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 Hey Farmers, winter wheat crop failure?
firedog51d  [Member]
6/8/2012 9:48:00 PM
A good fried of ours is older and widowed. She rents out her land to a local farmer who planted winter wheat. This crop failed, no grain in the head of the wheat? Does that make sense? The farmer told our friend that his was not the only crop that it happened to. He said that it was wide spread and that basically this years winter wheat crop was a failure and that there would be a sharp up swing in the price of wheat based foods.

Any other farmers have this happen? Anyone heard anything else about it?
Cpt_Kirks  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:50:04 PM
Did they remember to fertilize it?

My parents are about to go to the Bahamas off their wheat rent payment.

tyman  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:51:35 PM
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.
Gamma762  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:52:28 PM
It can happen. Too much or not enough rain, fungus, insect attack at the wrong time, etc.

Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.

We had a near record yield. Doesn't mean someone in the next county might not have had a failure.
4v50  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:52:41 PM
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Thank you Kansas
stutzcattle  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:52:47 PM
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Same here.
fxntime  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:54:04 PM
Winter wheat is fine around here, the fruit crop is another story, it's going to be at around 10% of a regular year due to the late frost.
thebeekeeper1  [Site Staff]
6/8/2012 9:55:48 PM
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Yes––a dry May will make for a great crop.

I planted a tiny patch as a cover to get the crown vetch to grow. CV didn't even germinate but I have a decent looking wheat "crop" (to be mowed, not harvested).
skunk-ape  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 9:58:50 PM
a lot of farmers just cut their wheat here and baled it for feed

I was told by some that it didn't make wheat kernels consistantly so the grain buyers wouldn't pay much for it

Keith_J  [Life Member]
6/8/2012 9:59:55 PM
Winter wheat in Michigan? Works fine down here if winter moisture is sufficient but won't make if dry.

C3 grasses can be fickle with moisture.
ScopeScar  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 10:05:33 PM
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Yes末a dry May will make for a great crop.

I planted a tiny patch as a cover to get the crown vetch to grow. CV didn't even germinate but I have a decent looking wheat "crop" (to be mowed, not harvested).


I planted some in my backyard here in western WA and was amazed it didn't rot. Got something like 4 cups after manually separating it.
thebeekeeper1  [Site Staff]
6/8/2012 10:08:22 PM
Originally Posted By ScopeScar:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Yes末a dry May will make for a great crop.

I planted a tiny patch as a cover to get the crown vetch to grow. CV didn't even germinate but I have a decent looking wheat "crop" (to be mowed, not harvested).


I planted some in my backyard here in western WA and was amazed it didn't rot. Got something like 4 cups after manually separating it.


Yeah, it won't take wet conditions very well. Mold, fungous, and other ickies will do it in. Fun to grow though!
tyman  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 10:10:38 PM
Originally Posted By 4v50:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Thank you Kansas


tyman  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 10:11:17 PM
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Greaaaaaaaaat harvest so far here in KS.....and the forecasts are showing a fantastic outlook.


Yes末a dry May will make for a great crop.

I planted a tiny patch as a cover to get the crown vetch to grow. CV didn't even germinate but I have a decent looking wheat "crop" (to be mowed, not harvested).


We had a nice rain 2 days before everyone started cutting so it helped keep the dust down but it wasn't enough to saturate everything and rot it.
firedog51d  [Member]
6/8/2012 10:38:14 PM
Thanks for the info. We are in mid Michigan. I wonder if it was a local thing or maybe the farmer did forget to fertilize it and is just blowing smoke.
slo40  [Member]
6/8/2012 10:41:42 PM
In Kansas it highly depended on your part of the state this year. Guys in North and SE seemed to be getting 40-50 bushels an acre. Read a report this morning that guys out in western Kansas were only averaging 15-20 bushels an acre.
kentucky_smith  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 10:47:32 PM
Originally Posted By slo40:
In Kansas it highly depended on your part of the state this year. Guys in North and SE seemed to be getting 40-50 bushels an acre. Read a report this morning that guys out in western Kansas were only averaging 15-20 bushels an acre.


I rolled about 4000 pounds ( 4 4x5 rolls) per acre on 8 acres about a month ago. Didn't fertilize it either. Good year.
17Z  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 10:47:44 PM
Extraordinarily early harvest for winter wheat in Oklahoma...but it's been good.

Lots of variables for wheat...but a period of heat and drought during late developement can cause empty heads..
WTF54  [Member]
6/8/2012 10:56:43 PM
The winter wheat on our ground looks great and should be ready in a few more weeks. Central Indiana
Andrew  [Life Member]
6/8/2012 11:04:15 PM
Bumper crop here..
Vespid_Wasp  [Member]
6/8/2012 11:09:15 PM
Originally Posted By WTF54:
The winter wheat on our ground looks great and should be ready in a few more weeks. Central Indiana


Likewise.


