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 WHAT IS THE BEST CIVILIAN ASSAULT RIFLE?
Scarecrow  [Member]
8/29/2001 3:51:30 PM EST
I say its ZM weapons LR 300. What do you consider the best civilian assault rifle that has ever been on the market? [img]http://www.gunsmagazine.com/0301Ftr/Ftr4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.gunsmagazine.com/0301Ftr/Ftr5.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.tetragon.ca/Lone300mlgf.gif[/img]
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djenkins  [Member]
8/29/2001 3:55:15 PM EST
The MAS 49/56 is nice for the money. Dennis Jenkins [quote]Originally Posted By Scarecrow: I say its ZM weapons LR 300. What do you consider the best civilian assault rifle that has ever been on the market? [img]http://www.gunsmagazine.com/0301Ftr/Ftr4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.gunsmagazine.com/0301Ftr/Ftr5.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.tetragon.ca/Lone300mlgf.gif[/img][/quote]
raf  [Site Staff]
8/29/2001 4:02:37 PM EST
Excuse me, but your pic shows a weapon that is marked "Gov't Use Only". How can this be the best civilian assault weapon?
fight4yourrights  [Member]
8/29/2001 4:03:23 PM EST
Anything but an AR-15. They are crap, obviously. Have you ever even handled one of these, let alone shot it? Or did it just look 'kewl' and had a great magazine writeup? I think I'd like to see some more real life experience with the weapon and try it myself before declaring it the World's Best Civilian Assault Rifle.
Gun Guru  [Member]
8/29/2001 4:08:48 PM EST
The AK-47 semi clone, reaches 0ut to 400 yards easy, requires less maintnance and is a rip roarin' killing machine.I beleive it beats the M4 hands down, but the 20" is a different story. GG
VA-gunnut  [Site Staff]
8/29/2001 4:14:39 PM EST
I am not going into this gun is better than that gun debate. In my opinion the best civilian assault rifle would have to be any of the AK clones. The reason I say this is that they are extremely reliable, easy to repair if necessary, affordable, and the ammo and mags are cheap. This is why so many countries choose this weapon. They can give it to anyone and have a reasonably armed person. This is the kind of rifle that is simple enough for the civilian population to learn how to use quite easily.IMHO
hielo  [Member]
8/29/2001 4:18:54 PM EST
Whatever rifle you have andy with enough ammo to kill what needs killing. If you get locked into one tool, you justmightlose sight of the absolute expendability of that tool.
SGB  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 4:23:33 PM EST
[img]http://www.duhspot.com/users/smiley/s/contrib/sarge/BoomSmilie_anim.gif[/img] [i][b]"If you don't have the biggest gun, your penis will be jealous"[/i][/b] sgb[}:D]
Wasted-life  [Member]
8/29/2001 4:29:47 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By hielo: Whatever rifle you have andy with enough ammo to kill what needs killing. Amen.
Scarecrow  [Member]
8/29/2001 4:32:05 PM EST
First off, Most AR's I get from the US have LEO trash on them or on the box, aslong as it isnt full auto its legal here, also makes for a conversation at the range. 2nd, I own a LR 300, If I could afford myself a web cam after still being in dept paying for registration of all my guns and my new Camry I would post some pictures. I will tell you that the LR 300 is damn expensive but worth every Canadian peso I paid for it, the recoil is (I personnaly find) less then a normal AR15 and it holds in with most loads at 1" at 100 yrds. I have the 16" barreled version and I'm planning on getting a 11" and getting rid of my AR10T to pay for it.
7  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 4:47:29 PM EST
M16 Assult Rifle definition = fully automatic
killingmachine123  [Member]
8/29/2001 5:19:28 PM EST
I will take an ar with a 20" barrel any day.
chipo  [Member]
8/29/2001 5:46:44 PM EST
OKAY I'm biting [V] "civilian assault rifle" Flames a comin'... Is this question in-line with the "PC" definition? I don't believe a "civilian assault rifle" exists. The 2nd ammendment doesn't differentiate...maybe 20th / 21th century differentiation exists.... I don't know. Anyway, my opinion is that "assault" rifle is in the eyes of the politician. If we try to define assault rifle, we might as well define assault knife, assault rock, etc.. We should be more careful how we phrase our questions. I believe the question is actually...What is your definition of the "best" weapon available to the public....
