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AR15fan  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 9:50:52 AM EST
Bixby, Oklahoma Police Officer Terminated After Dog Shooting Incident

A Bixby Police officer involved in a dog shooting incident earlier this month has been terminated from his job.

Bixby Police chief Anthony Stephens says officer Cory Forister's employment with the police department has been terminated. Stephens says the reason, "conduct unbecoming an officer," relating to an obscene hand gesture to the media during a dog aggression training session on Tuesday.

Bixby Police officers attended a training course on how to assess which dogs are dangerous. The Bixby Police chief decided every officer in the department had to take the class after officer Cory Forister shot a family's golden retriever.

The chief says Officer Forister used deadly force without considering other available options earlier this month; the dog had to be put down.

Concerning Tuesday's incident, Chief Stephens says 'this type of conduct by a police officer cannot, and will not, be tolerated, under any circumstances."





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sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 9:52:51 AM EST
So a cop shots a dog and it's no big deal. But he flips someone off and it's "unbecoming"?

Damn, you guys are fucked up!

SGatr15
leelaw  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:03:26 AM EST
wtf?
cyanide  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:04:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
So a cop shots a dog and it's no big deal. But he flips someone off and it's "unbecoming"?

Damn, you guys are fucked up!

SGatr15



WTF ---- I agree.
SPECTRE  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:06:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
So a cop shots a dog and it's no big deal. But he flips someone off and it's "unbecoming"?

Damn, you guys are fucked up!

SGatr15



Reporters are more important than family pets.
manghu67  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:09:21 AM EST
man, i need to buy my own friggin island, like YESTERDAY!!!
Dog1  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:10:43 AM EST
He should have shot the reporters and flipped off the dog...
ARDOC  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:14:13 AM EST
I think it was delayed action. Any department will come to the defense of an officer at first. But once they realize he is a bad cop, they will look for a reason to terminate him.
motown_steve  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:16:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dog1:
He should have shot the reporters and flipped off the dog...





Beat me to it!
DnPRK  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:19:06 AM EST
Multiple choice test.

The subject of the story is likely:
A. An officer with a history of poor judgement.
B. An officer with anger management issues.
C. An officer with an "I'm better than you" attitude.
D. All of the above.
Grunteled  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:23:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
So a cop shots a dog and it's no big deal. But he flips someone off and it's "unbecoming"?

Damn, you guys are fucked up!

SGatr15



What is some people's problem. The chief was sending them to get some training to not act like scared children when they see dogs. This was his action in regaurd to an incident where the fired officer killed a family dog. Officer prick flips the bird to the cameras because he's pissed about the training and the media attention, and gets canned.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? Would nothing less than setting fire to the police station satisfy some of you guys? Wow. I'm not on board with the "to hell with 'em, it's just a dog" cops here, but I'm pretty irritated by the damned if they do damned if they don't stuff here too.
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:23:28 AM EST
I picked "E": Your average JBT.


Sgtar15
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:25:54 AM EST
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15
HKocher  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:28:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dog1:
He should have shot the reporters and flipped off the dog...



Gotta agree with that one.
Stronghorn  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:29:48 AM EST
Yea but at least in a round about way, shooting the dog put him in a bad situation and he lost his job because of it. If he hadn't shot the dog, he wouldn't of had to take the class, hence talking to the press nd flipping them off. Your TERMINATED!!!
ryann  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:29:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15



Yeah, Hero, you go right ahead & do that.
paraord16  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:32:24 AM EST
Probably the main reason he was fired for flipping of the news media is because they were looking for a reason to fire him. He probably was written up/reprimanded for shooting the dog but in todays lawsuit happy world the Dept needed a certain amount of documentation to fire him.

I got a good example of this from a friend. An employee where they work got in trouble for something fairly serious and was put on probation. He committed an additional minor infraction and was fired. As a supervisor/employer you have to have your ducks in aa row before you can fire someone.
nacrotek  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:33:08 AM EST
Ban Reporters
mcgrubbs  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:37:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
I think it was delayed action. Any department will come to the defense of an officer at first. But once they realize he is a bad cop, they will look for a reason to terminate him.



Bingo!!

They gave him just enough rope to hang himself, and he did.
jmoffatt  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:37:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
So a cop shots a dog and it's no big deal. But he flips someone off and it's "unbecoming"?

Damn, you guys are fucked up!

SGatr15



Damn , this is twice in a row I'm quoteing SGart15 but, fuck he's right!!!!!
We need a new smiley that gives the finger!!!!
Evil_Ed  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:38:08 AM EST
The cop was probably on double-secret probation...and that little act just tipped the scales to the "fire" zone.
mcgrubbs  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:39:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15




That's just stupid.....
shotar  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:40:05 AM EST
No sense of humor. He was fired for pissing off the Chief. A not uncommon malady.
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:40:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By ryann:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15



Yeah, Hero, you go right ahead & do that.



