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CNET: "This Internet provider pledges to put your privacy first. Always."
4/13/2012 4:33:22 PM
(Apologies if it's a dupe - can't search GD and didn't have hits on Google using "ar15.com" and "Calyx")
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/
"Nicholas Merrill is planning to revolutionize online privacy with a concept as simple as it is ingenious: a telecommunications provider designed from its inception to shield its customers from surveillance.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57412225-281/this-internet-provider-pledges-to-put-your-privacy-first-always/
"Nicholas Merrill is planning to revolutionize online privacy with a concept as simple as it is ingenious: a telecommunications provider designed from its inception to shield its customers from surveillance.
Merrill, 39, who previously ran a New York-based Internet provider, told
CNET that he's raising funds to launch a national "non-profit
telecommunications provider dedicated to privacy, using ubiquitous
encryption" that will sell mobile phone service and, for as little as
$20 a month, Internet connectivity.
The ISP would not merely employ every technological means at its
disposal, including encryption and limited logging, to protect its
customers. It would also –– and in practice this is likely more
important –– challenge government surveillance demands of dubious
legality or constitutionality"
4/13/2012 4:34:13 PM
US gov: good luck with that.
4/13/2012 4:34:14 PM
Interesting.
4/13/2012 4:38:47 PM
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank. 
4/13/2012 4:39:51 PM
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
QFT
4/13/2012 4:39:56 PM
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
4/13/2012 4:45:12 PM
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Did you read the highlighted part?
"His recipe for Calyx was inspired by those six years of interminable
legal wrangling with the Feds: Take wireless service like that offered
by Clear, which began selling 4G WiMAX broadband in 2009.
Inject end-to-end encryption for Web browsing. Add e-mail that's stored
in encrypted form, so even Calyx can't read it after it arrives. Wrap
all of this up into an easy-to-use package and sell it for competitive
prices, ideally around $20 a month without data caps, though perhaps
prepaid for a full year."
4/13/2012 4:49:18 PM
Originally Posted By Metallurgist:
US gov: good luck with that.
US gov: good luck with that.
4/13/2012 4:51:12 PM
Originally Posted By RickyRifle:
Did you read the highlighted part?
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Did you read the highlighted part?
"His recipe for Calyx was inspired by those six years of interminable legal wrangling with the Feds: Take wireless service like that offered by Clear, which began selling 4G WiMAX broadband in 2009. Inject end-to-end encryption for Web browsing. Add e-mail that's stored in encrypted form, so even Calyx can't read it after it arrives. Wrap all of this up into an easy-to-use package and sell it for competitive prices, ideally around $20 a month without data caps, though perhaps prepaid for a full year."
If he's doing the encrypting then he can read them.
4/13/2012 4:52:50 PM
Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Metallurgist:
US gov: good luck with that.
US gov: good luck with that.
Meh.
At least make them work for it:
"Even if Calyx encrypts everything, the surveillance arms of the FBI and
the bureau's lesser-known counterparts will still have other legal means
to eavesdrop on Americans, of course. Police can remotely install spyware on a suspect's computer. Or install keyloggers by breaking into a home or office. Or, as the Secret Service outlined at last year's RSA conference, they can try to guess passwords and conduct physical surveillance.
That prospect doesn't exactly please the FBI. ..."
That prospect doesn't exactly please the FBI. ..."
4/13/2012 4:53:23 PM
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Seems like the guy has gone through a lot just for it to be a MPAA setup.
4/13/2012 4:56:48 PM
Originally Posted By AR4U:
Seems like the guy has gone through a lot just for it to be a MPAA setup.
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Seems like the guy has gone through a lot just for it to be a MPAA setup.
Yeah, you'd think they'd go after some easier targets by setting up some honeytrap torrents.
4/13/2012 5:01:42 PM
Originally Posted By RickyRifle:
Yeah, you'd think they'd go after some easier targets by setting up some honeytrap torrents.
Originally Posted By AR4U:
Seems like the guy has gone through a lot just for it to be a MPAA setup.
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
IMHO he could totally run it for profit with similar services/pricing when compared to other ISPs, with the sole difference being privacy- and he would make bank.
Or it could be a subsidiary of the MPAA and just trying to get direct access to your usage.
Seems like the guy has gone through a lot just for it to be a MPAA setup.
Yeah, you'd think they'd go after some easier targets by setting up some honeytrap torrents.
Those people should be arrested for extortion, and possibly RICO.
4/13/2012 5:05:48 PM
Man, I figured this thread would be a libertarian vs neo-con slugfest by now. Does Dave-A still post? I've been out of the loop for a while.
Anyway, here's the link mentioned in the article to the guys fundraising site for getting this project off the ground:
http://www.indiegogo.com/calyx
Anyway, here's the link mentioned in the article to the guys fundraising site for getting this project off the ground:
http://www.indiegogo.com/calyx
4/13/2012 5:38:01 PM
I wish I was in a position to contribute towards his effort.
4/13/2012 9:46:08 PM
Originally Posted By RickyRifle:
Man, I figured this thread would be a libertarian vs neo-con slugfest by now. Does Dave-A still post? I've been out of the loop for a while.
Anyway, here's the link mentioned in the article to the guys fundraising site for getting this project off the ground:
http://www.indiegogo.com/calyx
Man, I figured this thread would be a libertarian vs neo-con slugfest by now. Does Dave-A still post? I've been out of the loop for a while.
Anyway, here's the link mentioned in the article to the guys fundraising site for getting this project off the ground:
http://www.indiegogo.com/calyx
Dave's not here, man.
4/13/2012 11:49:37 PM
Originally Posted By TheJacket:
I wish I was in a position to contribute towards his effort.
I wish I was in a position to contribute towards his effort.
After reading this, I decided to make a donation:
4/13/2012 11:54:27 PM
Good to hear.
4/14/2012 12:05:56 AM
Dupe, but a worthy dupe.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1310586_Internet_Provider_Plans__Secure__ISP_Project.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1310586_Internet_Provider_Plans__Secure__ISP_Project.html
