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Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:37:22 PM
I got one of those mailers that car dealerships send out during holiday weekends and what not. This mailer had a scratch off thing with three boxes on it. If you scratched off three boxes with $25,000 you're supposed to think you won $25,000 or a Ford Fiesta. Well guess what? I scratched this sucker off and I've now got three $25,000 boxes staring back at me. I don't tend to trust car dealerships and I don't trust these mailers. Especially this one. There is this box near the bottom which says winning number 33333 or some such thing. I'm fairly certain everyone scratches off $25,000 and only by chance would someone show up with the correct winning number. I'm probably going to fo down to the dealership tomorrow to see if I've won. It'd be sweet if I did, but I'm not holding my breath.
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macro  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:38:47 PM
DAY 1
CodyC99  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:40:39 PM
Car dealership sends you a scratch off saying you won $25K or a new car.

I'm sure it's legit.

Good luck.
AMZ  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:40:42 PM
new FurryMobile ?
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:41:24 PM

Originally Posted By AMZ:
new FurryMobile ?

It'd be nice to replace my Grand Marquis, but I'd prefer cash. Daddy wants a new Plasma TV, a PS3 and a new PC.
joedirt1977  [Member]
5/27/2011 3:42:56 PM
I have the same thing, and it says I won, too. Read the fine print. The prize can be anything from a $5 Walmart gift card up to the car/$25000.
speedracer422  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:43:00 PM
Ok, I used to sell cars and I've worked w/ folks who hold "Slasher" type car sales where they send out these types of fliers.

I asked if anyone actually ever won; what i was told was that by law, they HAVE to send out 1 winning scratch off flier in accordance w/ whatever odds they have published on the flier.
HOWEVER, it is an an unspoken kinda thing w/ the direct mailing company that they send the actual winning flier to a bunk address


So, no...OP, you will not be receiving a check for $25k or a Ford Fiesta


ETA: I take that back, I saw ones where there were no actual winners of the grand prize and the guy hosting the sale made up a different number everyday and stuck it on the receptionists desk



Speed
rafey  [Member]
5/27/2011 3:43:12 PM
If you did win can I get a Team membership?
PatriotAr15  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:43:19 PM
I wish the law required everytime some advert says "You WON $25,000", that you would be legally entitled to one.
Using lame tactics like that on people should cause your business to lose money.
wastedtalent  [Member]
5/27/2011 3:44:36 PM
If it does seem legit, check the experation, and read all the fine print.

A lot of them say only valid a day or two after the postmarked time (very short window to draw in a crowd).
pilotman  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:44:49 PM
You should go, listen to the sales pitch, take a test drive, let your wife take a test drive, haggle them down, then right before you sign say "...no thanks"


Report back with AAR.
graysonp  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:46:27 PM
Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
I wish the law required everytime some advert says "You WON $25,000", that you would be legally entitled to one.
Using lame tactics like that on people should cause your business to lose money.


It does. Careful wording gets around the law. I would bet money that the OP's card does not state he has won $25,000.

It will say something to the effect of "Up to $25,000" or "You may have won", etc.
VBC  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:46:52 PM
I liked it better when they sent you the key to take to the dealership to see if it started the car.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:49:17 PM

Originally Posted By VBC:
I liked it better when they sent you the key to take to the dealership to see if it started the car.

Those things piss me off.
Admiral_Crunch  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:50:07 PM
I'm pretty sure every flier sent out has three 25Ks under the scratch offs. It's a scam to get you into the dealership.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:50:19 PM

Originally Posted By joedirt1977:
I have the same thing, and it says I won, too. Read the fine print. The prize can be anything from a $5 Walmart gift card up to the car/$25000.

Yeah I just read it again and the winning number is supposed to match something on a prize board. The scratches mean nothing.
joedirt1977  [Member]
5/27/2011 3:50:27 PM
Originally Posted By VBC:
I liked it better when they sent you the key to take to the dealership to see if it started the car.


My flier did have a key, too.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:51:21 PM

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
I'm pretty sure every fier sent out has three 25Ks under the scratch offs. It's a scam to get you into the dealership.

I have no doubt about that. When I was younger I fell for the key thing. It was a total waste of my time.
Admiral_Crunch  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:51:35 PM

Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By VBC:
I liked it better when they sent you the key to take to the dealership to see if it started the car.

Those things piss me off.

Last time I got one, it was obvious it wasn't a car key at all, and there was no non-broken ignition lock on the planet that key was going to work with.
wildearp  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 3:53:56 PM
I got a card saying I would get a free turkey if I came over to the dealer. I had to fo for an oil change anyway, so I dropped in. It was a $25 mastercard gift card which I promptly used to purchase turkey. Wild Turkey, to be exact.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:24:17 PM

Originally Posted By wildearp:
I got a card saying I would get a free turkey if I came over to the dealer. I had to fo for an oil change anyway, so I dropped in. It was a $25 mastercard gift card which I promptly used to purchase turkey. Wild Turkey, to be exact.

