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Boom_Stick  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:05:25 AM
Want to know how the dark forces of the world distract us from how we should think and act?
Ever wonder what the power behind pop culture is? Read on.....



Managing the Male Sex Drive

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
August 08, 2004

At age 12, in 1961 I saw the movie Spartacus.

In one scene the camera focuses on Kirk Douglas' face as Jean Simmons sheds her gown. His face is full of wonderment and awe, lighted by the mystical glow seeming to emanate from her naked body.

The scene made a profound impression on me, a boy just entering puberty.

Our pagan (a.k.a. "modern") culture programs us to worship sex in the form of the fertile young female.

Sex is considered the most pleasurable and profound experience life has to offer and possession of the nubile female the greatest gift.

I subscribed to Playboy and devoured nudes with Kirk Douglas-like adoration. Henceforth I judged females primarily on the basis of sex appeal; all others were invisible. I also equated sexual desire with love, and love with religion. In essence, I became dysfunctional.

This subversive verse from Paul Simon's "Kathy's Song" (1965) became the anthem of my generation:

"So you see I have come to doubt/ All that I once held as true/ I stand alone without beliefs/ The only truth I know is you."

We were taught to be "alienated" from society and to seek fulfillment in romance. Uprooted from our true historical and spiritual context, we were told life is meaningless: find it in sex.

"An erotomania is abroad through our civilization," Francis Parker Yockey wrote in 1948. It is "the identification of 'happiness' with sexual love, holding it up as the great value, before which all honour, duty, patriotism, consecration of Life to a higher aim, must give way." ( Imperium, 297)

This message has not changed and it is pervasive. The pagan goddess is used to sell everything from cell phones to insurance. In one commercial, she says, "even I get constipation" as if she were supernatural.

As if this weren't enough, lately she has become an Amazon warrior anxious to avenge centuries of imagined oppression. As result, she is either frostily unapproachable or a demanding pleasure-seeking slut.

These factors have poisoned male-female relations. We are fearful and cannot form a permanent bond. Many men have turned to pornography, which has become a multi billion-dollar industry and national pastime.

PROCREATION OR RECREATION?

In Plato's Republic Socrates says that when he finally lost his sex drive in old age, he felt as if he had been " released from the jaws of a wild beast."

Despite what we are told, I don't think sex is intended to be a lifelong obsession. It is part of the courtship and procreation phase. We are meant to marry young, have children and outgrow sex to some extent. We were intended to focus our energy on more compelling things.

For men, the goal is to control our sex drive rather than to be controlled by it (or by women.)How do men do this if they cannot find a compatible mate ?

Obviously most masturbate and many use pornography as an aid. Most men would be thinking of nothing else if they didn't relieve the pressure in this way.

But, as a sensible teenager said to me recently: "If I need to look at pictures, well then I don't really need to do it." His focus is on managing his sex drive not on dissipation. By masturbating every few days, he can be "cool" with girls.


HARD CORE PORN: THE UNDEFINED HATE CRIME


If a pipe were spewing untreated sewage into our streets, we would stop it. But hard-core pornography does this on a psychic level on a much larger scale, and somehow we are helpless.

A swastika graphitti or the epithet "nigger" are considered "hate crimes" yet every day millions of men receive offensive email offers to extend their penises or watch 14-year-old Sue get sodomized. That is considered "free speech."

Hard-core porn is anti human. But anything that is prohibited assumes an undue importance. I'd rather curious males investigated and were disgusted and bored.

There is a difference between hard-core porn, which is tedious and sick, and tasteful female nudity, which can be a temporary substitute.

The key is to grow beyond it. The temporary substitute should not become a permanent one. It should not interfere with finding a mate.

Pornography makes us see women in purely sexual terms and obviously this affects how we treat them and how they respond to us.


ANOTHER OPTION

When men dehumanize women, we dehumanize ourselves.

Men and women are demeaned when they seek sex merely as physical release. Let's face it. Most of us have been demeaned.

This is the goal of the New World Order, which centres on the question: Is human life sacred or are we merely animals? The New World Order wants to prove we are cattle so we can be herded, enslaved or slaughtered.

