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steinlok87  [Member]
12/29/2010 10:32:24 AM EST
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs
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Gunnerpalace  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:36:39 AM EST
It is.

ETA: Anybody who vaguely knows about UN disarmament programs and how the peacekeeping goes would agree
Dave_A  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:37:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs

It all goes back to Alex Jones and a crazy conspiracy theory that the US government would 'invite the UN to invade the US'.... Usually connected with similar tripe about FEMA running 'camps'....

For 'proof', he used photos of trains carrying broken down Soviet military vehicles, obtained after the cold war for use as targets on US military ranges...

Supposedly, the UN 'Army' has been hiding (in the national parks, under an airport in Texas, blah-blah-blah)....

It's a bunch of bullshit.
outofbattery  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:40:14 AM EST
These people were around long,long before the innerweb.Just like every other group of idiots,it just gives people who listen to Alex Jones and read The Turner Diaries an easier ability to connect and further convince themselves that they aren't crazy.

You are trying to apply logic to highly illogical people.To understand them,you have to go along with such notions as the Illuminati,NWO,Bilderburgers etc etc etc and it's best to just ignore the crazy talk.
AR15freak2  [Member]
12/29/2010 10:40:22 AM EST
UN ....is it fo time LOL
Rustygun  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:41:06 AM EST
“"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
- Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

(in an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting at Evian, France, on May 21, 1991. As transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. )”

Think this is true?
wingnutx  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:43:31 AM EST
I would tell you, but I think they are logging my keystrokes
South_Side_Shooter  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:43:59 AM EST
For old times sake...
N1Rampage  [Member]
12/29/2010 10:44:27 AM EST
Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...
FLAL1A  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:46:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs

It all goes back to Alex Jones and a crazy conspiracy theory that the US government would 'invite the UN to invade the US'.... Usually connected with similar tripe about FEMA running 'camps'....

For 'proof', he used photos of trains carrying broken down Soviet military vehicles, obtained after the cold war for use as targets on US military ranges...

Supposedly, the UN 'Army' has been hiding (in the national parks, under an airport in TexasColorado, blah-blah-blah)....

It's a bunch of bullshit.


Jeez, Dave, do you even read the newsletter anymore?
seven-six-two  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:47:48 AM EST
The UN is not Europe.

Look at the composition of UN peacekeeping "forces" and you'll see many 2nd or 3rd-world armies participating.

The "peacekeepers" would be third world thugs in uniform and would be invited by the US Government in order to do things that the US armed forces would rightly turn around and shoot their Commanding Officers for even having the temerity to suggest.
Gunnerpalace  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:48:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...


That's what I was gonna say, The Indians and Pakistanis are the only ones (+ other small countries) who can make any money off peacekeeping.

DK-Prof  [Moderator]
12/29/2010 10:51:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...


The UN doesn't have a "fighting force" or a standing army - when there's a need or mandate for peacekeepers, countries are asked to volunteer troops for particular missions. If nobody is willing to volunteer troops, then no UN troops will be going.


The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops. After all, the UN cannot send peace-keeping troops anywhere if they are not requested by that country (or by a country involved in a conflict). Thus, in the hypothetical case, if UN troops were invited to the U.S., who has the actual authority? Would it require an act of Congress, i.e. a law? Or would it require the same kind of vote in Congress that a treaty would require? (I think that's a supermajoirty). Or, is it something that the executive coudl request on the President's authority?

As a purely hypothetical technical question, I am curious about that - and I wonder if it's even clear, or would have to be litigated and taken to the Supreme Court.
wingnutx  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:52:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.
Cypher15  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:55:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By seven-six-two:
The UN is not Europe.

Look at the composition of UN peacekeeping "forces" and you'll see many 2nd or 3rd-world armies participating.

The "peacekeepers" would be third world thugs in uniform and would be invited by the US Government in order to do things that the US armed forces would rightly turn around and shoot their Commanding Officers for even having the temerity to suggest.

not to mention that most of those third world retards could be beaten by a single sgt sugar cookie who knew how to properly shoot.
DK-Prof  [Moderator]
12/29/2010 10:56:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.



