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10/22/2011 4:48:31 PM
I am ready to start my second batch of applewein and wondering about sanitizing. I have a 6 gallon plastic carboy,a rubber stopper and plastic airlock. Also I have a bottle of hydrogen peroxide sitting in the closet and wonder if this will be useful.
10/22/2011 4:58:12 PM
Don't use peroxide!
Get some Saniclean by Five Star
You can use Potassium Metabisulfite, but I really like Saniclean.
PBW is good for removing any organic material, saniclean sanitizes.
Get some Saniclean by Five Star
You can use Potassium Metabisulfite, but I really like Saniclean.
PBW is good for removing any organic material, saniclean sanitizes.
10/22/2011 5:15:11 PM
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
Don't fear the foam.
10/22/2011 5:32:22 PM
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
Star San is basically the regular version of Saniclean. Saniclean is low foam.
If you pump it through a diaphram pump, definately use Saniclean!
I use Star San as well.
10/22/2011 6:43:11 PM
Where do you get it ?
10/22/2011 8:39:47 PM
Originally Posted By paulx:
Where do you get it ?
Where do you get it ?
Most online homebrew stores carry all kinds of sanitizers.
I use Brewmaster's Warehouse for most of my stuff.
10/22/2011 8:56:22 PM
I use Starsan to sanitize, and oxy clean to clean my fermenters, bottles, and kegs.
10/22/2011 10:33:50 PM
Originally Posted By hungrymonkey:
I use Starsan to sanitize, and oxy clean to clean my fermenters, bottles, and kegs.
I use Starsan to sanitize, and oxy clean to clean my fermenters, bottles, and kegs.
I have three kegs, filled with hot oxy water, soaking in the back yard.
Good stuff, but you want to use unscented oxyclean. The scented crap will give your rings a smell. I like the "Sunclean" generic from Wal-Mart. $2.89 a container.
10/22/2011 11:30:25 PM
Originally Posted By paulx:
Where do you get it ?
Where do you get it ?
Any online home brew website. Pretty cheap and works great.
10/23/2011 1:20:59 AM
oxy is amazing stuff. I usually mix up five gallons when cleaning the fermenter, then recycle it to clean other stuff.
I pan fried chicken yesterday, using bacon grease. I filled the pan with oxyclean and let it sit for awhile. Came right off with minimal scrubbing.
Also, I bought the StarSan at my LHBS. I was over at a buddies and saw that he had kegged 5 gallons of starSan, and had it under pressure. When he wanted some, he just dispensed it. I thought it was a pretty slick Idea, so I copied him.
I pan fried chicken yesterday, using bacon grease. I filled the pan with oxyclean and let it sit for awhile. Came right off with minimal scrubbing.
Also, I bought the StarSan at my LHBS. I was over at a buddies and saw that he had kegged 5 gallons of starSan, and had it under pressure. When he wanted some, he just dispensed it. I thought it was a pretty slick Idea, so I copied him.
10/23/2011 8:13:18 PM
I use oxyclean (free or unscented or whatever it is in the big tub), then starsan.
10/23/2011 10:58:59 PM
Originally Posted By paulx:
Where do you get it ?
Where do you get it ?
Where are you in Ohio?
Cincinnati? - Try Listermann's
Columbis? - Try Wine Makers Shop
Cleveland? - Try Google Can't vouch for any of these, as I've never been to any of them.
10/23/2011 11:39:45 PM
Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
10/24/2011 12:16:54 AM
Originally Posted By paulx:
Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
save it for when you cut yourself.Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
10/24/2011 3:36:16 AM
Originally Posted By UBB:
Originally Posted By paulx:
Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
save it for when you cut yourself.Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
not even that good for cuts. He could clean his ears with it. Get some liquid stool softener capsules, then dilute the h2o2 and rinse them out. Works like a charm.
10/24/2011 8:03:09 AM
Originally Posted By paulx:
Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
Thanks, I guess I`ll stop at the place in So Euclid and get whatever. I need yeast and a racking tube too. Wondering what to do with hydrogen peroxide...
If you're in NEO, then you might want to check out Grape and Granary for brewing and wine making supplies. http://www.grapeandgranary.com/
I usually do my bulk grain ordering through there online and pick up the next day.
11/5/2011 7:46:22 PM
I do it caveman style with bleach.
Just make sure you rinse well.