Scarecrow  [Member]
8/29/2001 5:54:46 PM EST
Alright people! [size=6][b]CIVILIAN'ized COMBAT READY RIFLE[b][/size=6]
chipo  [Member]
8/29/2001 6:01:59 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Scarecrow: Alright people! [size=6][b]CIVILIAN'ized COMBAT READY RIFLE[b][/size=6][/quote] Don't have to yell, I just meant that we don't need to pull the anti's on... As far as a CCRR goes, actually I was impressed with the ZM recently, prompted me to get into AR collecting. Personally, I haven't seen a more capable rifle.[B)]
LARRYG  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 6:20:15 PM EST
These military style, semiautomatic rifles are Sports Utility Rifles,or [b]SUR[/b], not assault rifles.
AFARR  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 6:20:24 PM EST
OK, My opinions: 1. SIG 550 Close seconds-- Steyr AUG, FNC, HK 93, AR-15
w00dy  [Member]
8/29/2001 6:25:54 PM EST
[B][size=6]SPORT UTILITY RIFLE[/size=6][/B]
a2car  [Member]
8/29/2001 6:34:14 PM EST
Huuuuum? well it looks like the AR is the best. lets look at what we have here:onw guy says m-16 one guys lr 300 and even the ar-10 came up and they all come from the ................AR! If not you better tell that to EVER army on earth with any money cuz they use them,not just America.
BusMaster007  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 6:36:15 PM EST
DSA Carbine.
Buster  [Member]
8/29/2001 8:14:04 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By raf: Excuse me, but your pic shows a weapon that is marked "Gov't Use Only". How can this be the best civilian assault weapon? [/quote] Did you notice the three position selector as well. Not quite what I would call a civilian weapon, which is real shame because it would probably be a ton of fun to hunt varmints with.
GUNSAP  [Member]
8/29/2001 8:39:06 PM EST
GUN'S ARE BAD AND CIVILIAN'S DONT NEED THEM THINGS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YA ALL !
sgtar15  [Member]
8/29/2001 8:47:01 PM EST
Scarecrow, i was wondering if you could possibly post a larger picture of the ZM?? I have a hard time seeing the pores in the mettal-Thanks[;)] sgtar15 PS I love my AR, but would take an AK in .223 over it anyday for a SHTF situation.
alexanderredhook  [Team Member]
8/29/2001 8:50:40 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By Buster: [quote]Originally Posted By raf: Excuse me, but your pic shows a weapon that is marked "Gov't Use Only". How can this be the best civilian assault weapon? [/quote] Did you notice the three position selector as well. Not quite what I would call a civilian weapon, which is real shame because it would probably be a ton of fun to hunt varmints with.[/quote] Z-M Weapons does sell an upper assembly without the lower. You know... You can buy the upper and put a post ban lower on it. They also sell a sporter version that has a bastardized thumbhole grip. [url]www.zmweapons.com[/url] Alex
NoSheep  [Member]
8/29/2001 9:13:41 PM EST
An assault rifle is a select-fire weapon capable of full auto,or three round bursts. It isn't available to most civilians. ZM makes fine weapons, but it won't do anything my Bushy won't do.(In civilian form.) For close-up work, the best choice is a 12 ga.
AR18  [Member]
8/29/2001 9:20:36 PM EST
FNC
DonS  [Member]
8/29/2001 9:23:59 PM EST
That peep sight must work real well mounted on the front of the receiver . . .
a2car  [Member]
8/30/2001 11:37:00 AM EST
DonS, you can't the the peep cuz it's covered by the lil. red dot.
Erasmus  [Member]
8/30/2001 12:48:30 PM EST
The best civilian assault rifle (that I've tried) is a "brand new" 1953 No. 4 Enfield. MK VII ball rocks. "Steady on, lads."
MIerinMD  [Member]
8/30/2001 4:09:39 PM EST
[quote]Originally Posted By djenkins: The MAS 49/56 is nice for the money. Dennis Jenkins quote] I knew a Dennis Jenkins back in Michigan. Worked at a hospital. You ever been to MI?
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