The Resistance begins at home. Attack the programming head on. Let's stop looking at women as sex objects. Let's humanize sex by insisting that it belongs in a loving long-term male-led relationship.

The sex act is the sacred ritual of creation. The man plants his seed, which contains his essence, his genetic code. The woman receives and nourishes this seed into a creature capable of knowing God.

Let's look for compatible mates rather than sex partners. This would save us a lot of hardship, rejection and wasted time. Women would instantly become more approachable and available.


SUBLIMATION

Being human is a spiritual discipline. It means holding our behaviour accountable to our ideals and evolving morally. Let's catch ourselves when we look at women lasciviously. There is a difference between that and admiring their sex appeal, beauty and grace.

Holding ourselves accountable requires will power. We are the product of our thoughts. The thought is father of the deed. We must control our thoughts and the stimuli we allow.

One acquaintance doesn't masturbate very often. "Why stoke the fires?" he says. He keeps his mind off sex and focuses on more exciting pursuits.

This is called sublimation. The prodigious American writer Upton Sinclair (1878-1968) wrote in his Autobiography (1962):

My chastity was preserved at the cost of much emotional effort�What did I get in return for this? I got intensity and power of concentration; these elements in my make-up were the product of my effort to resist the tempter.

I learned to work fourteen hours a day at study and creative effort because it was only by being thus occupied that the craving for woman could be kept out of my soul. I recited the Wisdom of Solomon: "he that ruleth his spirit is greater than he that taketh a city." (p. 46)

According to Sinclair, and many religions, the energy goes right to the spiritual bottom line:

"Imagine anyone wanting a lot of money or houses and servants or fine raiment if he knew how to be happy as I did! Imagine anyone becoming drunk on whiskey if he might become drunk on poetry and music, sunsets and valleys full of clover!" (56)


CONCLUSION

Sexual pleasure is nature's way of making sure we propagate; it is not an end in itself. That's another modern hoax.

As anyone with some experience knows, sex is highly overrated. The same applies to the female body, which has become stale from overexposure.

The masculine sex drive is a powerful creative force but It needs to be controlled and steered. We can do this by applying and then releasing the brake (sublimation). Every man is different and must find his own formula.

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.

Slavery begins with the mind. We can resist by not being controlled by sex.

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Lumpy196  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:12:52 AM
Amen
dpmmn  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:16:28 AM

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Amen




+1
slash-5  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:18:24 AM

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Oh, my.


Boom_Stick  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:28:46 AM

Originally Posted By slash-5:

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Oh, my.





I know it sounds a little out there, but if you understand the Bible, Lucifer himself is ruler of this world for the time being. God allows it.
Whether it be bankers (money root of all evil), secret societies, whatever...satan uses honest people to do his work, and they're fooled into believing that they are doing mankind a service.
Dave_A  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 3:34:44 AM

Originally Posted By slash-5:

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Oh, my.





It's those blasted Brits tryin to take over the world again...

Now where's that foilhat smilie I was tryin to get added?
1Andy2  [Member]
8/9/2004 3:52:10 AM
women today are defective.

A hooker only costs 100-200 bucks.

A wife can cost you Half or more of whatever you own, or will ever earn.
M38  [Member]
8/9/2004 5:08:28 AM
Sexual represion also creates problems.
OFFascist  [Member]
8/9/2004 5:08:53 AM
Sounds like a load of BS.
leelaw  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 5:19:32 AM
I got to a few lines past the red part and instantly knew what the rest was going to be. Bunk.
MMcCall  [Member]
8/9/2004 7:55:24 AM

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
women today are defective.

A hooker only costs 100-200 bucks.

A wife can cost you Half or more of whatever you own, or will ever earn.



Remember kids, you don't pay a hooker for sex.. you pay her to leave afterwards.


Originally Posted By M38:
Sexual represion also creates problems.



They're called 'priests'.