11/6/2011 9:07:40 AM
For final sanitizing I use Idophor. Made per bottle directions. Been doing this for well over 15 years.
Since I just switched to Better Bottles (plastic carboys) and kegs, my BIL introduced me to Oxy Pro. He quit using Oxy Clean when they started adding fragrance. Maybe not all OC but smell is no good for beer equiptment.
The Oxy Pro can be had at Safeway stores, low cost and fragrance free. Works great for initial cleaning of the gunk...I mix a batch into a rinsed carboy, and a micro fiber dish rag, swirl away and it's clean in minutes. Easier than the brush method I used for years on glass carboys.
Since I just switched to Better Bottles (plastic carboys) and kegs, my BIL introduced me to Oxy Pro. He quit using Oxy Clean when they started adding fragrance. Maybe not all OC but smell is no good for beer equiptment.
The Oxy Pro can be had at Safeway stores, low cost and fragrance free. Works great for initial cleaning of the gunk...I mix a batch into a rinsed carboy, and a micro fiber dish rag, swirl away and it's clean in minutes. Easier than the brush method I used for years on glass carboys.
11/6/2011 1:22:27 PM
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
^^^^This...Star San is the only way to rock.
11/7/2011 9:45:28 AM
Originally Posted By ATLDiver:
^^^^This...Star San is the only way to rock.
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
^^^^This...Star San is the only way to rock.
Bingo!
11/8/2011 12:34:54 PM
Originally Posted By speeddemon11L:
Bingo!
Originally Posted By ATLDiver:
^^^^This...Star San is the only way to rock.
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
I use Star San. It works GREAT.
Don't fear the foam.
^^^^This...Star San is the only way to rock.
Bingo!
+1
All I use.
11/13/2011 11:31:38 AM
I've been using bleach with no noticeably (to me) bad effects for a while now except...
...I just noticed that some of my glass carboys have some mild pitting in them. I probably used too much bleach, but I think I'll be switching to StarSan or Iodophor now. That and rinsing is getting to be one more pain.
...I just noticed that some of my glass carboys have some mild pitting in them. I probably used too much bleach, but I think I'll be switching to StarSan or Iodophor now. That and rinsing is getting to be one more pain.
12/4/2011 8:19:19 AM
I just use bleach for everything except sanitizing kegs. I'll use star-san for that.
Star-san is also good for clothing (especially undershirts) when it gets that perpetual stench––the kind that you think you managed to wash out, but that shows up soon after you put it back on. Just soak in a star-san solution, and no more stench.
Star-san is also good for clothing (especially undershirts) when it gets that perpetual stench––the kind that you think you managed to wash out, but that shows up soon after you put it back on. Just soak in a star-san solution, and no more stench.
12/4/2011 11:10:49 AM
I have done about 15 AG batches. I always mix up a full five gallons of Star-San if I'm brewing or bottling. I started out with a 2/3 full container of Star-San that my buddy gave me when I started brewing. I just now ran out. I think it's a good value.
12/5/2011 3:57:19 PM
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Most online homebrew stores carry all kinds of sanitizers.
I use Brewmaster's Warehouse for most of my stuff.
Originally Posted By paulx:
Where do you get it ?
Where do you get it ?
Most online homebrew stores carry all kinds of sanitizers.
I use Brewmaster's Warehouse for most of my stuff.
I used Brewmaster's as well. It's a great site.
12/10/2011 5:15:49 PM
Originally Posted By OrARGB:
For final sanitizing I use Idophor. Made per bottle directions. Been doing this for well over 15 years.
Since I just switched to Better Bottles (plastic carboys) and kegs, my BIL introduced me to Oxy Pro. He quit using Oxy Clean when they started adding fragrance. Maybe not all OC but smell is no good for beer equiptment.
The Oxy Pro can be had at Safeway stores, low cost and fragrance free. Works great for initial cleaning of the gunk...I mix a batch into a rinsed carboy, and a micro fiber dish rag, swirl away and it's clean in minutes. Easier than the brush method I used for years on glass carboys.
For final sanitizing I use Idophor. Made per bottle directions. Been doing this for well over 15 years.
Since I just switched to Better Bottles (plastic carboys) and kegs, my BIL introduced me to Oxy Pro. He quit using Oxy Clean when they started adding fragrance. Maybe not all OC but smell is no good for beer equiptment.