Johnny_Reno  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:28:51 PM
Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By joedirt1977:
I have the same thing, and it says I won, too. Read the fine print. The prize can be anything from a $5 Walmart gift card up to the car/$25000.

Yeah I just read it again and the winning number is supposed to match something on a prize board. The scratches mean nothing.



I'm sure that a business that uses deceitful advertising would be perfectly honest in any business transactions.

Blackfire  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:29:11 PM
Hedonist  [Life Member]
5/27/2011 4:29:45 PM
Nothing in life is free - in fact, you need at least a college education plus 10 years of life experience just to navigate the scams that exist just to ensnare you.

I've never won anything - and am fortunate not to have lost too much by missing details.

There's always a catch.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:33:13 PM

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By joedirt1977:
I have the same thing, and it says I won, too. Read the fine print. The prize can be anything from a $5 Walmart gift card up to the car/$25000.

Yeah I just read it again and the winning number is supposed to match something on a prize board. The scratches mean nothing.



I'm sure that a business that uses deceitful advertising would be perfectly honest in any business transactions.


Are you saying we should never trust an autosalesman?


Johnny_Reno  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:39:23 PM
Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By joedirt1977:
I have the same thing, and it says I won, too. Read the fine print. The prize can be anything from a $5 Walmart gift card up to the car/$25000.

Yeah I just read it again and the winning number is supposed to match something on a prize board. The scratches mean nothing.



I'm sure that a business that uses deceitful advertising would be perfectly honest in any business transactions.


Are you saying we should never trust an autosalesman?

http://profchristy.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83495e9d569e20115707b8105970b-800wi


No.

I'm saying that you should be wary around a dishonest salesman.

Sometimes it's difficult to tell who is honest and who isn't, but sometimes they send you a 25K fake scratchoff as a hint.

NorCal_LEO  [Site Staff]
5/27/2011 4:39:45 PM
Originally Posted By Hedonist:
Nothing in life is free - in fact, you need at least a college education plus 10 years of life experience just to navigate the scams that exist just to ensnare you.

I've never won anything - and am fortunate not to have lost too much by missing details.

There's always a catch.


I got sucked in by one of those casino barkers in glitter gulch my first time in Las Vegas. "Free slot tournament starts now, everybody wins" so I sat down with a beer and expected to walk out with a keychain or water bottle after wasting 15 minutes of my life. Sure enough I won first place out of 5 people and the gal brings out a box full of envelopes. I picked out the $1,000 cash tag.... paid for my trip aaannnndddd I got me a water bottle.
Tekka  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 4:40:16 PM

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

No.

I'm saying that you should be wary around a dishonest salesman.

Sometimes it's difficult to tell who is honest and who isn't, but sometimes they send you a 25K fake scratchoff as a hint.


I know, I'm just joking around. Even I know these things are BS.
Hedonist  [Life Member]
5/27/2011 4:48:22 PM

Originally Posted By NorCal_LEO:
Originally Posted By Hedonist:
Nothing in life is free - in fact, you need at least a college education plus 10 years of life experience just to navigate the scams that exist just to ensnare you.

I've never won anything - and am fortunate not to have lost too much by missing details.

There's always a catch.


I got sucked in by one of those casino barkers in glitter gulch my first time in Las Vegas. "Free slot tournament starts now, everybody wins" so I sat down with a beer and expected to walk out with a keychain or water bottle after wasting 15 minutes of my life. Sure enough I won first place out of 5 people and the gal brings out a box full of envelopes. I picked out the $1,000 cash tag.... paid for my trip aaannnndddd I got me a water bottle.

Yes, I put a few quarters in a slot machine when Atlantic City first went Casino - I won over $20 and went straight for the door - forever a winner.

That's how they hook you - so how has your long term gambling success been?
NorCal_LEO  [Site Staff]
5/27/2011 5:02:08 PM
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

Originally Posted By NorCal_LEO:
Originally Posted By Hedonist:
Nothing in life is free - in fact, you need at least a college education plus 10 years of life experience just to navigate the scams that exist just to ensnare you.

I've never won anything - and am fortunate not to have lost too much by missing details.

There's always a catch.


I got sucked in by one of those casino barkers in glitter gulch my first time in Las Vegas. "Free slot tournament starts now, everybody wins" so I sat down with a beer and expected to walk out with a keychain or water bottle after wasting 15 minutes of my life. Sure enough I won first place out of 5 people and the gal brings out a box full of envelopes. I picked out the $1,000 cash tag.... paid for my trip aaannnndddd I got me a water bottle.

