AR15.Com Archives
 1919A4 Blows Up and Man Injured
TacticalStrat  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:32:20 PM

Big Caution On The Turkish 8mm Surplus Ammo Being Sold



From 1919A4.com Today:

Link

Well..... broke in my 1919 in more ways than one. put about 200+ rounds of turk thru then BAMMM. bent topcover and gas came shooting out in backplate trigger plate slot also a piece of brass. It hit the middle of my pelvic girdle and traveled off to the right about 3-4 inches in and now sits over my hip joint. After a trip to ER and a Cat scan they advised me it would be ore of a hassel to get it out since it didnt hit anything vital. Went right through the arterial canal. LOL... anywone ever hear of crap ducting through the backplate trigger hole????
roboman  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:34:22 PM
Turk 8mm is some bad juju. Loaded extremely hot but inconsistant. I'd shoot it through my Mauser and be lucky to get 3-5 shots off in succession before the bolt with be held closed from the heat and pressure
TacticalStrat  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:42:29 PM

Originally Posted By roboman:
Turk 8mm is some bad juju. Loaded extremely hot but inconsistant. I'd shoot it through my Mauser and be lucky to get 3-5 shots off in succession before the bolt with be held closed from the heat and pressure




I went with .308 for my 1919 because there is just too much 8mm garbage out there. There is at least one guy a week on 1919A4.com blowing up his 1919 because he used junk 8mm surplus ammo. After you factor in that all the 8mm barrels are aftermarket, and most of them are made from sub-quality metal, and that they're in the $200-$250 price range (compared to $45 for New-In-Wrap REAL IMI chrome lined .308 barrels), it just doesn't make much sense to have a 8mm 1919A4.
Matthew_Q  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:45:00 PM
Dang, I thought only Glocks went Ka BOOM!
Partisan  [Member]
4/21/2006 2:45:10 PM

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
(compared to $45 for New-In-Wrap REAL IMI chrome lined .308 barrels), it just doesn't make much sense to have a 8mm 1919A4.



Where can I get one for that $$ ?
TheRedHorseman  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:49:04 PM

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Dang, I thought only Glocks went Ka BOOM!



it was a glock 1919 of course
Brian_in_Pullman  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:51:15 PM

Originally Posted By Partisan:

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
(compared to $45 for New-In-Wrap REAL IMI chrome lined .308 barrels), it just doesn't make much sense to have a 8mm 1919A4.



Where can I get one for that $$ ?



www.coledistributing.com/

The excellent (90%) barrels that are 3/100 are very nice, I have three of them.
TacticalStrat  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:52:20 PM

Originally Posted By Partisan:

Originally Posted By TacticalStrat:
(compared to $45 for New-In-Wrap REAL IMI chrome lined .308 barrels), it just doesn't make much sense to have a 8mm 1919A4.



Where can I get one for that $$ ?




Cole Distributing---See bottom of page. I ordered 7 of the 98% condition barrels, and 5 of the 7 were brand new still sealed in the wrapper (they only guarantee them to be 98%). The other two were mint and appeared unused (but the wrapper was cut). These are IMI manufacture and chrome lined. Top notch military contract quality. The best there is for a 1919.

Link

1919a4 (.308) barrels, excellent plus conditon (98+%)
#BAR02D Size 1

Price: $44.95
1919a4 Barrels, Caliber 308(7.62x51mm Nato)Excellent Plus,(98+%) Slightly used, Very minor handling wear. ***PRICE DOES NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING AND HANDLING***
BookHound  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 2:56:08 PM
Thanks, TacticalStrat, for posting.
CZ75_9MM  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 3:01:41 PM
Wow they got some good prices on those kits there too. I might have to get one of those.
sWs2  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 3:06:15 PM
I've got to say the Turk has been known to be fairly low quality for a while now, in fatc I havent seen it for sale anywhere in a while either.
TacticalStrat  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 3:16:02 PM

Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:
Wow they got some good prices on those kits there too. I might have to get one of those.




I have been throughly satisfied with everything I have bought from Cole's. I also purchased a WWII dated M2 tripod from Cole's that was much better than what he described it as.
Napoleon_Tanerite  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 3:19:45 PM
those pesky glock 1919's....... if JMB designed it, this never would have happened
adair_usmc  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 3:20:28 PM

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Dang, I thought only Glocks went Ka BOOM!



it was a glock 1919 of course



+1
The_Beer_Slayer  [Moderator]
4/21/2006 3:21:08 PM
i ended up with a case of that junk in a trade. It was supposed to be yugo but turned out to be turk. I am betting he had a setback bullet. someof the tipos were so loose on this stuff you push the bullet in the case with a fingertip. I ended up pulling the bulletts, evenng the powder charges and recrimping the bulletts.

Turk is GARBAGE AMMO!!!!
cruze5  [Team Member]
4/21/2006 10:37:40 PM
don't drink the water don't shoot the ammo
ArmyAirborne  [Team Member]
4/23/2006 11:26:17 AM

Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:
Wow they got some good prices on those kits there too. I might have to get one of those.



Go to Ohio Ordnance Works, www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Misc/50cal%20Part%20Set.htm. Same price but you get the sights too. The 299.95 kits are said to be a great value. Check out 1919a4.com for the latest word on best kits and best prices. Cole's is the place for tripods right now though.