Well Ryann, thanks for not answering my question.


Not care to tell me why I can't? Just another fucking vicous dog thats only purpose is violance. I think I would be doing society a favor.

Or in you opinion is a K9 dog an officer?


That must suck to have a job where you life is worth the same as a dogs according to you boos.

SGatr15
mcgrubbs  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:43:36 AM EST
That police K9 will probably be the one you want to come clear your house for you. Or chase down a child rapist.

How many times have you seen a police K9 out and about away from his officer threatening you???
QuietShootr  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:49:18 AM EST
I think you guys are missing the point. If a cop can shoot a citizen's dog because he feels threatened, why can't a citizen shoot a cop's dog if he feels threatened by it?

The "threatening" thing is if anything even MORE valid on the citizen's side. If I see an unleashed police dog barreling down on me I can very logically assume he's going to try to take a chunk out of my ass. This could easily happen. What if my neighbors' house was broken into, and unbeknownst to me the cops show up with a dog. Now, I'm in my backyard minding my own business when a snarling police dog comes tearing ass around the house and sees me...if that fucker takes a step in my direction he's gonna eat a Ranger T, and that's just all there is to it.
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:52:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:

How many times have you seen a police K9 out and about away from his officer threatening you???



Twice while out riding my bike. Once was at a stop light where the dog was only inches away from me. He started barking and scared the crap out of me.

Should I have shoot him or not?

SGtar15
199  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:54:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:
No sense of humor. He was fired for pissing off the Chief. A not uncommon malady.


Hey! That’s in-house information!!

You should let these guys think he was genuinely fired for flipping the reporter.

Next you’ll be claiming Santa Claus doesn’t exist!!
garr  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 10:54:57 AM EST
Never misbehave when the spotlight is shining on you!
SNorman  [Member]
6/30/2004 10:59:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15




That's just stupid.....



Yeah, everybody knows police dogs are extra super special. And besides, if a K9 is bringing an ass whooping to you, you probably deserve it!!! (All suspects are guilty, otherwise they wouldn't be "suspect" now would they??!)

ryann  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:00:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By ryann:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15



Yeah, Hero, you go right ahead & do that.




Well Ryann, thanks for not answering my question.


Not care to tell me why I can't? Just another fucking vicous dog thats only purpose is violance. I think I would be doing society a favor.

Or in you opinion is a K9 dog an officer?


That must suck to have a job where you life is worth the same as a dogs according to you boos.

SGatr15


I did answer your question-I believe I said "yeah hero, you go right ahead & do that."
I'd call that an answer wouldn't you?????
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:03:18 AM EST
No, I call that avoidance.

Now answer this question.

If you think it is okay to kill a dog because you feel threathened then why can't I?

And try answering it directly this time.

SGtar15
ryann  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:06:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
No, I call that avoidance.

Now answer this question.

If you think it is okay to kill a dog because you feel threathened then why can't I?

And try answering it directly this time.

SGtar15


Dude, if you feel threatened by a dog, and you're armed-SHOOT THE FUCKING THING !!!!!
I don't give one INFINITESIMAL FUCK what you do !!!!!
Blued-Steel  [Member]
6/30/2004 11:10:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dog1:
He should have shot the reporters and flipped off the dog...



He'd probably still have his job.
sgtar15  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:12:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By ryann:

Dude, if you feel threatened by a dog, and you're armed-SHOOT THE FUCKING THING !!!!!
I don't give one INFINITESIMAL FUCK what you do !!!!!



Yeah...I noticed that you don't care alot about us lowely civilians...





Sgtar15

Edited to remove the ofending remark and I apologize to Ryann for using it.
BluDragon  [Member]
6/30/2004 11:16:18 AM EST
Hmmm. Let's see. Should I shoot a police dog because it barked at me while riding my bike?

Sounds like a good idea to me. The dog imposed on my ability to freely ride my bike down the street, ergo, I must kill it.

I've sprayed quite a few dogs, and most can be calmed down by being friendly or by being firm with them. I usually give a low whistle or kiss noise before entering property on alarm calls and such to see if there are dogs on scene. If the guy fucked up once and shot a dog, then fucked up twice and flipped off reporters, then he got what he deserved.

*sigh* I always find it amazing that everyone on this board doesn't believe a thing the liberal media says, until it comes to cops doing something crooked or stupid. Then all of a sudden the media is the Way and the Truth and the Light.
AZ-K9  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:18:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:

How many times have you seen a police K9 out and about away from his officer threatening you???



Twice while out riding my bike. Once was at a stop light where the dog was only inches away from me. He started barking and scared the crap out of me.

Should I have shoot him or not?

SGtar15


Bullshit. Behind a screen perhaps, but running loose? Bullshit.

