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RangemasterP226  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 5:48:25 PM EST
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.
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Timco  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 5:50:33 PM EST
Best value per BTU is natural gas. Oil second. Then propane. Electric is most expensive.
watchwatch  [Member]
1/20/2012 5:52:03 PM EST
toothandnail  [Member]
1/20/2012 5:53:58 PM EST
Either you have

A. a leak
B. LOTS of women/girls taking loooooooooong hot baths/showers
C. propane co is screwing you.

We use propane for water heater only , 3 females + me , we use about 250-300 gal per YEAR !
redoubt  [Member]
1/20/2012 5:54:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Quit heating hot water and save money.
flinch08  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 5:58:01 PM EST
Ya. Thank god we just went through the warmest peroid ever. Still at 30%. Will need more to finish the season but not a full tank.

Roadracer49  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:01:18 PM EST
This thread is of interest to me. I just bought a new place in October and the furnaces, hot water heaters, and stove are on propane. We have a 250 gallon tank and it cost $550 to have it filled two weeks ago. The previous owner told us that he only filled the tank twice a year but I have figured out that he was full of shit as we have already filled it twice in a three month period. I could use some vasoline.

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ultramagbrion  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:05:38 PM EST
We've got a Toyosun kerosene monitor heater and it sucks cock by choice . Nothing but glitchy little problems .

This is the last season we'll be using it . Natural gas or propane next winter
theskuh  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:06:53 PM EST
I have an off peak electric hot water heater that was installed by the previous owner. It is on its own meter. It is 80 gallons flipping huge the previous owner had a whirlpool tub I ripped it out and sold it on craigslist. It costs me ~$40 a month . $30 for the electricity $10 because it has its own meter or some BS. I thought about swapping it out when oil was cheap. Glad I didn't. You can get some super efficient electric water heaters because there is no flue to waste heat.

I have a pellet stove that heats my small house with oil forced air as backup if it gets really cold. It costs me around $600 to heat for the winter 2 1/2 tons of pellets. Been burning pellets for 5-6 years. best thing I ever did.
drmgallen  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:07:29 PM EST
Yah...mine was about $3.64 a gal last fill up...

More expensive than the gas for my truck..
IchWarrior  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:09:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


I have an outdoor wood boiler.

My tankless water heater and boiler have sat, burning nary a gallon of propane all winter.

Thank you, Central Boiler... you freed me from the bondage of fossil fuels
Jeep29  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:10:36 PM EST
We cook and heat with propane. Just paid $414 for 150 gallons yesterday.
saabdrifter  [Member]
1/20/2012 6:10:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By redoubt:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Quit heating hot water and save money.



Beat me too it.
theskuh  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:11:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By IchWarrior:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


I have an outdoor wood boiler.

My tankless water heater and boiler have sat, burning nary a gallon of propane all winter.

Thank you, Central Boiler... you freed me from the bondage of fossil fuels


My dad has one running two houses and his large shop. The amount of money that it has saved him is astronomical. Now NY is going to make him take it down or some shit. That state is the suck.
WinstonSmith  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:12:40 PM EST
We run propane for the stove and hot water. Fill the 250 up every nine months or so.

Heat is oil, with wood supplement.
brass  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:15:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Timco:
Best value per BTU is natural gas. Oil second. Then propane. Electric is most expensive.


Electric is cheaper than Propane. Natural Gas is overall best for a "piped in" source.

Propane Prices past, present, future, and how to save money

Check out Page 4 for the rundown on best BTU per $US (PDF File) Covers ALL forms of heating, and how much it will cost to heat your home for an average winter. From University of IL.
mongo001  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:18:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Either you have

A. a leak
B. LOTS of women/girls taking loooooooooong hot baths/showers
C. propane co is screwing you.

We use propane for water heater only , 3 females + me , we use about 250-300 gal per YEAR !




+1 for a leak. You shouldn't be using that much. I have a pellet stove that adds alot of heat, but not all of it. The furnace runs some and I'm using about a third of what the OP is using.
IchWarrior  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:19:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By theskuh:
Originally Posted By IchWarrior:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


I have an outdoor wood boiler.

My tankless water heater and boiler have sat, burning nary a gallon of propane all winter.

Thank you, Central Boiler... you freed me from the bondage of fossil fuels


My dad has one running two houses and his large shop. The amount of money that it has saved him is astronomical. Now NY is going to make him take it down or some shit. That state is the suck.


He can't even get the newer EPA certified stoves and run one of them?
toothandnail  [Member]
1/20/2012 6:20:15 PM EST
WOW , you guys are getting SCREWED , I fill/filled up in Aug. paid WELL under $2.00 a gallon , I'm thinkin it was $1.67 or $1.87. can't remember exactly.
fxntime  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:20:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Yah...mine was about $3.64 a gal last fill up...