Really?


Man, I need to pay more attention at our meetings.
wingnutx  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:57:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.



Really?


Man, I need to pay more attention at our meetings.

Those meetings are just a red herring.


Cypher15  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 10:58:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.



Really?


Man, I need to pay more attention at our meetings.
search through how we invited and got french help during the revolution and that will probably give you an idea of who or wht has the authority if any.

ruger556boy  [Member]
12/29/2010 10:59:56 AM EST
Its in a book called "The Patriot". Pretty much the US economy crashes and the UN invades to collect our debt. Its a good book kind of a red dawn knock off but very good.
68_Mustang  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:02:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...

The UN pays those guys more in a month, than they would make in a year from their governments.

I served with some MP's from India while in Haiti. We had to switch to the baby blue berets halfway through the deployment. They were some cool guys and their food was awesome. The only bad thing I can say about them is that they had poor choice in porn.
LW303  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:02:35 AM EST
If everyone in the country huffed paint, then everyone in the country would become confused, irrational, and delusional, and everyone would believe that there were UN Peacekeepers in the US.

GotGuns  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:02:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.



Really?


Man, I need to pay more attention at our meetings.

Those meetings are just a red herring.




Meetings? What meetings. I know not of any meetings. Whelp, gotta be going now. Been real nice talkin to ya. <whistles as he backs out of the thread>
DK-Prof  [Moderator]
12/29/2010 11:07:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Cypher15:

...

search through how we invited and got french help during the revolution and that will probably give you an idea of who or wht has the authority if any.



You can't just tell me? Pretty please?

Although, we didn't HAVE the Constitution and all that stuff (like Congress, etc.) even set up during the Revolution, right? So are you sure that precedent would apply?
Sturmgewehr-58  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:07:36 AM EST
Canadian military were in Louisiana after Hurricane Gustav in 2008.
agillig  [Member]
12/29/2010 11:07:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...


The UN doesn't have a "fighting force" or a standing army - when there's a need or mandate for peacekeepers, countries are asked to volunteer troops for particular missions. If nobody is willing to volunteer troops, then no UN troops will be going.


The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops. After all, the UN cannot send peace-keeping troops anywhere if they are not requested by that country (or by a country involved in a conflict). Thus, in the hypothetical case, if UN troops were invited to the U.S., who has the actual authority? Would it require an act of Congress, i.e. a law? Or would it require the same kind of vote in Congress that a treaty would require? (I think that's a supermajoirty). Or, is it something that the executive coudl request on the President's authority?

As a purely hypothetical technical question, I am curious about that - and I wonder if it's even clear, or would have to be litigated and taken to the Supreme Court.

Playing devil's advocate for a second...If there were some kind of civil unrest during an election for instance, a President could request UN peacekeepers, if it was felt the host nation's mililtary was corrupt or would show favortism to one group.
Blackfire  [Member]
12/29/2010 11:09:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.

It's the Pentavirate. You know, the Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits-up.
Troubl3shooter  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:17:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By N1Rampage:

Considering the vast (like 90%) of the UN's fighting force is from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Egypt, and Nepal...

I'd be more worried about cholera...
Philmore  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:19:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By Blackfire:

Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:



The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.

It's the Pentavirate. You know, the Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went breasts tits-up.


Breasts. They're breasts. In honor of the only chicken fast food magnate on the Penta.....um that board thingy there ya know. I heard they were gonna rule the world and we all had to eat chicken.

ETA: I figure it would take the C-in-C and the Congress to pass a resolution for request of UN peacekeepers. Hell, we'd be the ones bringing them here. They can't do too much airlifting or moving without our AF or Navy.
Unless there is another supermajority like we just witnessed, if any one branch tried to pull the UN in, there would be a big power struggle between branches and probably nothing would happen. I do not think the US military complex would allow them to just waltz in and go where they wanted when they wanted. Not today's military.
Come back and lets discuss this again after the Zero wins re-election and our debt load buries us under the debris of a wrecked economy. But I still doubt anyone could get here in large numbers if we aren't the prime movers. But thats just my thinking.
outofbattery  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:21:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-58:
Canadian military were in Louisiana after Hurricane Gustav in 2008.