And another thing. Let's noe forget that police dogs are generall better trained than the average dog you'd find in a backyard. Take this to mean many, if not all patrol dogs, are taught a bark and hold, and will not bite unless you make an aggressive move.
Blued-Steel  [Member]
6/30/2004 11:19:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
The problem is that he was fired for shooting th dog, but got fired for giving them the finger.

If shooting the dog was just a training issue then how come this is not also.

Again...Can I shoot a K9 unit if it barks at me and I feel threathened?

Why or why not?

SGatr15



No. Because when it is "police dog" it has the same relevance of a human being. You can be charged with assault on an officer if you kick a K9 that is trying to rip your arm off. YOUR dog, on the other hand, whom you raised like your own child, is just a disposable animal that can be shot on sight apparently.
Question: are retired K9s still cops or do they become disposable pets after being put out to pasture?
The_Beer_Slayer  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:19:35 AM EST
.) Repeatedly attacking or insulting a person in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have a right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner

i am really getting tired of posting this. If you can't discuss it rationally don't post it.

mike
AZ-K9  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:22:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By Blued-Steel:

No. Because when it is "police dog" it has the same relevance of a human being. You can be charged with assault on an officer if you kick a K9 that is trying to rip your arm off. YOUR dog, on the other hand, whom you raised like your own child, is just a disposable animal that can be shot on sight apparently.
Question: are retired K9s still cops or do they become disposable pets after being put out to pasture?


Who told you this? Mommy?
MDC85  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:23:20 AM EST
Maybe he was on some sort of probation for killing the dog?
ryann  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:25:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By ryann:

Dude, if you feel threatened by a dog, and you're armed-SHOOT THE FUCKING THING !!!!!
I don't give one INFINITESIMAL FUCK what you do !!!!!



Yeah...I noticed that you don't care alot about us lowely civilians...


BTW, How's that drinking problem coming along?


Sgtar15


Um I rarely drink, but on the rare occasion that I do, its Coors lite beer-shaken, not stirred.
But thanks for caring.
Are you implying that to disagree with the mighty sgtar15 one must be drunk, as a sober man of sound mind & body would never find fault with your position?
mcgrubbs  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:26:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By MDC85:
Maybe he was on some sort of probation for killing the dog?



Bingo!!
bluedogsixty  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:27:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By garr:
Never misbehave when the spotlight is shining on you!



Yeah, that's right. Do you what you want when there are no cameras watching but
abuse the hell out of the people and property you were hired to serve when noone
is looking.

A JBT is the last person I would call to help me. Thank you no, I'll take care of
myself.

You want the people's respect? EARN IT!, like our military is doing!

Oh well, I guess if we didn't have JBT's the employment lines at McDonald's
would too long and deserving people couldn't find work.

My opinion and I am sticking to it
tivoli410  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:28:05 AM EST
Anyone have a link to the original article?
tivoli410  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:29:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By bluedogsixty:
You want the people's respect? EARN IT!, like our military is doing!


What if the .mil started doing entries on houses on the U.S. instead of cops?
The_Beer_Slayer  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:30:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By tivoli410:

Originally Posted By bluedogsixty:
You want the people's respect? EARN IT!, like our military is doing!


What if the .mil started doing entries on houses on the U.S. instead of cops?



i'd bet they could get the address correct.

mike
Oslow  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:32:03 AM EST
I'm glad the dickhead got canned; whatever the reason given.

He will probably end up in jail for shooting someone though.

tivoli410  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:39:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By tivoli410:

Originally Posted By bluedogsixty:
You want the people's respect? EARN IT!, like our military is doing!


What if the .mil started doing entries on houses on the U.S. instead of cops?



i'd bet they could get the address correct.

mike



Is that what happened? (never saw the article)

The .mil screws up too, as does everyone. When they screw up it is considered collateral damage/price paid for going to war. I would also guess that they are more heavily funded.

I'm sure the cop didn't purposely go to a wrong house and shoot a dog for fun.

Just trying to show different angles. Not justifying shooting dogs and getting away with it.
AR15fan  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:45:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By ryann:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
No, I call that avoidance.

Now answer this question.

If you think it is okay to kill a dog because you feel threathened then why can't I?

And try answering it directly this time.

SGtar15


Dude, if you feel threatened by a dog, and you're armed-SHOOT THE FUCKING THING !!!!!
I don't give one INFINITESIMAL FUCK what you do !!!!!



That's pretty much my view on the whole thing to. However I dont typically see working dogs out running around unsupervised. They are usually locked inthe car, or on lead when not actively deployed. Any K9 thats just running free should be "retired" and its handler fired.
DScott  [Team Member]
6/30/2004 11:46:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By tivoli410:

Originally Posted By bluedogsixty:
You want the people's respect? EARN IT!, like our military is doing!


What if the .mil started doing entries on houses on the U.S. instead of cops?



i'd bet they could get the address correct.

mike




Sure, they'd just blow up the whole neighborhood.


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