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USMCRONIN  [Member]
11/17/2011 7:48:46 PM EST
Digging around in my house I found a M6 Scout I bought years and years ago. Thought I lost it, last I remember shooting it I left it in a buddy's truck. He moved away and I thought it was gone. I misplaced his number and all and just figured he'd remember where it came from one day or he'd enjoy it. So I just wrote it off in my mind, stopped looking for it, low and behold I did indeed get it back but just stashed it and forgot where it was. Doh...

This is their .22 Hornet / .410 shotgun over and under version, with the funny flat trigger you can use with mittens and all. While not as cheap to shoot as a .22 long rifle the .22 hornet does have bit more punch and is pretty easy to reload for and in a pinch you can use black powder. I figured for a "survival" rifle the .22 Hornet would stand a better chance on small game. This cartridge has been around for almost 100 years. Not something I'd use on a elk by a long shot; but if Bambi's mommy or Bambi herself stepped in front of me it could do the job. Granted I'd much rather have a .308 with me in that case. .410 of course is fine for small birds and the such.

Last time I shot it it was simple to shoot and even with iron sights it wasn't a problem hitting up close, it is not want one would call a long distance rifle. Built like a tank, but I'd rather not use it to bash a bear over the head with. Made by CZ and sold by Springfield Armory.

I wonder what it would be like with a RMR Trijicon or like mini red dot. Yeah the sight would be worth more then the rifle.... But handy with it to say the least.

Another interesting fact-ette is the I believe there is a ATF approval under the AOW NFA exemption ($5 tax stamp) that allows a shorter barrel (14"). In 1938 Congress recognized that the Marble Game Getter[4] , a short .22/.410 sporting firearm, had "legitimate use" and did not deserve the stigma of "gangster weapon" and reduced the $200 tax to one dollar for the Game Getter. In 1960 Congress changed the transfer tax for all "any other weapon" (AOW) category to $5. Athens Arms produced a 14" barreled version that qualified as "Any Other Weapon" (AOW) under the NFA exemption for the Marble Game Getter: combination of rifled and smooth bore barrels between 12 and 18 inches. http://www.smallarmsreview.com/may.htm

I can't believe how these have increased in price over the years, I guess it shouldn't suppress me, everything has gone up. If I remember right I got this one new for about $150.

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Bushylover  [Team Member]
11/17/2011 7:50:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
Digging around in my house I found a M6 Scout I bought years and years ago. Thought I lost it, last I remember shooting it I left it in a buddy's truck. He moved away and I thought it was gone. I misplaced his number and all and just figured he'd remember where it came from one day or he'd enjoy it. So I just wrote it off in my mind, stopped looking for it, low and behold I did indeed get it back but just stashed it and forgot where it was. Doh...

This is their .22 Hornet / .410 shotgun over and under version, with the funny flat trigger you can use with mittens and all. While not as cheap to shoot as a .22 long rifle the .22 hornet does have bit more punch and is pretty easy to reload for and in a pinch you can use black powder. I figured for a "survival" rifle the .22 Hornet would stand a better chance on small game. This cartridge has been around for almost 100 years. Not something I'd use on a elk by a long shot; but if Bambi's mommy or Bambi herself stepped in front of me it could do the job. Granted I'd much rather have a .308 with me in that case. .410 of course is fine for small birds and the such.

Last time I shot it it was simple to shoot and even with iron sights it wasn't a problem hitting up close, it is not want one would call a long distance rifle. Built like a tank, but I'd rather not use it to bash a bear over the head with. Made by CZ and sold by Springfield Armory.

I wonder what it would be like with a RMR Trijicon or like mini red dot. Yeah the sight would be worth more then the rifle.... But handy with it to say the least.

Another interesting fact-ette is the I believe there is a ATF approval under the AOW NFA exemption ($5 tax stamp) that allows a shorter barrel (14"). In 1938 Congress recognized that the Marble Game Getter[4] , a short .22/.410 sporting firearm, had "legitimate use" and did not deserve the stigma of "gangster weapon" and reduced the $200 tax to one dollar for the Game Getter. In 1960 Congress changed the transfer tax for all "any other weapon" (AOW) category to $5. Athens Arms produced a 14" barreled version that qualified as "Any Other Weapon" (AOW) under the NFA exemption for the Marble Game Getter: combination of rifled and smooth bore barrels between 12 and 18 inches. http://www.smallarmsreview.com/may.htm

I can't believe how these have increased in price over the years, I guess it shouldn't suppress me, everything has gone up. If I remember right I got this one new for about $150.


A word of advice...you should never let ANYTHING suppress you. Aim high.

USMCRONIN  [Member]
11/17/2011 8:05:08 PM EST
Oops hit the wrong word in spell check. I'm spelling challenged. It should have been "surprised"
fireputrouter  [Team Member]
11/17/2011 8:22:10 PM EST
PIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always wanted one of those, you lucky bastage!
avtomat_badassnikov  [Member]
11/17/2011 8:27:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By fireputrouter:
PIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always wanted one of those, you lucky bastage!


+1
TheOtherDave  [Member]
11/17/2011 8:28:08 PM EST
You might be surprised what that gun is worth now if you only paid $150 and it's still in good shape....
R_Fury  [Team Member]
11/17/2011 8:39:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
You might be surprised what that gun is worth now if you only paid $150 and it's still in good shape....


I just saw one of those at a local pawn shop a couple of weeks ago.
USMCRONIN  [Member]
11/17/2011 11:39:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
You might be surprised what that gun is worth now if you only paid $150 and it's still in good shape....


It's been fired of course, but not much. Probably less then 50-100 rounds if that much, pristine condition, with the original plastic case, manuals, etc.
jerrwhy01  [Team Member]
11/17/2011 11:43:22 PM EST
I've got an M6, but in the .22LR version. It's a fun gun and I've managed to put a rabbit or two in the pot with it.
tjd  [Member]
11/18/2011 12:40:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
Bambi herself himself



fixed
shack357  [Team Member]
11/18/2011 5:15:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
This is their .22 Hornet / .410 shotgun over and under version, with the funny flat trigger you can use with mittens and all. While not as cheap to shoot as a .22 long rifle the .22 hornet does have bit more punch and is pretty easy to reload for and in a pinch you can use black powder. I figured for a "survival" rifle the .22 Hornet would stand a better chance on small game. This cartridge has been around for almost 100 years. Not something I'd use on a elk by a long shot; but if Bambi's mommy or Bambi herself stepped in front of me it could do the job. Granted I'd much rather have a .308 with me in that case. .410 of course is fine for small birds and the such.



Cool gun, but Bambi's a boy. He grows abtlers in the end of the story and runs off with Fawline.
jmarkma  [Member]
11/18/2011 5:29:29 AM EST
Neat gun but they are waaay overpriced. One came up at auction a while back, .22/.410 SS, and I bowed out at $450 which is still too high for what it is.

If they were imported again I'd venture they'd only sell for around $225.
vanilla_gorilla  [Team Member]
11/18/2011 5:35:06 AM EST
You are not far off about the .22 Hornet. A former member here had one that he loaded with softpoint 45-55 grain bullets meant for the .223 and the like. Some of those varmint bullets at 3000+ fps were actually quite impressive on other game at ~2000 fps. Changed their characteristics completely.
USMCRONIN  [Member]
11/18/2011 11:28:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By tjd:
Originally Posted By USMCRONIN:
Bambi herself himself



fixed


Holly batshit Bambi was a boy?
Well the early 1960's was a lot of brain cells ago...

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