Cypher214  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 8:07:44 AM
drache  [Member]
8/9/2004 8:20:44 AM
Interesting read. Can't say I totally agree with the author, but interesting none the less.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
8/9/2004 8:30:24 AM
LOL run Henry Makow Ph.D. though Google, he's a "Lonegunman' tinfoilhat guy that thinks that the US is secretly controlled by communists (didn't know there were any left, Castro maybe?) and that the Illuminati and/or Jews and/or secret bank financiers are secretly controlling everything (damn Illuminati hid my keys this morning! )

I guess he has a kernal of truth there that relationships often revolve around sex initially but won't last if that's all there is to it. I don't think his call to chastity is normal or beneficial v. having a normal healthy sex life.

I will not speak of the Illuminati, AS I DARE NOT!
John_Wayne777  [Member]
8/9/2004 8:40:51 AM
Okay. Let me clear some stuff up.

Firstly, Sex is God's idea. He created it for more than mere procreation. The Song of Solomon says:

" Behold, you are fair, my love!
Behold, you are fair!
You have dove's eyes behind your veil.
Your hair is like a flock of goats,
Going down from Mount Gilead.
2Your teeth are like a flock of shorn sheep
Which have come up from the washing,
Every one of which bears twins,
And none is barren among them.
3Your lips are like a strand of scarlet,
And your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
Are like a piece of pomegranate.
4Your neck is like the tower of David,
Built for an armory,
On which hang a thousand bucklers,
All shields of mighty men.
5Your two breasts are like two fawns,
Twins of a gazelle,
Which feed among the lilies. "

This is in the Bible, folks.

God meant for men and women to enjoy the bodies of their mates, and the physical union of sex.

The problem is that what God created in purity and holiness, humanity has twisted into perversion. God never meant for men to lust after everything in a skirt. He never meant for women to value themselves so little that they would allow themselves to be reduced to pieces of meat. He never intended for sex to be a commodity, traded and exchanged like other goods and services.

God created sex to be a thing of beauty inside a covenant relationship filled with love. It has become something altogether different.

Sex is an enormously powerful force in human beings, and the desire for a mate is a PERFECTLY NORMAL DESIRE. But this deep longing for intimacy that both sexes truly crave has been twisted into a merely physical desire for sexual gratification, which when achieved outside the realm of true intimacy is indeed over-rated.

Sex is a huge trap for many of us. Traditional double standards for boys and girls (boys who score a lot are studs, girls are sluts. That is just plain silly...) hasn't helped any.

The problem is not sex. It is our improper understanding about sex that makes us wrong. Just as someone can be a slave of sex, they can go from that extreme to the other, of thinking sex to be somehow bad.

Sex is not a bad thing. It is perfectly normal and acceptable and encouraged by God in the proper context:

"3Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does." 1st Corinthians 7

None of this excuses fornication, adultery, pornography, etc. God never meant for us to be slaves to lust. Some people, because of the level of their temptation, go to the opposite extreme. These people can never shake the idea that sex is "dirty" because of how they allowed the world to shape their opinion of sex. These people mean well, but they put up stumbling blocks.

Sex between a man and woman who have made a covenant with each other is a God-ordained act that has His approval. This is a truth that some people simply cannot accept because their former sins about sex are brought back up in thier mind and they are again convicted of something God has already forgiven. This is a work of Satan, not of God.

This is why we need to renew our minds with the Word.

So long as we keep a truly Biblical (meaning the whole Bible, and not just a few isolated verses...) view on sex, we will be fine.


hielo  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 8:44:40 AM
The Pagans always get the short end.
John_Wayne777  [Member]
8/9/2004 8:50:20 AM

Originally Posted By hielo:
The Pagans always get the short end.



Unfortunately I have seen more sexual purity in some places full of "pagans" than I have in many "christian" churches.

My grandfather was a minister for 50 years. One sunday night fairly early in his ministry, he went to pastor a new church and noticed that many of the members went downstairs for an unspecified reason. They did this for the first two weeks.

On the third Sunday night my grandfather put aside all meekness and went down to see what was going on.

Turns out they were wife-swapping IN THE CHURCH. At that point, my grandfather lost it and threw every one of them out of the church.

