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 So I broke the gas pump hose at the gas station a while ago..
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:28:19 PM
[Little help / rant / vent here]

I'll see if I can make this short.

Blah blah.. I went to the gas station, pulled up to the pump, got out and told the jockey "$10 of 87 please" and proceeded to hand him two $5 bills when he said "You have to pay inside." I was like "Ok". He goes over to the pump punches in $10 throws the nozzle in the truck and starts pumping. I walk inside and stand in line for a good 10 minutes. Get up to the register and said "$10 on pump #5" He takes the money says I am done and have a nice evening. I walk back out the the truck and the pump jockey gives me a smile and a nod. I said "Thanks" got in the truck where the wife and two kids were waiting, wife hands back my cell phone. I shut the door, threw on the belt, started the truck, put it in first gear and pulled forward.

Next thing I hear sounded like a bowling ball hit the rear of the truck. I stopped, got out and the first thing I noticed was the hose swinging at the pump with no nozzle. I walked around the the other side of the truck and said.. "What the fuck..." The pump jockey ran over and grabbed the hose that was laying on the ground, I got in the truck and backed it up to the pump, got out and the pump jockey said "I'm sorry" I said "Shit happens" as I was looking for damage on my truck. He gets on the radio asking for someone to come out and inspect the hose and that I need to fill out paperwork. Then turned to me and said "It's my fault". So here comes Mr. Fix it (whatever his position was, most likely another pump jockey on break) with the board and pen that has the "paperwork" which was the old credit card carbon paper receipt and demanded that I give him my insurance information. I said "The fuck you are going to get any information with that attitude and you are not going to write that on that carbon paper you call paperwork. Besides (points finger) he said it was his fault that he didn't remove the nozzle, the manager inside said I was done." (Yeah I know, I should have checked and yes "I" drove off and damaged it.. Anyways). So I get the "Give me your insurance card now!" I said "You are not getting it. How much is the fucking hose?" He said "Uh.....*pause*" I jumped in and said "No Uh's and don't think up a price, get on the phone with a manager, general manager, and find out." He said "I don't have the number" I said "Go get it then" Then I get the smart ass reply "What do you want to talk with the owner?" I said "If it needs to be then yes. go get on the horn."

At this time the manager came out of the store with his digital camera and took a picture of the hose and walked around the side of the truck to see if there was any damage then took a sneaky pic of my license plate. So pump jockey #2 says "He won't give me his insurance" I jump back in and said "How much is the fucking hose for the last time!" He turns to the manager and asks. The manager gets on the phone and calls someone talks with him for about two minutes and while he is on the phone looks at me and says "$150.... no wait... $100" He gets off the phone and says, I don't want to deal with the police or insurance go get back to work. All this time I got the wife and two kids in the car (5 years old and the other is 3 weeks) I said.. "Fine, I need to go they are waiting, I'll get you the $100, you write up a description and give me a receipt with your name amount and paid in full for the damage to the hose." He complied with that, so I pulled $100 from the ATM he wrote down the info, I was satisfied with his efforts, I took the ink copy, handed him is fucking 100 bucks said "Sorry" and walked out the door.

Looked at the pump and it said "$6.54" I walked back in and said "Can I get the remainder of the gas or can I have my change?" so I went back out to the truck, #1 jockey said pull over to pump #6, I get in the truck, put it in gear and look out the side mirror. Holy shit.... Pump jockey #2 wrapped the hose from #6 and shoved it in the truck. I was about a second away from yanking this one out too. I get out of the truck and just looked at him like he was a fucking moron, watched him take the nozzle out and hang it up. I got in the truck and went on my way.

*sigh* Did I do right or wrong?

CWO  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:32:56 PM

Originally Posted By -RotorDemon-:
*sigh* Did I do right or wrong?


Do you mean in driving away with the gas pump nozzle still in your car?
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:34:31 PM

Originally Posted By CWO:

Originally Posted By -RotorDemon-:
*sigh* Did I do right or wrong?


Do you mean in driving away with the gas pump nozzle still in your car?


No.. dealing with the situation.
LArifleMAN  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:34:52 PM
I think that whole "someone else has to pump your gas" crap in OR is exactly that crap.

There was no way in hell you were in the wrong, it was jockey #1s fault. I sure as hell wouldn't have given them $100 though.
MrMojoRising  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:36:24 PM
Who doesn't pump their own gas?

