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cenpengenxer  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:14:53 PM
The electrical wires in our area are all above ground. In a span of 2 miles there were 3 transitions from the T type poles to the E type poles and back again. What's the difference and if it doesn't matter - why the two different types?
THOLL223  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:19:31 PM
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living


futuremodal  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:21:52 PM
The "E" type poles are usually used when there's no need for transformers to serve customers and they're trying to cut down on the amount of horizontal upper space that has to be maintained aka trees/tree branches.
Wigglesdabum  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:24:04 PM
small hijack... who owns the land under those lines where they travel along? the power company? would I get my wee wee smacked for shooting under them?
THOLL223  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:27:04 PM

Originally Posted By Wigglesdabum:
small hijack... who owns the land under those lines where they travel along? the power company? would I get my wee wee smacked for shooting under them?

If you are talking the bigger transmission lines, typically the utility will own the land or possibly have easement rights over the land owned by someone else. Usually they don't take too kindly to shooting under them considering people like to shoot at insulators and other line equipment. It could be considered trespassing if they really wanted to push it.
Plasteredtex  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:27:27 PM
Originally Posted By Wigglesdabum:
small hijack... who owns the land under those lines where they travel along? the power company? would I get my wee wee smacked for shooting under them?


depending on the state, the power company has an easement, and no you will not get in trouble for shooting, hunting under them.

Hell one of the best stands i have is under a 750kva line
cenpengenxer  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:27:29 PM

Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living



Thanks for that. It's just one less thing to keep me awake wondering about tonight. :)

While I've got you...what are those accordian/bellows looking things I see on some of the poles. And how heavy are those big gray cylinders (transformers?) that hang on the poles?
Plasteredtex  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:28:58 PM
Originally Posted By cenpengenxer:

Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living



Thanks for that. It's just one less thing to keep me awake wondering about tonight. :)

While I've got you...what are those accordian/bellows looking things I see on some of the poles. And how heavy are those big gray cylinders (transformers?) that hang on the poles?


transformers are fucking heavy depending on the size. They are steel, copper, and full of oil
SCW  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:30:16 PM
Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living




Who do you work for? I'm now a field engineer for T-line projects, but I was a design engineer for 5 years prior to this.

Current project

Wigglesdabum  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:31:54 PM
Originally Posted By THOLL223:

Originally Posted By Wigglesdabum:
small hijack... who owns the land under those lines where they travel along? the power company? would I get my wee wee smacked for shooting under them?

If you are talking the bigger transmission lines, typically the utility will own the land or possibly have easement rights over the land owned by someone else. Usually they don't take too kindly to shooting under them considering people like to shoot at insulators and other line equipment. It could be considered trespassing if they really wanted to push it.


http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/sparky2000/sparky20000511/sparky2000051100475/280015-hight-voltage-lines-are-held-aloft-by-a-giant-power-tower.jpg

That is about the type. there are two rows of them down a long empty fire lane. I was considering hunting/long range target shooting under them.
Plasteredtex  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:32:04 PM
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living




Who do you work for? I'm now a field engineer for T-line projects, but I was a design engineer for 5 years prior to this.

Current project

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/P9010249.jpg


You guys ever heard of Osmose
Xringlover  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:33:27 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By cenpengenxer:

Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living



Thanks for that. It's just one less thing to keep me awake wondering about tonight. :)

While I've got you...what are those accordian/bellows looking things I see on some of the poles. And how heavy are those big gray cylinders (transformers?) that hang on the poles?


transformers are fucking heavy depending on the size. They are steel, copper, and full of oil


Have a 5 KVA unit here for a project. It weighs 200 LBs. It is a small unit compared to normal residential transformers.



Plasteredtex  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:36:02 PM
Originally Posted By Xringlover:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By cenpengenxer:

Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living



Thanks for that. It's just one less thing to keep me awake wondering about tonight. :)

While I've got you...what are those accordian/bellows looking things I see on some of the poles. And how heavy are those big gray cylinders (transformers?) that hang on the poles?


transformers are fucking heavy depending on the size. They are steel, copper, and full of oil


Have a 5 KVA unit here for a project. It weighs 200 LBs. It is a small unit compared to normal residential transformers.





i remember putting a 25kva in the back of my truck while i was in New Orleans. Damn thing bottomed out my 3/4 ton
SCW  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:36:02 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living




Who do you work for? I'm now a field engineer for T-line projects, but I was a design engineer for 5 years prior to this.

Current project

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/P9010249.jpg


You guys ever heard of Osmose


Yes, but we don't run with that kind of riff-raff

They do mostly repair and inspection work I think. I've been on projects where they have inspected the line previously for damage and age-related problems, but they have only done inspection and reports on my projects. I know PacifiCorp uses them for some things because I see their trucks from time to time, but I don't know what they do. I work for a consulting firm that does some PacifiCorp work.
Timco  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:36:19 PM
It's a long way, to the top, if you want to rock 'n roll!
Plasteredtex  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:37:49 PM
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living




Who do you work for? I'm now a field engineer for T-line projects, but I was a design engineer for 5 years prior to this.

Current project

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/P9010249.jpg


You guys ever heard of Osmose


Yes, but we don't run with that kind of riff-raff

They do mostly repair and inspection work I think. I've been on projects where they have inspected the line previously for damage and age-related problems, but they have only done inspection and reports on my projects. I know PacifiCorp uses them for some things because I see their trucks from time to time, but I don't know what they do. I work for a consulting firm that does some PacifiCorp work.


Ya that's the PIT (Pole inspection and treatment) side of it. I work in the GIS mapping side of the company.
Wigglesdabum  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:42:02 PM
Do you guys suggest I call someone at the nuclear station (thats the main provider) and ask them about it for approval or just "ignorance is bliss" it.
SCW  [Member]
4/28/2012 11:42:18 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By SCW:
Originally Posted By THOLL223:
If by T type you are talking about the crossarm on the pole at the top and E type you are talking about laid out on the pole and spaced at different heights.

Usually they mounted them vertically to decrease the width of the line for tree clearance, keep it tighter to the pole. If they go back and forth for no reason, I am not sure some designer was drunk that day.

fyi: I design powerlines for a living




Who do you work for? I'm now a field engineer for T-line projects, but I was a design engineer for 5 years prior to this.

Current project

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae294/SCW-Shooter/P9010249.jpg


You guys ever heard of Osmose


Yes, but we don't run with that kind of riff-raff

They do mostly repair and inspection work I think. I've been on projects where they have inspected the line previously for damage and age-related problems, but they have only done inspection and reports on my projects. I know PacifiCorp uses them for some things because I see their trucks from time to time, but I don't know what they do. I work for a consulting firm that does some PacifiCorp work.


Ya that's the PIT (Pole inspection and treatment) side of it. I work in the GIS mapping side of the company.


Yep, they were reporting on woodpecker and termite damage on a 69kV line I rebuilt about 5 years ago in Wisconsin. I really haven't bumped into them much since then, but as I mentioned I do see their trucks around town on occasion.

The contractors I'm working with right now are Maztec, Wilson and Wasatch. We've also worked with PAR quite a bit, but so does everybody.
THOLL223  [Team Member]
4/28/2012 11:48:18 PM

Originally Posted By Wigglesdabum:
Do you guys suggest I call someone at the nuclear station (thats the main provider) and ask them about it for approval or just "ignorance is bliss" it.

Ignorance is probably bliss, most likely you will not ever run across anyone and unless it is posted. ROW clearings make good deer hunting spots.

I work for the biggest Utility in MI. There are only 2, shouldn't be hard to figure out.