This is a Republic of Singapore Air Force Chinook over NOLA:



Like the Canadians,Bangladeshis et al who asked if they could be of assistance,and were made welcome,they were not a combat force and while they probably were not strictly needed,it is nice for another country to at least make the gesture of offering assistance.Furthermore,turning them down while people were still in need would have been bad form. I am not opposed to such things any more than I take offense that Germany has trained most of their fighter pilots in AZ or that other nations take part in Red Flag.However,the nutcases out there see this as only proof of the future takeover.

Sleepy1988  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:23:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs


Afghanistan and Iraq are poor brown Muslim countries who are just trying to resist an imperialist oppressor. The USA is an evil, racist, white, oppressor, imperialist, capitalist nation that must be restrained in the name of world peace. At least that's how all the communists and fanatical socialists in Europe will see it.

ETA:Just to clarify things with all of our European brothers on this forum, when I say "all the communists and fanatical socialists in Europe", I only mean communists and fanatical socialists. I'm not referring to those in Europe who are indifferent or hold a positive view of the US.
madmathew  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:26:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-58:
Canadian military were in Louisiana after Hurricane Gustav in 2008.


This is a Republic of Singapore Air Force Chinook over NOLA:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/118sqn/Katrina_3.jpg

Like the Canadians,Bangladeshis et al who asked if they could be of assistance,and were made welcome,they were not a combat force and while they probably were not strictly needed,it is nice for another country to at least make the gesture of offering assistance.Furthermore,turning them down while people were still in need would have been bad form. I am not opposed to such things any more than I take offense that Germany has trained most of their fighter pilots in AZ or that other nations take part in Red Flag.However,the nutcases out there see this as only proof of the future takeover.

They come over here for training. Sucks that their FEs have water wings and my unit doesn't


AFA the subject matter, I think our armed civilians would kick the Euro armies asses.

GiggleSmith  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:29:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.

You mean the same ones that came up with the ideas that The Commander in Thief is a) Muslim, b) Not American Born, c) Janet Reno's Love Slave, ad infinitum....
wingnutx  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:30:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

The ONE thing I am curious about is the question of WHO has the authority to "invite" in UN troops.

The secret cabal.

Duh.

You mean the same ones that came up with the ideas that The Commander in Thief is a) Muslim, b) Not American Born, c) Janet Reno's Love Slave, ad infinitum....

That's the not-so-secret cabal.
Philmore  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:33:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs


Afghanistan and Iraq are poor brown Muslim countries who are just trying to resist an imperialist oppressor. The USA is an evil, racist, white, oppressor, imperialist, capitalist nation that must be restrained in the name of world peace. At least that's how all the communists and fanatical socialists in Europe will see it.


The concept of looting may be an attraction for everyone we are supposed to have taken from to achieve our standard of living. It won't be like Lootie and friends after a disaster - fast and furious. It would be more like ZImbabwe where the looting is sanctioned and directed by the gov't here. There were hints of this in peoples comments after the last Presidential elections. Let the banana republic take full form here and you might see some startling things in the future. But I don't think any blue helmets could ride from coast to coast. Never make it.

TheOtherDave  [Member]
12/29/2010 11:38:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs


You do know we have formal agreements with Canada for sharing military forces in times of "emergency", right?

That day would really suck. I like me some Canadians!
colklink  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:41:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:
The UN is not Europe.

Look at the composition of UN peacekeeping "forces" and you'll see many 2nd or 3rd-world armies participating.

The "peacekeepers" would be third world thugs in uniform and would be invited by the US Government in order to do things that the US armed forces would rightly turn around and shoot their Commanding Officers for even having the temerity to suggest.



But then why wouldnt the US service person then shoot the third world thug brought over?
sparsedirect  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:42:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-58:
Canadian military were in Louisiana after Hurricane Gustav in 2008.


