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 Neighbor, laser sights, and laws.
Gwiz  [Member]
7/10/2007 3:51:19 PM EDT
My neighbor that lives directly next to me is one of the nicest guys I know. He's 80 years old and he works out in his yard basically every day. It is his pride and joy, and you can tell he puts a lot of heart and work into it. His wife used to be the only person that did the yardwork and she kept it looking beautiful. He feels it's his duty to not let her down and to keep it in the best looking shape he can make it. Here lies the problem.

The neighbor that lives next to him (and 2 doors down from myself) is a complete jerk. He complained because my neighbor has a 40 watt yard light that he leaves on in his front yard ever since his wife passed away. The bad neighbor, (whom we shall refer to Bob, no offense to any Bobs out there), complains that the light keeps him up when he's asleep. He says it travels inthrough his kitchen window and comes into his bedroom (which his bedroom is down the hall, after 2 90 degree angles....light can bend?) Among other things, my neighbor has a pine tree that occasionally drops pine cones on Bob's yard. Bob will pick up the pine cones and throw them over the fence at my neighbor and into his yard when he's cleaning and laugh at him. Bob will also stop in front of my good neighbors house and rev his motorcycle engine for a good 5 minutes when the good neighbor is working outside in his front yard. The other day the good neighbor (we'll call Smith) was working in his garage at night painting some things for his yard, and Bob kept shining a spotlight into Smith's garage window from Bob's front yard. We've tried settling it nicely but to no avail.

Lately things have been getting worse. I was leaving my house one day and when pulling out of the driveway our neighbor was pulling into the court I live in. I rolled down the window and we were talking for about 30 seconds when I notice a red laser light coming through my back window and aiming basically at the back of my seat (only way I saw it is because it hit my rear view mirror). Then it moved over to the front of my neighbors chest and we decided it best that we just drive away. I do know he has several firearms (which I could care less if my neighbors have firearms, they don't fire themselves.) Which I believe he has a laser scope attached to. This incident has happened several times now since then which has been a couple of weeks ago. Both my neighbor and my family and I are too scared of the repercussions of calling the cops. We do think that he would go crazy and shoot us all. He only has a couple of years to live (due to complications of diabetes) and I don't know what he's capable of. If I was going to call the cops I would want no chance of him coming after my neighbor or my family.

So the questions...if a person points a gun at someone in Michigan as an intent to threaten, does anyone know the punishment for it? I don't know if it's that severe or not. Also is there anything against the law about pointing a laser pointer at someone (I don't think so but I thought I would ask.)

The last question...what else can I do? I currently live at home with my parents and go up to school every fall-winter and I worry about my family and neighbor being at home.

Sorry for the long winded post, it's just something that has been really bugging me and I don't know where to ask. I appreciate your time for reading this lengthy post and thank you before hand for any information you might have to help my neighbor, my family, and I out.
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Primos  [Member]
7/10/2007 3:53:49 PM EDT
Telemachus  [Team Member]
7/10/2007 3:55:58 PM EDT
This is not a tag.
Bama-Shooter  [Team Member]
7/10/2007 4:01:33 PM EDT
Pointling lasers at people is illegal in some states.

Check your states laws.

As to the yard light, nothing he can do.
Motorcylce revving, could be disturbing the peace, video/audio, laws vary by state.
Spot lighting, could violate casting light laws, spot lighting, etc. laws vary by state.
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UmpaLumpa  [Member]
7/10/2007 4:06:18 PM EDT
First of all it is very possible that he was just pointing one of those laser pointers. Even if he wasn't he could easily explain it to the cops that was what he was doing.
Really the only thing you can do is to start video taping said neighbor. Get some evidence and you could get him for harassment.

You could always do things to annoy him back too. If he is constantly in your "good neighbors" yard set up a scare crow.

Make it as much of a pain in the ass for this guy to pull shit like that on your "good neighbor" Buy a locking gas cap for your "bad neighbors" car/truck/whatever and break a blank key saw toothed key in there, or fill the lock with glue.

Lots and lots of things you could do :)
justinwb  [Team Member]
7/10/2007 4:07:20 PM EDT
Damn thats a tough situation. One of the biggest things that bugs me are people that take advantage of and are assholes to old people.
myitinaw  [Team Member]
7/10/2007 4:19:59 PM EDT
10 years ago, around mid-night or so, while exiting my vehicle in an apartment complex I was tagged by a laser dead on my chest. I instantly hit the deck. I stayed flat chested for about 2 mins, then I heard snickering and chuckles to my West, about 25 yards away. A group of "urban-youth" you can read the inference, on a second floor balcony were yelling at me to get up, they were just "fucking with me" etc....
I was not amused!!!
I called a friend, whom was a local PD LEO, for advice. He asked if I had seen them point a gun at me? I said no. That I was tagged with a laser, but I never saw a firearm.
Long story short.. in 1997 pointing a laser wasn't illegal, but if I had seen a firearm
with a laser pointed at me, then they [urban youth] would have been in deep shit.

Gwiz  [Member]
7/10/2007 4:25:56 PM EDT
I just don't want to do things back to him and have things escalate and have him come over and do something that may involve in death or injury. He is a very crazy guy and I don't trust him not to do something violent. Thanks for the help though everyone. Good ideas here! Thanks!
pv74  [Team Member]
7/10/2007 4:26:27 PM EDT
I would knock on his door and tell the little asshole to stop acting like a 5 year old kid...

Don't people grow up
justice23  [Member]
7/10/2007 4:28:32 PM EDT
Pointing a laser at someone is disorderly conduct here.
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