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 Military TDY across country, Fly or Drive?
1911greg  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:07:42 PM
I dont mind driving but i am kinda worried that with the cost of gas the travel people will just pay me the cost of a 300$ plane ticket and I will have to eat the cost of the drive/hotel rooms.

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crurifragium  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:08:58 PM

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I dont mind driving but i am kinda worried that with the cost of gas the travel people will just pay me the cost of a 300$ plane ticket and I will have to eat the cost of the drive/hotel rooms.



Anybody else going? carpooling pays off.
Cross_Steel  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:10:45 PM
Fly. Airports are a hassle but so is automobile traffic. Kicking back on an airline flight is a lot more relaxing than playing road warrior.
packinheavy  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 1:12:13 PM
For me it matters how long I will be gone and if I will need a vehicle there. Rentals are seldom approved for me when I go.

A week for training, I fly. A month for training, I drive. Six months for a stateside activation, definitely drive.
1911greg  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:13:45 PM

Originally Posted By Cross_Steel:
Fly. Airports are a hassle but so is automobile traffic. Kicking back on an airline flight is a lot more relaxing than playing road warrior.





WHAT?? BUT I JUST CLEANED MY double barrel and got my new leather suit.
1911greg  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:14:57 PM
so how much do you get for going 2500 miles? and back?
Hrd2thecore  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:19:52 PM
The typical rate is .455 a mile.

But if you are Army and going to school, the new DTS TDY system limits the mileage costs of your TDY to equal a .GOV contract airline ticket. So if they can book a flight for $350, that is your mileage cap.

They are really cracking down on TDY. Long gone are the days when you could rack up 6 grand for BNCOC. I am in school for 6 months, with 1200 miles of POV travel each direction, and my total TDY estimate is a whopping $1500.
halloween78  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:25:09 PM
Depends on if you can do without a vehicle.

I was ordered to reclass while we were at JRTC via AKO, had 3 days notice upon my return to get orders cut and get gone.

I packed up and rolled 1900 miles each way, because there was no way I was going to be without a vehicle for 4 months.

It was a miracle the thing made it, 214,000 on the odometer, the headgasket blew after it's last trip to the east coast a few months after I got out of school and ETSed.
1911greg  [Member]
12/11/2007 1:48:40 PM

Originally Posted By Hrd2thecore:
The typical rate is .455 a mile.

But if you are Army and going to school, the new DTS TDY system limits the mileage costs of your TDY to equal a .GOV contract airline ticket. So if they can book a flight for $350, that is your mileage cap.

They are really cracking down on TDY. Long gone are the days when you could rack up 6 grand for BNCOC. I am in school for 6 months, with 1200 miles of POV travel each direction, and my total TDY estimate is a whopping $1500.


How do you get the TDY estimate?
Hrd2thecore  [Member]
12/11/2007 2:09:58 PM
If your unit is using DTS (Defense Travel System) orders, the orders show every expense authorized. Mine are 10 pages long and break down mileage, per diem by day (every single day for 6 months is displayed), in and around mileage if authorized, rental car if authorized, etc.

I have not used a 1610 for for TDY in so long I cannot remember if it shows the total trip estimate.

The DTS system also lets you log on and file electronic travel vouchers, and gives you a bar coded printout to fax in your receipts. It takes a little bit to get used to.
72coupe  [Member]
12/11/2007 2:27:54 PM
When I was in the Army, TDY travel time was very limited. They only gave you 24 hours to get anywhere in CONUS. Pretty much limited you to flying on the more distant places.
dport  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 2:33:41 PM
It is my understanding that if they order you to fly they'll pay you for the plane ticket and if you drive you'll have to eat any additional costs.

Come to think of it, I do believe DTS has it in its program to determine what is the cheaper route and to deviate from it you have to get permission. Hell, I used to go TDY 150 miles away. DTS wanted me to get a plane ticket and I used to have to get permission to drive.
limaxray  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 2:34:14 PM

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
How do you get the TDY estimate?


DTS will do the work for you. As for mileage, there's a .mil website under DFAS that has official DoD mileage from/to any base or city in the country. That's the mileage they base payment off of, so it doesn't matter what detours you make or corners you cut, you'll get paid that mileage, and you'll be given travel per diem for that mileage divided by 350 miles/day. If that cost exceeds the cost of an airline ticket, you'll get the cost of the airfare. Rental cars are almost always coming out of unit funds nowadays, so you'll have to talk to whoever holds/approves your unit checkbook to see if they'll spring for it.

AF rules seems to be if it's longer than 3 weeks they'll reluctantly pay for it, less than that and you'd better bring a good pair of shoes.
limaxray  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 2:44:10 PM
Another option I've used--if the TDY is close enough, we got a GSA vehicle and drove it there. The .gov paid for gas, wear/tear on vehicle is covered already, and I got a vehicle to use while I was there--and it was still cheaper than flying from Cheyenne, WY to Great Falls, MT.
sms5183  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 2:48:14 PM
If it is going to be much more than a week and a rental car is not authorized I drive. Even trying to spend my per diem I have always made money.
illini52  [Member]
12/11/2007 2:48:38 PM
If you don't mind putting miles on your vehicle, driving is good for a number of reasons.
1. You will probably make some money on the trip
2. You can sightsee on there way to wherever the TDY is.
3. When you are at the TDY location, you will have a vehicle.

As someone already said, if it is a short TDY, flying is probably best, however longer than that you may want your car. Save your lodging receipts. Some I think already said it, but if it is cheaper for the govt to fly you there, usually thats what your orders will say. My last 2 long TDYs I drove and am really glad I did. Both were more than 800 miles.
MarkNH  [Team Member]
12/11/2007 3:08:08 PM
Train?

cluster  [Member]
12/11/2007 3:13:28 PM

Originally Posted By Hrd2thecore:
The typical rate is .455 a mile.

But if you are Army and going to school, the new DTS TDY system limits the mileage costs of your TDY to equal a .GOV contract airline ticket. So if they can book a flight for $350, that is your mileage cap.

They are really cracking down on TDY. Long gone are the days when you could rack up 6 grand for BNCOC. I am in school for 6 months, with 1200 miles of POV travel each direction, and my total TDY estimate is a whopping $1500.


YAHOO.. in before the caps!!! < and out now.. >


ah those were the days...

cmdrstask  [Member]
12/11/2007 4:26:41 PM

Originally Posted By Hrd2thecore:
The typical rate is .455 a mile.

But if you are Army and going to school, the new DTS TDY system limits the mileage costs of your TDY to equal a .GOV contract airline ticket. So if they can book a flight for $350, that is your mileage cap.

They are really cracking down on TDY. Long gone are the days when you could rack up 6 grand for BNCOC. I am in school for 6 months, with 1200 miles of POV travel each direction, and my total TDY estimate is a whopping $1500.


$0.485, not $0.455.
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