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 Who is TACOM and why did they ban P MAGS?
maleante  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 2:43:53 AM
zwitterr  [Member]
5/2/2012 2:47:38 AM
Who is this Brazilian guy and why does he keep posting troll questions that he knows the answer to?
ap4war  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 2:48:17 AM
a bunch of corporate weeny tookers who side on the safe side instead of the common sense side.
USMCTanker  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 2:51:47 AM
Old, old news.
ssgsnake  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 4:06:51 AM
Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Old, old news.


This
Cavscouty  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 4:16:47 AM
I never heard TACOM banned them. Marines yeah. Someone provide a link please.
Cavscouty  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 12:29:15 PM
Originally Posted By ssgsnake:
Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Old, old news.


This

Either of you fellas have a link?
50cal  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 12:32:08 PM
Does the PMag have an NSN? Don't see how it could be a prohibited item if it has an NSN.
chapperjoe  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 12:38:09 PM
I believe it is tank and automotive command used to also buy stuff for foriegn armies (see bushmaster).

also IIRC, the pmag (as it was then) wouldn't work in the HK based guns so the USMC 'banned them' due to the IAR.
Herc  [Member]
5/2/2012 12:45:30 PM
Not new at all.

GI mags with tan followers are the standard. The green followers are to be used until they run out. If it's black, take it back.
FDC  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 9:49:27 PM
Originally Posted By Cavscouty:
Originally Posted By ssgsnake:
Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Old, old news.


This

Either of you fellas have a link?


https://acc.dau.mil/CommunityBrowser.aspx?id=510851

It will be ignored like TACOM's other silliness regarding weapons.
leatherpuke  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 9:56:21 PM
We get issued them, hard for them to be banned when they give them out at the arms room.
Cavscouty  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 10:10:32 PM
Thanks FDC, my browsers are blocking the site but I'll take your word for it. Yeah, that's pretty silly.
QuanticoTactical  [Industry Partner]
5/2/2012 10:13:47 PM
From the TACOM Link: "Remember; tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it back."

"green-start to lean"?

Really?

There must be a One-Star at TACOM overseeing their "Mnemonic Rhymes for the Troops" Section. It HAS to be a general officer billet; it just has to...
FDC  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 10:16:51 PM
Originally Posted By Cavscouty:
Thanks FDC, my browsers are blocking the site but I'll take your word for it. Yeah, that's pretty silly.


If using Mozilla, which has absolutely retarded certificate handling, just keep accepting recommendation, or I know what I'm doing, or whatever stupid thing Mozilla likes––-Army pages are built for IE.

TACOM LCMC MI 12-021, M4 / M16 Improved Magazine and the Use of Commercial Magazines
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https://www.us.army.mil/suite/doc/36194058
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Issue: TACOM has become aware of units ordering 30 rd. commercial (i.e.
polymer, etc.) magazines for their M4/M16 family of weapons. The
M4/M16 Army authorized magazines are the following: NSN 1005-00-561-7200
(improved magazine) and NSN 1005-00-921-5004 (older magazine; use until
exhaustion).



User Actions: TM 9-1005-319-10, the Additional Authorized List (AAL),
states that NSN 1005-00-921-5004 is authorized, as well as NSN
1005-00-561-7200. Units may use the older magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004
with the green follower until exhausted. The improved magazine is available
in stock, NSN 1005-00-561-7200, and has a tan follower. The improved
magazine features an improved follower and follower spring. These new
features help to reduce the risk of magazine-related stoppages. Units are
only authorized to use the Army authorized magazines listed in the technical
manuals. Remember; "tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it
back." Magazines with the black follower are the oldest and should be turned
in to your unit supply sergeant or local supply point.
FDC  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 10:18:38 PM
Originally Posted By QuanticoTactical:
From the TACOM Link: "Remember; tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it back."

"green-start to lean"?

Really?

There must be a One-Star at TACOM overseeing their "Mnemonic Rhymes for the Troops" Section. It HAS to be a general officer billet; it just has to...



Yeah, that is just about a copy and paste from one of those PM comic books. How it made an official message is beyond me.

I wonder if that billet needs a senior NCO––I would have it in gangster rap on you tube.