These weren't new converts. They were deacons and teachers.

Sad.

This is proof that church membership and even holding a position in the church does not equal salvation. There are many people in this world who will ride a church pew straight to hell.
Hokie  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 8:51:32 AM
[Full Metal Jacket] If I'm gonna get my ass blown off for a word....then MY word is POONTANE [/Full Metal Jacket]
Paul  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 8:56:20 AM
As a Buddhist I am a "pagan" and our religious does not support or encourage pre-marital sex of any sort - including touching or kissing. If more people followed the "pagan" rules of Buddhism you'd have far less gambling, drugs, sex, and violence.
hielo  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 8:57:11 AM

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By hielo:
The Pagans always get the short end.



Unfortunately I have seen more sexual purity in some places full of "pagans" than I have in many "christian" churches.

My grandfather was a minister for 50 years. One sunday night fairly early in his ministry, he went to pastor a new church and noticed that many of the members went downstairs for an unspecified reason. They did this for the first two weeks.

On the third Sunday night my grandfather put aside all meekness and went down to see what was going on.

Turns out they were wife-swapping IN THE CHURCH. At that point, my grandfather lost it and threw every one of them out of the church.

These weren't new converts. They were deacons and teachers.

Sad.

This is proof that church membership and even holding a position in the church does not equal salvation. There are many people in this world who will ride a church pew straight to hell.



I can not speak for anyone else on the earth, but I can speak for myself, 25 years of marriage and have never strayed, and to be completely frank, even if it makes me seem strange, although I have more than my share of oppurtunity, the temptation never has arisen.

I beleive that people who fool aroundon their spouse are searching for something, be it something that their religion lacks, or something that they percieve their spouse lacks. I am happy to say, neither my spouse, nor my religion are lacking for anything.
SS109  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 9:03:19 AM
As a Darwinian, I beleive the opposite. Those who are not horny and fertile will become extinct.

It just makes sense to plant your seed in nubie young women if you want to propogate the line. All you sexually repressed people will be coming to the end of your lines.
Jarhead_22  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 9:29:36 AM
It's a well know fact, sonny Jim, that there's a group of the five wealthiest people in the world known as the Pentaverate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers. They meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion known as, the Meadows. So who's in this pentaverate, you ask? The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds and Col. Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes, and that smug look on his face, Oh your gonna buy my chicken, Ooohh.
DriftPunch  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 9:31:14 AM
Sounds like someone wants to return to the Victorian era! Sex is part of humanity, always has been, always will be!

It's his problem if he thinks sex somehow makes humanity 'unclean', as if there is some nobility in self denial. This makes me remember how that 20 something cut his balls off for lent last year...
Treadhead  [Member]
8/9/2004 9:32:50 AM

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Oh, I hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes, and that smug look on his face, Oh your gonna buy my chicken, Ooohh.



ROTFLMAO
Jame_Retief  [Member]
8/9/2004 9:39:13 AM

Originally Posted By SS109:
As a Darwinian, I beleive the opposite. Those who are not horny and fertile will become extinct.

It just makes sense to plant your seed in nubie young women if you want to propogate the line. All you sexually repressed people will be coming to the end of your lines.




But you seem to fail to realize that fewer Darwinians are actually reproducing . . . remember that abortion is far more acceptable in secualr society than in religious society. You may play more, but we have more children.

Jame Retief
Hokie  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 9:40:50 AM

Originally Posted By Jame_Retief:

Originally Posted By SS109:
As a Darwinian, I beleive the opposite. Those who are not horny and fertile will become extinct.

It just makes sense to plant your seed in nubie young women if you want to propogate the line. All you sexually repressed people will be coming to the end of your lines.




But you seem to fail to realize that fewer Darwinians are actually reproducing . . . remember that abortion is far more acceptable in secualr society than in religious society. You may play more, but we have more children.

Jame Retief



...as do lemmings
u-baddog  [Member]
8/9/2004 11:03:46 AM

As anyone with some experience knows, sex is highly overrated. The same applies to the female body, which has become stale from overexposure.