I didn't think a full service station even existed anymore.


greener556  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:36:25 PM
So read 'em up and stick 'em
Pump that fucker good
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:37:57 PM

Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
Who doesn't pump their own gas?

I didn't think a full service station even existed anymore.




In Oregon by law you cannot pump your own gas (Exception for card lock users)
staraero  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:38:04 PM
Shouldn't have paid.
MrMojoRising  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:39:14 PM
Oh wait. You're one of those states that won't let you pump your own gas?


I've heard of that before but didn't believe it.


Fucking crazy, and in that case I wouldn't have paid for shit. Call the manager, the Police and OPEC for all I care. The nanny state attendant didn't do his .gov appointed duty and replace the petroleum transfer unit into it's proper receptacle. Fuck 'em.
DoubleFeed  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:39:40 PM
Take a real good look at what's happening here.
Oregon prohibited self service because the common driver can't be trusted to handle the liquid explosives that power the automobile. Only trained professionals can be permitted to handle pumping gas.
Pump Jockeys are trained professionals. They will handle everything correctly.
Slimjim  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:41:02 PM
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, incase this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isnt damaged, you shouldnt have had to pay anything.
allenNH  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:42:33 PM

Originally Posted By -RotorDemon-:

Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
Who doesn't pump their own gas?

I didn't think a full service station even existed anymore.




In Oregon by law you cannot pump your own gas (Exception for card lock users)


Same in NJ. It is, they claim, to help with JOBS. Full service = gas jockeys out of work.

I'm the only one here that I know of professional enough to handle the Exxon foh-tay.
Primos  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:43:20 PM
Soooooo what if it's 3am, and you need gas?

Do you just NOT get gas?

Wait for the morning?

Or is there a 24 hour attendant?

Weird.

-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:44:54 PM

Originally Posted By Slimjim:
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, incase this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isnt damaged, you shouldnt have had to pay anything.


Right, I know this. But I inspected the hose myself and I tore the vapor return portion so in essence that would have to be replaced.
OSUBeaver  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:45:20 PM
Don't they have those break away things anyway. I was at one in Clackamas and some chick drove off (same scenario as yours). She got out of her car crying and freaking out. The stoner dude attendent said "It's cool... It's cool... and plugged it back in.

ETA Never mind read the above
AZ-K9  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:46:13 PM

Originally Posted By Slimjim:
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, incase this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isnt damaged, you shouldnt have had to pay anything.


+1 . Ive seen enough retard cops drive off with them still in the tank, it's no big deal. I would have never paid that.
HABU  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:46:57 PM
Why would you screw yourself like that?
Treadhead  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:48:47 PM


I did the same thing about 10 years ago rushing back from a gun show.

My then GF wanted me at her place PRONTO and I jumped into the neat little '318 I was driving then and made a complete ASS of myself in front of everyone when I shot out of there dragging the hose behind me
mattja  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:49:02 PM
I don't think I would have paid.
silentsod  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:49:06 PM
This is a common prank at gas stations, unfortunately hilarity did not ensue.
Smitty59  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:49:21 PM
AFAIK The hose and pump handle are designed to break away ( for just this kind of event) and can be re-attached fairly easily. Sounds like you got "hosed" for $100.

I saw this happen at a gas station in WV. Husband starts the pump, and goes into the store. Wife suddenly decides to pull up and yanks the hose off of the pump. I was on the other side and thought someone hit my truck, the noise was so loud.

Gas guy came out and said it was no big deal. Even though the gas station guy was not too upset, the husband was really pissed at the wife. It was quite comical.

Edit for speling
clement  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:50:05 PM

Originally Posted By Slimjim:
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, in case this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isn't damaged, you shouldn't have had to pay anything.


Yeah I thought they had a quick disconnect on them too because of the potential of people doing that. I would have waited for the cops and not given them a cent....especially if the guy said that it was his fault. It's quite a load of crap that the guy tried to rip you off on gas in the first place....I would have been SUPER pissed.
Gamma762  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:50:28 PM
Move out of OR or get them to change the "no self serve" law.
That's probably a bit harsh. Unintended consequense of the "no self serve" law there in OR. You get stuck dealing with pump jockeys. Although full service makes it their responsibility IMHO.