Vespid_Wasp  [Member]
6/8/2012 11:10:23 PM
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
A good fried of ours is older and widowed. She rents out her land to a local farmer who planted winter wheat. This crop failed, no grain in the head of the wheat? Does that make sense? The farmer told our friend that his was not the only crop that it happened to. He said that it was wide spread and that basically this years winter wheat crop was a failure and that there would be a sharp up swing in the price of wheat based foods.

Any other farmers have this happen? Anyone heard anything else about it?



Your friend is cash renting her ground right?
1Dog  [Member]
6/8/2012 11:12:42 PM
We are harvesting in the Texas Panhandle right now. Earliest harvest I've ever seen and I've been at it for 50 years. Last year was the driest on record and the crop sucked. This year we've had about 2 inches of rain and had about 6 inches of snow, total. The yield is really low, 6 to 12 bushels per acre. Some fields are better than others.
Op–– your farmer is probably telling the truth but if you are in doubt, check with his insurance agent and see what kind of yields he reported. Your landlord should have insured their interest in the crop also, and its in their best interest to protect themselves from a loss.
KG5S  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 11:15:45 PM
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Did they remember to fertilize it?

My parents are about to go to the Bahamas off their wheat rent payment.



First post nails it ! Blanks (no seed in the head) tells me he didn't put fert on it , I have put fertilizer on millions of acers of wheat !
tyman  [Team Member]
6/8/2012 11:19:33 PM
Originally Posted By 1Dog:
We are harvesting in the Texas Panhandle right now. Earliest harvest I've ever seen and I've been at it for 50 years. Last year was the driest on record and the crop sucked. This year we've had about 2 inches of rain and had about 6 inches of snow, total. The yield is really low, 6 to 12 bushels per acre. Some fields are better than others.
Op末 your farmer is probably telling the truth but if you are in doubt, check with his insurance agent and see what kind of yields he reported. Your landlord should have insured their interest in the crop also, and its in their best interest to protect themselves from a loss.


Holy cow, only 6-12? They're forecasting 40-60's here in KS this year.
acpchuck  [Member]
6/9/2012 12:17:02 AM
Seems to be doing very well here. We had a wetter and warmer winter than normal. Lots more wheat planted this year than potatoes as farmers get better pricess for wheat unless they are under contract for potatoes.
duckslayerjt  [Life Member]
6/9/2012 12:28:08 AM
Originally Posted By 17Z:
Extraordinarily early harvest for winter wheat in Oklahoma...but it's been good.


Pretty much the same here. People were actually planting cotton and corn after wheat.
Gamma762  [Team Member]
6/9/2012 3:30:57 PM
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By 1Dog:
We are harvesting in the Texas Panhandle right now. Earliest harvest I've ever seen and I've been at it for 50 years. Last year was the driest on record and the crop sucked. This year we've had about 2 inches of rain and had about 6 inches of snow, total. The yield is really low, 6 to 12 bushels per acre. Some fields are better than others.
Op末 your farmer is probably telling the truth but if you are in doubt, check with his insurance agent and see what kind of yields he reported. Your landlord should have insured their interest in the crop also, and its in their best interest to protect themselves from a loss.

Holy cow, only 6-12? They're forecasting 40-60's here in KS this year.

We got over 80 this year

We've had our share of the 6-12 years though And the "just disk it up" years.
JDavis21835  [Team Member]
6/9/2012 3:37:39 PM
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
Thanks for the info. We are in mid Michigan. I wonder if it was a local thing or maybe the farmer did forget to fertilize it and is just blowing smoke.


In the Saginaw Valley area, most of the wheat I have seen looks pretty good. Across the state, again, most of the wheat I have seen looks pretty good. We did not have much snow this winter, but it didnt seam terribly cold, so I dont think there is much winter kill either.
tyman  [Team Member]
6/9/2012 3:48:53 PM
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By 1Dog:
We are harvesting in the Texas Panhandle right now. Earliest harvest I've ever seen and I've been at it for 50 years. Last year was the driest on record and the crop sucked. This year we've had about 2 inches of rain and had about 6 inches of snow, total. The yield is really low, 6 to 12 bushels per acre. Some fields are better than others.
Op末 your farmer is probably telling the truth but if you are in doubt, check with his insurance agent and see what kind of yields he reported. Your landlord should have insured their interest in the crop also, and its in their best interest to protect themselves from a loss.

Holy cow, only 6-12? They're forecasting 40-60's here in KS this year.

We got over 80 this year

We've had our share of the 6-12 years though And the "just disk it up" years.


speedracer422  [Team Member]
6/9/2012 4:02:14 PM
I heard the Soviet Union suffered their worst wheat harvest in 55 years


How am I the first person to post that in this thread?





Speed
YoungGOP  [Member]
6/9/2012 4:18:17 PM
Make a call to your county farm bureau. Someone there will be able to tell you about the expectations for winter wheat in your area.
biglou250  [Member]
6/9/2012 4:54:26 PM
Wheat looks pretty good here in Southern Illinois. Farmers have been harvesting for a week or so now.
78FORDF150  [Member]
6/9/2012 5:11:02 PM
84 bushel is the best I have seen so far!!!!!!!