Spoken like a Closet HOMO.
John_Wayne777  [Member]
8/9/2004 11:47:28 AM
Sex done the right way is not over-rated.

This is the symptom of someone who has an unscriptural guilt complex because of past sexual sin.
Shane333  [Member]
8/9/2004 12:51:58 PM

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
It's a well know fact, sonny Jim, that there's a group of the five wealthiest people in the world known as the Pentaverate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers. They meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion known as, the Meadows. So who's in this pentaverate, you ask? The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds and Col. Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes, and that smug look on his face, Oh your gonna buy my chicken, Ooohh.



How can you hate "The Colonel"?
Shane333  [Member]
8/9/2004 12:57:20 PM
I think sex is one of the most wonderful things God gave us the ability to do. So wonderful and sacred that it is intended to be used only within the holy bounds of matrimony.

However, within marriage, sex not only fulfills the need for reproduction but can also be a powerful bonding experience between man and wife. It can also be a romping good time for the couple.

In my opinion, sex should be a frequent activity between man and wife. Sometimes gentle, sometimes wild, but always respectful and loving.
hielo  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 12:59:58 PM

Originally Posted By Shane333:
I think sex is one of the most wonderful things God gave us the ability to do. So wonderful and sacred that it is intended to be used only within the holy bounds of matrimony.

However, within marriage, sex not only fulfills the need for reproduction but can also be a powerful bonding experience between man and wife. It can also be a romping good time for the couple.

In my opinion, sex should be a frequent activity between man and wife. Sometimes gentle, sometimes wild, but always respectful and loving.



Uh, what about the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of years before the invention of marriage? Evolution gave us a big brain, part of that big brain made sex fun, use it.
Shane333  [Member]
8/9/2004 1:03:28 PM

Originally Posted By hielo:

Originally Posted By Shane333:
I think sex is one of the most wonderful things God gave us the ability to do. So wonderful and sacred that it is intended to be used only within the holy bounds of matrimony.

However, within marriage, sex not only fulfills the need for reproduction but can also be a powerful bonding experience between man and wife. It can also be a romping good time for the couple.

In my opinion, sex should be a frequent activity between man and wife. Sometimes gentle, sometimes wild, but always respectful and loving.



Uh, what about the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of years before the invention of marriage? Evolution gave us a big brain, part of that big brain made sex fun, use it.



What? You mean before Adam and Eve? Look, if you want to be the descendent of apes, so be it. I'm a child of God.
DriftPunch  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 1:04:59 PM

Originally Posted By Shane333:
However, within marriage, sex not only fulfills the need for reproduction but can also be a powerful bonding experience between man and wife.



If you starve yourself on a weekly basis, you tend to relish your infrequent meals.
Treadhead  [Member]
8/9/2004 1:08:16 PM

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Sex done the right way is not over-rated.

This is the symptom of someone who has an unscriptural guilt complex because of past sexual sin.



That reminded me of the old Woody Allen quote from Take the money and run....."Is sex dirty?" "It is if you're doing it right" lol
Searcherfortruth  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 1:11:47 PM
Yeah,...but are you the master of your domain?
macman37  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 1:53:56 PM
I found that very interesting. Thanks for posting it Boom_Stick. Everybody's different, but I know I have a hard time pushing that urge down and locking it away. I get irritable to be sure.

'tis difficult in this day and age to try to uphold the morals I wish to. Whether it's watching TV and seeing lust, or going to the store and seeing Jr. High school girls dress like 35 year old bar skanks.

John_Wayne777  [Member]
8/9/2004 1:58:19 PM

Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:
Yeah,...but are you the master of your domain?



Yes. I am.

Pinky swear.
Merrell  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 1:58:38 PM

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I will not speak of the Illuminati, AS I DARE NOT!



are there any Illuminati lurkers here?

If so, please post in this thread and identify yourselves with the secret phrase

thanks!


M4  [Member]
8/9/2004 2:22:39 PM

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Want to know how the dark forces of the world distract us from how we should think and act?
Ever wonder what the power behind pop culture is? Read on.....



