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 July 28th 1945, B-25 Bomber hits the Empire State Building.
Treadhead  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 4:49:27 PM
I was digging through some totes of books I have here and ran across one I read a few years ago "The Sky is falling" (Arthur Weingarten) about the
morning that a B-25 bomber hit the Empire State Building at the 79th floor.

It's one of those stories that not a lot of folks have heard about or (if they're old enough) remember and thought I'd see what the hive's thoughts are
on it because it "sounds" like an urban legend that just happens to be true.

One story from that day that sticks out is the one of Betty Lou Oliver. She was injured in the impact and was loaded into an elevator by rescue
personnel to get her down to the street. They didn't know at the time that one of the engines from the plane had separated and trashed the
cables and, as soon as the doors closed they heard a "bang" (As the last of the cables snapped) and she fell 75 floors. What's amazing is that
she LIVED and holds the record for longest survived elevator fall !!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Lou_Oliver
"Once the elevator doors closed, the cables snapped and Oliver plummeted 75 stories to the basement.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Lou_Oliver#cite_note-1][2][/url] She screamed all the way down when falling in the elevator. Oliver survived but again had to be rescued and was later treated at the hospital for serious injuries. The thousand feet of elevator cable had fallen to the bottom of the shaft, creating a softer landing surface."

Another good read is that of Gloria Pall. She was an 18yr old Jewish USO worker who had been turned down for a job at the Catholic War Relief Services
(The office that the plane hit) because she wasn't Catholic.
Gloria

Her story
http://www.gloriapall.com/empireb25.pdf

Some pic's from that day.







There's a couple of shots of dead bodies in this vid' so NSFW/kids in some cases.
xxspudxx  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 4:55:21 PM
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "

That video is crazy. Thanks for posting.
ColonelHurtz  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 4:59:58 PM
And that was the first thing I thought of the morning of September Eleventh.
When my friend Aaron told me that a plane had hit the World Trade Center the first words out of my mouth were, "Like in WWII?"
AR-180  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:03:21 PM
Very interesting.
fcat  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:12:10 PM
Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
And that was the first thing I thought of the morning of September Eleventh.
When my friend Aaron told me that a plane had hit the World Trade Center the first words out of my mouth were, "Like in WWII?"


I thought the same when I first heard about the attacks.
Stlkid  [Member]
7/24/2012 5:19:43 PM
Originally Posted By xxspudxx:
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "

That video is crazy. Thanks for posting.


That hole isnt big enough for a Plane to hit it!, where are the holes where engine and wings were?!!!!!
Treadhead  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:29:43 PM

Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Originally Posted By xxspudxx:
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "

That video is crazy. Thanks for posting.


That hole isnt big enough for a Plane to hit it!, where are the holes where engine and wings were?!!!!!
A bunch of the comments on YT videos of that day say pretty much the same thing I can't even fathom some of the shit those people believe.

Trebor  [Member]
7/24/2012 5:30:20 PM
I read a book about it about 20 years ago and I suspect it's the same one. What's the Copyright date?

I also remember reading one about a fire at a Catholic school in Chicago that was written about the same time. Anyone read that one?
Lumpy196  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:30:45 PM
Originally Posted By xxspudxx:
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "





I'm thinking it might be 670 gallons of fuel versus 23,980...
Stlkid  [Member]
7/24/2012 5:36:56 PM
Originally Posted By Treadhead:

Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Originally Posted By xxspudxx:
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "

That video is crazy. Thanks for posting.


That hole isnt big enough for a Plane to hit it!, where are the holes where engine and wings were?!!!!!
A bunch of the comments on YT videos of that day say pretty much the same thing I can't even fathom some of the shit those people believe.



Yes unfortunately most people are so fucking stupid when it comes to well....anything that they think a plane should leave a exact cut out of its self, kind of like this.
j97531  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:49:08 PM
Never heard of this, thanks OP!
GI-45  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:54:54 PM

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Originally Posted By xxspudxx:
In before " Why didn't the building fall? "





I'm thinking it might be 670 gallons of fuel versus 23,980...

That, and the Empire State Building is a hell of a lot tougher than the Twin Towers were, in terms of construction.

92muddyXJ  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 5:58:39 PM
Originally Posted By j97531:
Never heard of this, thanks OP!


FudgieGhost1  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:01:17 PM

Originally Posted By Trebor:
I read a book about it about 20 years ago and I suspect it's the same one. What's the Copyright date?

I also remember reading one about a fire at a Catholic school in Chicago that was written about the same time. Anyone read that one?

Believe the book is called "The Sky is Falling". . . read it many years ago. . .interesting minute by minute account of the flight, crash and response. . .
4v50  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:08:14 PM
They told us about the accident when we visited the building. Lots of steel made a difference.
Treadhead  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:39:43 PM

Originally Posted By FudgieGhost1:

Originally Posted By Trebor:
I read a book about it about 20 years ago and I suspect it's the same one. What's the Copyright date?

I also remember reading one about a fire at a Catholic school in Chicago that was written about the same time. Anyone read that one?

Believe the book is called "The Sky is Falling". . . read it many years ago. . .interesting minute by minute account of the flight, crash and response. . .
That's the one.

TacticalMOLONLABE  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:41:28 PM
Damn it OP I was gonna do a thread on this on the 28th
oresti  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:42:42 PM
Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
And that was the first thing I thought of the morning of September Eleventh.
When my friend Aaron told me that a plane had hit the World Trade Center the first words out of my mouth were, "Like in WWII?"


Myself as well. Lots of people never knew this happened.
Treadhead  [Team Member]
7/24/2012 6:48:10 PM

Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:
Damn it OP I was gonna do a thread on this on the 28th
Go ahead brother. This sucker'll be ancient history by then