More expensive than the gas for my truck..


Spot Market price right now is about 2.24 a gallon. You're getting raped and need to shop around.

Nat gas for me. $60-$70 a month in the winter for heat [95%plus 2 stage furnace] plus 50 gallon high efficiency water heater.
drmgallen  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:22:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Yah...mine was about $3.64 a gal last fill up...

More expensive than the gas for my truck..


Spot Market price right now is about 2.24 a gallon. You're getting raped and need to shop around.


I should of known after they stuck a sticker on my tank for sucker...

bobwrench  [Member]
1/20/2012 6:23:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By redoubt:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Quit heating hot water and save money.


+1

RIA45ACP  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:23:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Holy shit. We use ours for the same 3 things, it gets filled 2 times a year, cost is between 350 and 400 each time, we run the heat but it stays on 65 just enough to take the chill off, my guess is if your emptying the tank that quick with just cooking and water heater, you either do a shitload of cooking. Or you have a leak somewhere.
prone  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:25:15 PM EST
yeah, godamn, you gotta leak somewhere.
RangemasterP226  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:28:05 PM EST
Checked for leaks last year because that was my first thought.....NO leaks.

2 womens and me living here, yes long showers but seriously that propane is inefficient AND apparently liquid gold!
TexRdnec  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:32:05 PM EST
Buy from the small guys.

We're $2.59 right now for an example
TexRdnec  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:33:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
Checked for leaks last year because that was my first thought.....NO leaks.

2 womens and me living here, yes long showers but seriously that propane is inefficient AND apparently liquid gold!


Bull. Fucking. Shit.

Propane is anything but inefficient

4v50  [Member]
1/20/2012 6:33:56 PM EST
$2.16 in Southern CO
Roadracer49  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:42:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Holy shit. We use ours for the same 3 things, it gets filled 2 times a year, cost is between 350 and 400 each time, we run the heat but it stays on 65 just enough to take the chill off, my guess is if your emptying the tank that quick with just cooking and water heater, you either do a shitload of cooking. Or you have a leak somewhere.


I'm curious as to size/age of house and your location?

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RangemasterP226  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:43:18 PM EST
Paid $2.97/gallon today in NorCal.

House bulit in 1996 and size not a factor since we do not turn on the heater.
RIA45ACP  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 6:47:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Roadracer49:
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Holy shit. We use ours for the same 3 things, it gets filled 2 times a year, cost is between 350 and 400 each time, we run the heat but it stays on 65 just enough to take the chill off, my guess is if your emptying the tank that quick with just cooking and water heater, you either do a shitload of cooking. Or you have a leak somewhere.


I'm curious as to size/age of house and your location?

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10 year old double wide mobile home, uh 2200 square feet IIRC, with the suckiest windows I've seen in my 27 years, standing next to them with high wind outside you can feel a breeze. I'm in the hill country a little ways north of Junction.


ETA: I guess you were asking me, I'm buzzed and it seemed that way at the time.
L2Free  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 7:00:35 PM EST
That seems very high to me as well. Propane seems to be very efficient, but I get this info from a good friend who uses it, I don't have it.

Either:
Your math is off.
Your gauge is off.
Your tank has a leak.

Good luck.
theken206  [Member]
1/20/2012 7:18:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Roadracer49:
This thread is of interest to me. I just bought a new place in October and the furnaces, hot water heaters, and stove are on propane. We have a 250 gallon tank and it cost $550 to have it filled two weeks ago. The previous owner told us that he only filled the tank twice a year but I have figured out that he was full of shit as we have already filled it twice in a three month period. I could use some vasoline.

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How the hell are you using that much propane? We have a 250 gallon tank that cost about 450 to fill up and it last 5-6 months. Though the propane guy does
hook it up with about 5-15 percent for free so he doesnt have to come up during the heavy snow season. Whats the efficancy rating on your furnace? Why arent
you using a wood stove like most of the rest of us?
turb06le240  [Member]
1/20/2012 7:27:58 PM EST
What was your price per gallon, some gas companies have different rates for different usages, if you just have hot water or a stove they charge you say $4.20 a gallon, where if you have heat/HW/stove/genny, they may be $3.20 a ga... Is it a new gas company, because some co. also charge the high rate for the first delivery and a tank rental rate, and storage permit.... read your bill...
Brundoggie  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 8:09:23 PM EST
I'm totally off grid and use propane for hot water (on demand heater), cooking (stove and oven) and a gas fireplace. We get around 3-4 months on a tall tank. Cost here is just under $6/lb... welcome to paradise.
TexRdnec  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:08:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Brundoggie:
I'm totally off grid and use propane for hot water (on demand heater), cooking (stove and oven) and a gas fireplace. We get around 3-4 months on a tall tank. Cost here is just under $6/lb... welcome to paradise.