Managing the Male Sex Drive

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
August 08, 2004

.......The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.

Slavery begins with the mind. We can resist by not being controlled by sex.




Ahhhhhh.......wing-nut, party of one, your table is now ready.
M1-Matt  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 2:34:32 PM

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I will not speak of the Illuminati, AS I DARE NOT!



are there any Illuminati lurkers here?

If so, please post in this thread and identify yourselves with the secret phrase

thanks!






Fidelio?
Gloftoe  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 4:27:59 PM

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Yes yes, Illuminati devil worshipers blah blah blah

If they're so bad, and everyone knows about them, how about we just go kill them and be done with it? Oh, that's right, it's FICTION.
hound  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 4:45:29 PM
fnord
RikWriter  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 5:56:11 PM

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.



What a complete crock of unadulterated bullshit.
RikWriter  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 5:57:33 PM

Originally Posted By Shane333:

Originally Posted By hielo:

Originally Posted By Shane333:
I think sex is one of the most wonderful things God gave us the ability to do. So wonderful and sacred that it is intended to be used only within the holy bounds of matrimony.

However, within marriage, sex not only fulfills the need for reproduction but can also be a powerful bonding experience between man and wife. It can also be a romping good time for the couple.

In my opinion, sex should be a frequent activity between man and wife. Sometimes gentle, sometimes wild, but always respectful and loving.



Uh, what about the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of years before the invention of marriage? Evolution gave us a big brain, part of that big brain made sex fun, use it.



What? You mean before Adam and Eve? Look, if you want to be the descendent of apes, so be it. I'm a child of God.



If you want to be willfully ignorant, so be it...you evolved from the same hominid common ancestor as the other species of ape.
nightstalker  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 6:04:27 PM




The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.




[smithers]I think they're on to you Mr. Burns.[/smithers]
steenkybastage  [Member]
8/9/2004 6:34:31 PM

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Oh, my.





I know it sounds a little out there, but if you understand the Bible, Lucifer himself is ruler of this world for the time being. God allows it.
Whether it be bankers (money root of all evil), secret societies, whatever...satan uses honest people to do his work, and they're fooled into believing that they are doing mankind a service.



Uhhhh... Obviously you don't understand the Bible.

THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil, not money.
Boom_Stick  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 7:04:01 PM

Originally Posted By steenkybastage:
Uhhhh... Obviously you don't understand the Bible.

THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil, not money.



It was meant as a quick reference.
For those who "understand the Bible", they know exactly what I'm refering to.






RikWriter  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 7:19:27 PM

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

The thing to remember is that the world is run by a Luciferian cult based in London which controls brainwashing (media and education.) These Illuminati bankers and bluebloods use sex to neuter, distract and degrade both men and women. Their plan is to destroy all nations, races, religions and families and enslave mankind in a one-world government.


Oh, my.





I know it sounds a little out there



That's like saying Liberace was a "little gay." It's not a "little out there" it's fucking NUTS!
SNorman  [Member]
8/9/2004 7:38:37 PM
I'm not sure what he's trying to say. Am I not supposed to want to have sex with fertile, attractive young females?
killswitch  [Member]
8/9/2004 7:39:50 PM
The Stonecutters Song

Who controls the British crown
Who keeps the metric system down
We do!
We do!

Who leaves Atlantis off the maps
Who keeps the Martians under wraps
We do!
We do!

Who holds back the electric car
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star
We do!
We do!

Who robs the cave fish of their sight
Who rigs every Oscar night
We do!
We do!
Boom_Stick  [Team Member]
8/9/2004 7:43:06 PM

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I don't think his call to chastity is normal


He's not calling for that. You missed his argument. He's exposing the unhealthy ideals that are pouring from mass media, hollyweird and those other people who make billions on selling sex.


vs. having a normal healthy sex life.

He's all about a healthy sexlife, just not to the pop-culture standards of today. I dont buy into a lot of his theorys on gooberment either, but read some of his articles about Feminism (aka: femiNazis) and the dysfunctional that a lot of young people have today (sex ='s love). He really makes sense on those subjects.
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