ETA: +1 on the breakaway/quick disconnect things. No problem to reconnect them. You got "hosed" on the hose
Bandit117  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:50:52 PM
DRAW DOWN . . oops wrong thread

you should have just kept rolling
atomicferret  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:50:58 PM

Originally Posted By Primos:
Soooooo what if it's 3am, and you need gas?

Do you just NOT get gas?

Wait for the morning?

Or is there a 24 hour attendant?

Weird.



What do you need gas for at 3am, you should be home asleep in your bed. Sounds like you are up to no good, mister.
Greenhorn  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:53:18 PM
People in OR and NJ must be absolute morons, because here in the free states a full-service station is as rare as an honest politician, and we don't have any problems.
Treadhead  [Team Member]
11/21/2006 11:53:30 PM

Originally Posted By clement:

Originally Posted By Slimjim:
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, incase this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isnt damaged, you shouldnt have had to pay anything.


Yeah I thought they had a quick disconnect on them too because of the potential of people doing that. I would have waited for the cops and not given them a cent....especially if the guy said that it was his fault


WHOA!

I didn't see the part about being CHARGED for it!

When it happened to ME the kid just re-attached it (The hose) and gave me the.."You're an idiot!" look. They ARE designed to break-away for just that reason.
GoVol98  [Member]
11/21/2006 11:54:19 PM
Hey, ain't that RotorDemon's truck over there?





BURN  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:01:32 AM
I did that once drove away and broke the line took it into the manager and said how much....

his reply "its a cheap fix like an 8 or 9 dollar piece of hose and I'm insured" "don't worry about it"

....I think you got "Hosed"
Crowcreek  [Member]
11/22/2006 12:08:04 AM

Originally Posted By staraero:
Shouldn't have paid.


No, I wouldn't have either. I would have told the guy to wipe his ass with the paperwork, and keep the change.

Those hoses are made to break away, and the Oregon pump-monkey law is a farce.
DoubleFeed  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:09:50 AM

Originally Posted By -RotorDemon-:

Originally Posted By Slimjim:
So, hes charging you 100 bucks, for a simple pin that they have extra of?

Those nozzles are held in by a pin in a quick disconnect, incase this happens, so that they break away, all they have to do is insert a new pin into the quick disconnect and its fixed. as long as the hose itself isnt damaged, you shouldnt have had to pay anything.


Right, I know this. But I inspected the hose myself and I tore the vapor return portion so in essence that would have to be replaced.
I'd be okay with that. Somebody else has their finger prints on the nozzle. It is THEIR fault.
MrMojoRising  [Member]
11/22/2006 12:10:05 AM
Ok, next one who makes a "you got hosed" joke gets a face full of 87 octane.
Tolip  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:14:07 AM
"Self Serve" is a wonderful thing
clement  [Member]
11/22/2006 12:17:30 AM

Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
Ok, next one who makes a "you got hosed" joke gets a face full of 87 octane.


Schulze  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:21:44 AM

Originally Posted By Treadhead:


I did the same thing about 10 years ago rushing back from a gun show.

My then GF wanted me at her place PRONTO and I jumped into the neat little '318 I was driving then and made a complete ASS of myself in front of everyone when I shot out of there dragging the hose behind me


And I was embarrassed about the time I left the station with my gas cap hanging off like a set of old man balls (ref Jackass 2). This makes me feel much better. Thanks, Treadhead!
DVDTracker  [Dealer]
11/22/2006 12:24:08 AM
I snapped this driving by the gas station one day.

1Andy2  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:25:46 AM
Why is it your fault?

Hey, you live in a State that made it illegal for you to pump your own gas. It takes an expert, right? Well the trained professional gas jockey screwed up. He had one job to do and one job only. And he failed. His fault. Not yours.

Of course, if you lived in any other State, I'd nominate you for the Blond of the Week award.

Treadhead  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:27:00 AM

Originally Posted By Schulze:

Originally Posted By Treadhead:


I did the same thing about 10 years ago rushing back from a gun show.

My then GF wanted me at her place PRONTO and I jumped into the neat little '318 I was driving then and made a complete ASS of myself in front of everyone when I shot out of there dragging the hose behind me


And I was embarrassed about the time I left the station with my gas cap hanging off like a set of old man balls (ref Jackass 2). This makes me feel much better. Thanks, Treadhead!


Well, you DO know that you never screw-up unless there are witness'.

It's a law of nature
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:30:03 AM

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Why is it your fault?




Because I drove off while it was still pumping. I don't understand 10 minutes for $6.54 worth of gas. Thats a slow ass pump.