Full-up armed?
Mech2007  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 11:44:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By colklink:
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:
The UN is not Europe.

Look at the composition of UN peacekeeping "forces" and you'll see many 2nd or 3rd-world armies participating.

The "peacekeepers" would be third world thugs in uniform and would be invited by the US Government in order to do things that the US armed forces would rightly turn around and shoot their Commanding Officers for even having the temerity to suggest.



But then why wouldnt the US service person then shoot the third world thug brought over?



Because he Vas Chust Following Orders, Herr Colonel!!!

110  [Member]
12/29/2010 1:40:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs

It all goes back to Alex Jones and a crazy conspiracy theory that the US government would 'invite the UN to invade the US'.... Usually connected with similar tripe about FEMA running 'camps'....

For 'proof', he used photos of trains carrying broken down Soviet military vehicles, obtained after the cold war for use as targets on US military ranges...

Supposedly, the UN 'Army' has been hiding (in the national parks, under an airport in Texas, blah-blah-blah)....

It's a bunch of bullshit.


And when it is'nt the UN, they substitute with China. I dont trust the Chinese myself, but conspiracy theories that involve any foreign power on US soil ready to take us over from within involve a degree of paranoia that not even im capable of. There are probably more pictures of UFO's then pictures of human manpower/firepower of foreign military here.

ColtM4  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 2:29:49 PM EST
IIRC we had NATO fighter patrolling US skies after 9/11
LARRYG  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 2:33:08 PM EST

seven-six-two  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 3:44:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By colklink:
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:
The UN is not Europe.

Look at the composition of UN peacekeeping "forces" and you'll see many 2nd or 3rd-world armies participating.

The "peacekeepers" would be third world thugs in uniform and would be invited by the US Government in order to do things that the US armed forces would rightly turn around and shoot their Commanding Officers for even having the temerity to suggest.



But then why wouldnt the US service person then shoot the third world thug brought over?

Because he won't be given the chance.

Why do you think they keep all the guns and bad shit that goes "boom" locked up and everyone disarmed on base when stateside?
Lord_Grey_Boots  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 3:51:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-58:
Canadian military were in Louisiana after Hurricane Gustav in 2008.


And that had nothing to do with the UN.
MajorStumpDemon  [Member]
12/29/2010 3:55:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By steinlok87:
Once in a while in gun forums I see a few posters express concern over UN peacekeepers on American soil. Some even post images of a blue helmet with bullet holes. Why would there ever be UN peacekeepers on American soil in the first place? Do you really think that Europe would support any armed forces in the U.S, when they don't even support them being in Afghanistan or Iraq? The idea of UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Dallas or Atlanta is one of the most asinine things I've heard on the interwebs


there are between 200,000 and 400,000 bivouacked in hidden camps in the swamps in lousiana waiting for the balloon to go up.

Charging_Handle  [Member]
12/29/2010 4:03:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By ColtM4:
IIRC we had NATO fighter patrolling US skies after 9/11


Was it NATO fighters or NATO AWACS? I remember it being the latter.
AeroE  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 4:03:50 PM EST
Please don't shoot them all along the coastal states, we want a few to make their way to the Midwest. I would need a few days off to get to a coast.

If they land at Lambert with intentions of spreading out like bacteria, don't mess around getting here, there won't be much left but the scrap metal they bring.



Mech2007  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 4:05:27 PM EST


Somebody has to help Hillary enforce the U.N. gun control treaty.


America-first  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 4:07:58 PM EST
Trapshooter12  [Member]
12/29/2010 4:08:07 PM EST
In the early 80's I was talking to an old man and he was worried that the Russian wouldn't need to attack the US, that they would be invited in through the UN.

Now think 30 years ahead and the US .Gov will invite the UN in to quell an insurection............
68_Mustang  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 4:14:34 PM EST
Here is a photo of my unit in 1996:

Gunnerpalace  [Team Member]
12/29/2010 4:30:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By 68_Mustang:
Here is a photo of my unit in 1996:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/rmcfarland_bucket/un.jpg






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