis, "Parts of the Human Body, Other Than Feet, as Deadly or Dangerous Weapons for Purposes of Statutes Aggravating Offenses Such as Assault and Robbery," 8 A.L.R.4th 1268 (1981 and supplements); Christpher Vaeth, "Kicking as Aggravated Assault, or Assault With Dangerous or Deadly Weapon," 19 A.L.R.5th 823 (1995 and supplements). Most statutes have been interpreted to require an object external to the human body before a "deadly weapon" element can be met. For example, in _Minnesota v. Bastin_, 572 N.W.2d 281 (Minn. 1997), the Minnesota Supreme Court overruled the trial court's conclusion that the left fist of the defendant, a former licensed professional prize fighter, was a "deadly weapon."

Some courts in the United States have concluded, however, that a criminal defendant's experience in boxing or martial arts should be considered when deciding whether s/he possessed a required intent to cause harm. For instance, in _Trujillo v. State_, 750 P.2d 1334 (Wyo. 1988), the Wyoming Supreme Court found that there was sufficient evidence to support the defendant's conviction for aggravated assault after he punched someone in the head. His history as a trained boxer was one bit of evidence supporting the jury's findings on his mental state. Likewise, in _In the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F._, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals held that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that the actions of the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," were sufficient to demonstrate his knowledge that he was hitting the victim with sufficient force to break the victim's jaw.

Similarly, a criminal defendant's boxing or martial arts experience may be relevant to determining the validity of a self-defense claim. For instance, in _Idaho v. Babbit_, 120 Idaho 337, 815 P.2d 1077 (Idaho App. 1991), the defendant shot the victim and claimed self-defense. The trial court admitted evidence regarding the defendant's past training and experience as a boxer, concluding that it was relevant to a determination of whether the defendant truly believed it was necessary to shoot the victim in order to protect himself and others. The Idaho Court of Appeals affirmed.

Documented: A criminal defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven.


Version 0.3, last updated: Wed Aug 30 9:25:17 US/Central 2000





You just killed my dreams...thanks alot....
blueinterceptor  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:10:51 AM EST
there is no registration program total nonsense
legalese77  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:12:42 AM EST
I can't get any women to date once they find out I'm unregistered. None of them are willing to be caught in possession of an unregistered destructive device
A-Mart  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:17:02 AM EST
First degree in Tae Kwon do here and I've never heard of this 'registration'. If I go and get registered do I get a nice little badge and ID card that says I'm a registered lethal weapon?
texasaggie  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:18:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By blueinterceptor:
there is no registration program total nonsense


Actually....

Hand Registration Program





































ALPHAGHOST  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:18:52 AM EST


someone should create badges for these guys and sell em!
ArmyInfantryVet  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:19:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By jb241970:
I train, compete & teach mixed martial arts. I love when guys come in telling us about their "registration". It pretty much guarantee's they don't know shit.


+1
iNuhBaDNayburhood  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:23:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By texasaggie:

Originally Posted By blueinterceptor:
there is no registration program total nonsense

Actually....
Hand Registration Program


OMG! WTF? BBQ!
Chris94L  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:24:09 AM EST
Some kid told me last week his hands were registered...I ALMOST laughed in his face. I was able to keep it in though.
ArmyInfantryVet  [Member]
8/5/2008 9:30:55 AM EST
When i was in 9th grade my cousin and one of my friends from elementary wanted to beat each other up. Anyway my old friend tells me about his friend who is so awesome at martial arts his hands were registered as lethal weapons. Too bad I didn't know better back then.
4Kilo12  [Team Member]
8/5/2008 9:36:46 AM EST




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