$6/lbs = $25.44/gal???

HuckMeat  [Member]
1/21/2012 6:16:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Either you have

A. a leak
B. LOTS of women/girls taking loooooooooong hot baths/showers
C. propane co is screwing you.

We use propane for water heater only , 3 females + me , we use about 250-300 gal per YEAR !


Heating water and heating a house are differernt orders of magnitude.

I have a very efficient house, I spend about $1500 per year to heat it and do hot water/cooking.
jeep450  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:19:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????



No such thing

dirtyboy  [Member]
1/21/2012 6:19:44 AM EST
$1.79 a gallon here today.
speedracer422  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:23:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????



No such thing


They make electric water heaters and electric baseboard heat can be very efficient as you can control each room; not to mention that many electric companies will give you a discounted rate if you heat with electric.


Speed

aquaman67  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:24:49 AM EST
My propane place has cheaper rates in the Summer. They have a Summer fill up program and give you a break on price.

In the dead of winter they charge more.

Supply / Demand

Call your company and see if they offer any Summer discounts.
ED_P  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:37:05 AM EST
I'm in the same boat. 500 gallon tank. Just paid $740 a week ago.

At least I've got my generator hooked upto it, so when the power goes out, I have weeks of energy instead of a couple red plastic gas gans worth.
nhsport  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 6:47:13 AM EST
The ongoing scam with Propane in my area (and many others apparently) is the local companies want you to rent their tank.
Once you rent the tank only that company will fill it.

They cite "safety" as the reason and make it very difficult for anyone to buy their own tank but apparently if one is successful in buying and installing a tank
You can shop around and get a bulk fill off season at a greatly reduced price.

I use propane for my kitchen stove and water heater.

I live alone and don't use great amounts but pay insane rates.

Because of my somewhat limited usage getting a bulk tank or switching to some other energy source doesn't make much sense.

I have lived here on this setup for 35 years and the other ongoing problem is that propane companies are like banks, you get set up with a small local
outfit that gives decent service and then they get bought out by a big non-local outfit that raises rates and kills you with service charges.

If you live far enough out in the country to not have natural gas available you get screwed
The_Beer_Slayer  [Site Staff]
1/21/2012 7:06:00 AM EST
i have propane heat and hot water. it's been about 1/2 the cost to run electric heaters in the house than run the propane. Last time i ordered about about 330.00 for 100 gallons. with very limited heating use i get about about 2-3 months out of 100 gallons. the hot water will easily run 10-12 months on that much.

my new house has gas heat and everything else electric.
pcsutton  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:12:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


You have a leak somewhere....
The_Beer_Slayer  [Site Staff]
1/21/2012 7:20:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By pcsutton:

Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


You have a leak somewhere....


i have to agree 300 gallons in 2 months is an insane amount of use if your not using the heat.
ATLDiver  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:26:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By RangemasterP226:
So, now that we live in the country, we have a 500 gallon propane tank that is used for 3 things:
Hot Water Heater
Stove
Furnace

I just had it filled up today for a cost of $934!

We NEVER turn on the Furnace, we have wood stove and use that for heat. I can't believe the price of propane! This tank was filled back in November and it was down to 20% today.

With the crazy price of propane compared to electricity, I'm wondering if there are any electric furnaces and electric water heaters????

HELP ME,

Signed,
Going Broke Because of Propane.


Yep, cooking and furnace are on propane. Last fill up was Jan 2nd for me, 128 gal @ $2.42. Thankfully the mild weather is helping me save money thus far but i also keep the thermostat at 66 degrees much to the disappointment of my wife. My local Natural Gas supplier has been running lines near me over the past year so I expect to have NG as an option in the next couple of years, when I do I'll convert everything over but it's nice having the propane as a backup with a genny.
cjk  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:28:18 AM EST
You cannot be burning all that fuel. You have a leak or someone is stealing it.

We have lp for hot water and furnace, but also supplement with wood. 500 gal will last the 2 of us 2 full years.

I had a small lp leak at a valve going to the garage last year and the smell was obvious. There is no way you could miss it.
sunspot  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:33:54 AM EST
I just got a fillup for $3.05/gl from a local vendor.
KBAD  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:36:40 AM EST
My parents live in the country too and had propane for heat, and hot water.

They just put in a geothermal unit and kept propane for the water heater.

The propane was getting too expensive to use for heating.
ED_P  [Team Member]
1/21/2012 7:38:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By sunspot:
I just got a fillup for $3.05/gl from a local vendor.


With my "rented" 500 gallon tank that came with the house, my company charged me $3.26 per gallon last week.

I agree with nhsport that the whole "renting" a tank buisness is a pretty bad scam for the consumer.



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