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Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 5:51:12 PM
A friend & I were talking about boats today & the conversation ended up with us talking about making a pontoon boat out of 55 gallon barrels.

Has anybody here on ARFCOM done this?
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ScaryBlackGuns  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 5:52:15 PM
This is a perfect start of your cover story for an Obama presidency. Good job!!!
Brians_45  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 5:53:33 PM
Non-motorized? Sure.

Motorized? Take video. I need a laugh.
Cypher15  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:01:22 PM

Originally Posted By Brians_45:
Non-motorized? Sure.

Motorized? Take video. I need a laugh.

if the drums are welded together and nose cones/hydrofoil built it could work very well.
Silence  [Member]
7/18/2008 6:03:47 PM
Fill the drums with foam.
sherm8404  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:04:07 PM
[mom]And just where do you plan to go in this pontoon boat of your mister?[/mom]
Hawken50  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:08:21 PM
we had to do for boy scout camp or some such. the trick was, we had to do it while in the water.

i'm sure the scout leaders had a good laugh.
man_of_few_words  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:09:14 PM
hawaii
SeanTX  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:09:57 PM
I saw one of these several years ago.

It looked like a bunch of barrels welded together with a deck thrown on top of it....that is to say like hammered shit. But hey, go ahead and build one. Second the previous posters thought on foaming the barrels.

Take this to the lake and you can use the money set aside on condoms for more beer!
22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:11:08 PM
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them
3-Phase  [Member]
7/18/2008 6:13:01 PM
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done. Mildly funny video also.
abnormal  [Member]
7/18/2008 6:13:49 PM

Originally Posted By Silence:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.
GR8TWYT  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:15:38 PM
Around here they're called "docks"
Keith_J  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:18:46 PM

Originally Posted By 22bad:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most. But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.
Grimjaw5  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:19:54 PM
Junkyard wars did a few of them.

RyJones  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:20:59 PM
I ask that you buy barrels that were used for foodstuffs. Not for some enviroweenie reason - welding on a drum that's held hydrocarbons is just plain stupid. You need to back-flush it with steam while you're welding, blah blah blah.

You could also get the large olive drums. We use them to store AN at the shoot - they're plastic and would last a lot longer in the water than metal.
FMJshooter  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:21:21 PM

Originally Posted By 3-Phase:
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done. Mildly funny video also.


LOL some classic one liners.

"If we had balogna during the Civil War we woulda won."
BUCC_Guy  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:24:52 PM
Eh, we've made rafts out of kegs, and were shitfaced doing it. (It was a wonderful opportunity brough upon us by Hurricane Ivan.)


I'm sure a pontoon boat, put together sober, is more than doable.


- BG
Flashman  [Member]
7/18/2008 6:26:42 PM
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike
the_ak_kid  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:28:20 PM

Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
A friend & I were talking about boats today & the conversation ended up with us talking about making a pontoon boat out of 55 gallon barrels.

Has anybody here on ARFCOM done this?



It was on an old episode of junkyard wars about 2 weeks ago...


I didn't stick around for the end result. We watched whos line is it anyway instead.
TexTJ209  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:29:19 PM



Forest  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:29:55 PM

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most. But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.


Use plastic 55gal barrels then .

Get them from Coke & Pepsi bottling plants.
22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:31:32 PM

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most. But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.


I've got a couple that I was thinking about making a bbq pit with
but, they've taken some rust from being outdoors for a few months

I could start collecting them and painting them with something to
delay their rusting If I had some sort of a design plan to work with

Preferably a design that would allow for the EASY replacement of rusted drums
22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:32:59 PM

Originally Posted By Forest:

Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most. But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.


Use plastic 55gal barrels then .

Get them from Coke & Pepsi bottling plants.


I can probably get the metal ones(in pristine condition)for free
Keith_J  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:37:13 PM
Stainless are used in the wine industry...
MikeJ77  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:38:26 PM
This is one of those "Hold my beer and watch this!" moments.
krpind  [Life Member]
7/18/2008 6:40:33 PM

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Stainless are used in the wine industry...


Stainless bbls are used for nitric acid too.

15 years ago the deposit was $350/bbl.

It is probably $500 now.

Beer kegs would be cheaper than ss bbls.



ETA Plus a barge made out of beer kegs would be the ultimate redneck barge.



I own page 2 of the redneck barge thread.

Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:55:35 PM

Originally Posted By Cypher15:

Originally Posted By Brians_45:
Non-motorized? Sure.

Motorized? Take video. I need a laugh.

if the drums are welded together and nose cones/hydrofoil built it could work very well.


We're planning on some sort of nose on the pontoons, a little trolling motor & mabye a 5 or 10 hp putt-putt motor.


Originally Posted By abnormal:

Originally Posted By Silence:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.


I think packing peanuts dissolve in water.

We're planning on the 2 part rosin that expands into foam.


Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 22bad:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most. But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.