Yes, I put a few quarters in a slot machine when Atlantic City first went Casino - I won over $20 and went straight for the door - forever a winner.

That's how they hook you - so how has your long term gambling success been?


Not a big gambler. I occasionally throw a few bucks into some slots and maybe some 21 when I go to Nevada but that's it. I don't really keep track but I suspect I'm firmly in the long term "loser" column.
Ohio_Bill  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 5:03:12 PM
The good news: it's really 25,000 dollars.

The bad news: 25,000 Zimbabwean dollars.
stud-anowski  [Member]
5/27/2011 5:06:48 PM
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

Originally Posted By NorCal_LEO:
Originally Posted By Hedonist:
Nothing in life is free - in fact, you need at least a college education plus 10 years of life experience just to navigate the scams that exist just to ensnare you.

I've never won anything - and am fortunate not to have lost too much by missing details.

There's always a catch.


I got sucked in by one of those casino barkers in glitter gulch my first time in Las Vegas. "Free slot tournament starts now, everybody wins" so I sat down with a beer and expected to walk out with a keychain or water bottle after wasting 15 minutes of my life. Sure enough I won first place out of 5 people and the gal brings out a box full of envelopes. I picked out the $1,000 cash tag.... paid for my trip aaannnndddd I got me a water bottle.

Yes, I put a few quarters in a slot machine when Atlantic City first went Casino - I won over $20 and went straight for the door - forever a winner.

That's how they hook you - so how has your long term gambling success been?


The way to truely win everytime, is sit at slot machines and only play when the drink lady comes around... My family does a 2 week vacation in lake Tahoe each year (on the boarder of CA and NV), so I bring a college buddy and we hit the casinos each night with the rest of my family. We will sit on the slots and slowly play when the free drink lady comes by. Every time we spend maybe $10 at the slots, but will get 7 or 8 free drinks out of it before walking over to the bars.
simplemitch  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 5:13:03 PM
It's good for a $5 gift card.

Look at the fine print. Likely the odds are numbers like this


Grand Prize = 1 in 250,000
1st prize = 1 in 250,000
2nd prize = 1 in 250,000
$5 card = 249,997 in 250,000


A near one to one odd of getting the $5 gift card. i always go in, get my $5 card, tell them "No, I can't afford a new car today. good bye." and off i go.

About once a month here.
woofum  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 5:20:22 PM
Originally Posted By simplemitch:
It's good for a $5 gift card.

Look at the fine print. Likely the odds are numbers like this


Grand Prize = 1 in 250,000
1st prize = 1 in 250,000
2nd prize = 1 in 250,000
$5 card = 249,997 in 250,000


A near one to one odd of getting the $5 gift card. i always go in, get my $5 card, tell them "No, I can't afford a new car today. good bye." and off i go.

About once a month here.


Really?

I don't know what your time is worth..but I wouldn't walk across the street for a five dollar bill unless it was laying on the ground.
PatriotAr15  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 5:38:37 PM


I love that image!!!
PatriotAr15  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 5:40:09 PM

Originally Posted By Tekka:
I got one of those mailers that car dealerships send out during holiday weekends and what not. This mailer had a scratch off thing with three boxes on it. If you scratched off three boxes with $25,000 you're supposed to think you won $25,000 or a Ford Fiesta. Well guess what? I scratched this sucker off and I've now got three $25,000 boxes staring back at me. I don't tend to trust car dealerships and I don't trust these mailers. Especially this one. There is this box near the bottom which says winning number 33333 or some such thing. I'm fairly certain everyone scratches off $25,000 and only by chance would someone show up with the correct winning number. I'm probably going to fo down to the dealership tomorrow to see if I've won. It'd be sweet if I did, but I'm not holding my breath.

This is off topic...but regarding your avatar... is that a picture of your girlfriend, and then you in the background?
zanthope  [Member]
5/27/2011 5:54:27 PM
They have mailed out many thousands of those flyers and not just in your area, the object being to snare your phone number and beat you to death with phone calls
for the rest of your life. The law says there has to be a winner, and there will be, somewhere, sometime, just not for a car or a bundle of cash. That offer may run for months, and in several states.

There is an insurance policy on those prizes and if, heaven forbid, someone actually wins something in that game/scam, the insurance company has to pony up.

I sold cars for three years. May have to go back
turp_dog  [Team Member]
5/27/2011 6:47:27 PM
I took a scratch off ticket to a car dealer one saturday when the wife and I were bored. We walked out with a $2 bill and a 2008 Honda Civic. The salesman left for the evening with a $17,500 sale.

Moral of the story: Never take your wife to a car lot.
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