Guess my excuse was I'm fucking stressed with alot of shit right now and the last thing on my mind was to see if the nozzle was placed back. Murphy's law: The one time you don't check, something will happen.
1Andy2  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:39:36 AM

Originally Posted By -RotorDemon-:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Why is it your fault?




Because I drove off while it was still pumping. I don't understand 10 minutes for $6.54 worth of gas. Thats a slow ass pump.

Guess my excuse was I'm fucking stressed with alot of shit right now and the last thing on my mind was to see if the nozzle was placed back. Murphy's law: The one time you don't check, something will happen.


Dude, repeat after me.

"eez not my yob!"

You could have bought like 3/4 of a case of wolf with that c-note!
Shasta_Doug  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:43:19 AM
They don't need break-away hoses in OR becuase there are trained monkeys responsible for using them. Thus the hoses will never break.
NwG  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 12:50:52 AM
While you can reconnect the break-aways, by law (in CA at least) they must be replace.. They are made to break away and stop the flow of gas.. After that the vapor recovery system has to be tested and the nozzle must be gauged to be sure it is still in specs..

The reason they get all uppity (they were way too uppity) is it is a federal issue.. Anything to do with gas has both state and fed regulations.. Drive away with a pump nozzle and it is possable the feds will come after you (but extreamly unlikely, like never)

The break-aways cost between $100-175 the nozzle is ~$150-300 depending on the vapor recovery system.. The hose is about $75..
Ndenway  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 1:00:13 AM
hell man, that shit happens all the time, thats why stations have the break away hoses on their pumps, its like a $15 coupler that gets replaced,

I drove off from 7/11 with one once, when I noticed it flapping on the side of my truck, I turned around and took it back to the station,

offered to pay and the cashier told me they had insurance on the pumps to cover the replacement/repair cost.
Tonster  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 1:01:39 AM
I did the same thing in Memphis years back...
In a hurry pumped a few bucks..jumped in the car and drove off...I heared some crazy sound and looked back...the handle was pulled off and gas was a flowing.
I hate to admit it but I kept going
Melvinator2k0  [Member]
11/22/2006 1:06:30 AM
you should have denied everything and made counter accusations


(from my favorite arfcom quote)
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 1:09:02 AM
Yeah thinking twice about it if it wasn't a busy intersection and I was 10 years younger, I would have bailed and kept the nozzle/hose for a souvenir

I got "Hosed".. I tried to do right and paid for damages done.
sonoftaroman  [Member]
11/22/2006 1:15:30 AM

Originally Posted By NwG:
While you can reconnect the break-aways, by law (in CA at least) they must be replace.. They are made to break away and stop the flow of gas.. After that the vapor recovery system has to be tested and the nozzle must be gauged to be sure it is still in specs..

The reason they get all uppity (they were way too uppity) is it is a federal issue.. Anything to do with gas has both state and fed regulations.. Drive away with a pump nozzle and it is possable the feds will come after you (but extreamly unlikely, like never)

The break-aways cost between $100-175 the nozzle is ~$150-300 depending on the vapor recovery system.. The hose is about $75..



And don't forget my time (labor and travel)to go out there and replace the parts.
DoubleFeed  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 1:17:20 AM

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
you should have denied everything and made counter accusations


(from my favorite arfcom quote)
Full:
Admit Nothing.
Deny Everything.
Make Counter Accusations.
-RotorDemon-  [Team Member]
11/22/2006 1:19:06 AM

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
you should have denied everything and made counter accusations


(from my favorite arfcom quote)
Full:
Admit Nothing.
Deny Everything.
Make Counter Accusations.


AH!!!!!.. I want to go back there now and start shit.
WA_PeaceOfcr  [Member]
11/22/2006 2:13:16 AM
I did the exact same thing in my patrol car at the end of a long, long shift. I figured it was going to be a huge deal. I went to the manager of the place and told him what happened and he could file a claim to the city for the repair. He smiled and walked me into a back room where he had a milk crate of about 5 other nozzles that were broken in the same way.

He told me to fix it would cost about $18.00 and to have a better day. Obviously, it didn't concern him in the least and he never filed a claim.

Sorry man, you got hosed. Big Time. And now that you have "settled" the matter on your own, outside the law, it is a civil problem, not a criminal one. Your next step is to an attorney, not the police and not the insurance company.