I can get all the steel ones I want for free.

And I guess we'll just have to keep an eye on the paint.


Originally Posted By RyJones:
I ask that you buy barrels that were used for foodstuffs. Not for some enviroweenie reason - welding on a drum that's held hydrocarbons is just plain stupid. You need to back-flush it with steam while you're welding, blah blah blah.

You could also get the large olive drums. We use them to store AN at the shoot - they're plastic and would last a lot longer in the water than metal.


They all had corn oil in them.
TexTJ209  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:58:14 PM

Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:


Originally Posted By abnormal:

Originally Posted By Silence:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.


I think packing peanuts dissolve in water.

We're planning on the 2 part rosin that expands into foam.



Most dissolve in Acetone, not water. But there are some that dissolve in water, to be eco-friendly. Just make sure you get the right kind
Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:58:15 PM

Originally Posted By MikeJ77:
This is one of those "Hold my beer and watch this!" moments.


22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 6:59:03 PM

Originally Posted By Flashman:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?
Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:00:33 PM

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Stainless are used in the wine industry...


Stainless bbls are used for nitric acid too.

15 years ago the deposit was $350/bbl.

It is probably $500 now.

Beer kegs would be cheaper than ss bbls.



ETA Plus a barge made out of beer kegs would be the ultimate redneck barge.



I own page 2 of the redneck barge thread.



I'm putting that in the title!
Lister  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:07:23 PM
A guy did that in Iowa with all his shop tools and saved his own business. Good thinking.
Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:28:03 PM

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By Flashman:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?


From what I've been able to find out, an average 55 gallon drum has 7.35 cubic feet of volume.

We're thinking of using 8 barrels. SO, 8 X 7.35cu ft = 58.8cu ft. I found a kit for 40cu ft for $260. I fugure that will be enough to keep a rusty barrel from sinking. But that works out to $32.50/barrel.

Our origional idea of using expanding foam is sounding like it wasn't such a good idea. There's gotta be a cheaper way.
Thumper45  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:37:19 PM

Originally Posted By sherm8404:
[mom]And just where do you plan to go in this pontoon boat of your mister?[/mom]
Hawaii
BIGMITCHBAKER  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:39:43 PM
This has T.B.A. all over it.
GreyGoose  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:43:01 PM


3-Phase  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:47:01 PM
MNGuns  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:53:09 PM
Do you really need to foam the barrels...? If they are in fact sealed, the air alone should provide enough bouyancy (in theory). With multiple barrels welded together you would have a safety factor as each would be seprated from the other. Had I a source for barrels, I'd challenge you to a junk yard war...
ASUsax  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:56:48 PM
tag on the Redneck Barge thread. Could be epic.
Ben70  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:57:33 PM
Want real, expert advice?

Ask some recent Cuban ex-pats.
Gone_Shootin  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 7:59:17 PM

Originally Posted By 3-Phase:
www.theloudpedal.com/uss_methlab.jpg


OH yeah, I forgot about that one. What was the name of that thread?
Fireguy3  [Member]
7/18/2008 7:59:21 PM
It has and can be done, used to be lots of them in my AO in lakes.
Tomtbo  [Life Member]
7/18/2008 8:00:57 PM

Originally Posted By Ben70:
Want real, expert advice?

Ask some recent Cuban ex-pats.



100%
DernHumpus  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:02:41 PM
Definitely foam the barrels. They are bound to leak, especially after you weld them.
PaDanby  [Member]
7/18/2008 8:16:14 PM
One of the Boy Scout troops in my town put a few together and would take them to the Colorado River and go on float trips with them. Usually had at least 2 power boats around to keep them out of too much trouble.
monstercat79  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:20:39 PM
can a plastic barrel be used?
i can get them for free and they come in many differnt colors (blue, white, black...)
svtfast  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:24:42 PM

Originally Posted By 3-Phase:
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done. Mildly funny video also.


OMG "If we would of have bologna during the civil war we would of won"

22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:41:02 PM

Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By Flashman:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?


From what I've been able to find out, an average 55 gallon drum has 7.35 cubic feet of volume.

We're thinking of using 8 barrels. SO, 8 X 7.35cu ft = 58.8cu ft. I found a kit for 40cu ft for $260. I fugure that will be enough to keep a rusty barrel from sinking. But that works out to $32.50/barrel.

Our origional idea of using expanding foam is sounding like it wasn't such a good idea. There's gotta be a cheaper way.


Maybe there's a better deal on foam somewhere
22bad  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:45:04 PM

Originally Posted By GreyGoose:


It's got a sundeck, bedroom, kitchen, bathroom\shower
(it just needs an add-on mini-garage for a motorcycle)
MNGuns  [Team Member]
7/18/2008 8:48:42 PM

Originally Posted By DernHumpus:
Definitely foam the barrels. They are bound to leak, especially after you weld them.



Not a welder are you....
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