The Oxy Pro can be had at Safeway stores, low cost and fragrance free. Works great for initial cleaning of the gunk...I mix a batch into a rinsed carboy, and a micro fiber dish rag, swirl away and it's clean in minutes. Easier than the brush method I used for years on glass carboys.
Oxyclean is esentially sodium percarbonate and can be purchased fairly inexpensively from a food product supplier.
12/13/2011 11:22:05 PM
+1 for star-san and PMBS. It doesn't take much. The boil is for everything that you don't get.
...and don't use plastic. One bad batch....and you could have spent the money on stainless and glass.....be a man, buy the good shit.
...and don't use plastic. One bad batch....and you could have spent the money on stainless and glass.....be a man, buy the good shit.
12/14/2011 2:00:30 AM
better bottle PET is pretty good.
People make beer in oak barrels too.
Use some PBW and some San Star as per directions and you will have no worries.
If you know of a good stainless steel fermentor for cheap, let me know. :)
People make beer in oak barrels too.
Use some PBW and some San Star as per directions and you will have no worries.
If you know of a good stainless steel fermentor for cheap, let me know. :)
12/17/2011 2:37:19 AM
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
12/20/2011 9:58:44 PM
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
12/21/2011 8:12:58 AM
Originally Posted By usptac:
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
NO!!!!!
Don't fear the foam.
12/27/2011 10:16:22 PM
Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
NO!!!!!
Don't fear the foam.
Originally Posted By usptac:
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
NO!!!!!
Don't fear the foam.
This!
Don't fear the foam!!!
12/28/2011 8:38:05 AM
Originally Posted By Gods_Hammer:
This!
Don't fear the foam!!!
AGAIN! Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
NO!!!!!
Don't fear the foam.
Originally Posted By usptac:
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
Originally Posted By TrojanMan:
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
1) Go buy a huge jug of Star-San
2) Mix per directions, put it in a spray bottle
3) Wet down every piece of equipment before you use it
4) Never worry again
4b) Use a second type of sanitizer (such as iodophor) every 10th batch or so just to make sure you don't grow any "special" bacteria
#3, you don't rinse it away with water?
NO!!!!!
Don't fear the foam.
This!
Don't fear the foam!!!
Don't fear the foam!!!!!!111111
I usually have starsan foam everywhere when I start putting my wort in the fermenter. I also have it everywhere when I'm putting my beer in the kegs. Never had an issue with off flavors from it.
12/29/2011 10:44:29 PM
I mix up 5 gallons of Starsan when I'm going to brew. I use it to sanitize everything in the brewing process, then store it in a carboy. When I move from the primary to the secondary the carboy is already sanitary as it's been storing Starsan for 2 weeks. I use that same batch of Starsan to sanitize the bottling bucket a few weeks later, and also to sanitize the bottles or keg. How long will it remain effective after it's mixed? I have no idea but I have use it after a month or two and never had a bad batch of beer (due to infection). I toss it after the brewing cycle is complete.
1/2/2012 3:43:33 PM
Originally Posted By RedDogSoldier:
I do it caveman style with bleach.
I do it caveman style with bleach.
Just make sure you rinse well.
This. Bleach is cheaper.
1/16/2012 7:38:18 PM
Originally Posted By hungrymonkey:
I use Starsan to sanitize, and oxy clean to clean my fermenters, bottles, and kegs.
I use Starsan to sanitize, and oxy clean to clean my fermenters, bottles, and kegs.
Yup.
1/16/2012 8:08:37 PM
I'll have to pick up some oxy
Any tips?
Any tips?
1/17/2012 9:56:34 AM
Aparently you want to get the oxy clean free, I think that's what it's called, and I think it's in a green container.
I just use pbw because I'm a 5 star whore.
I just use pbw because I'm a 5 star whore.
1/17/2012 5:39:33 PM
Originally Posted By Zam18th:
I'll have to pick up some oxy
Any tips?
I'll have to pick up some oxy
Any tips?
Don't use it on anything aluminum.
1/18/2012 8:19:15 PM
Another for Star San!!
For Beer stone on Glass I use Cascade Crystal & warm water.l
For Beer stone on Glass I use Cascade Crystal & warm water.l
1/23/2012 10:01:35 PM
I used bleach when i started but only use star san and doubt i will ever switch. its a no rinse and has no effect on flavor. No infected batches yet
