Russia begins to capture new Arab arms markets - envoy
14:52 | 22/ 02/ 2009
MOSCOW, February 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is beginning to capture new arms markets of Arab countries that were earlier oriented to the West, the head of the Russian Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said.
"Russia is beginning to enter new armaments markets where our presence was previously considered as hardly probable. In particular, some Persian Gulf countries, including Qatar and Kuwait, are displaying certain interest in the development of military and technical cooperation," Mikhail Dmitriyev said on the eve of an international defense exhibition opening on Sunday in the United Arab Emirates.
The Idex-2009 international defense exhibition and conference will take place in Abu Dhabi from February 22 through 26. Russian military systems and technology will be exhibited over an area of 546 square meters, including 84 square meters to be used to showcase the latest developments in Russian ammunition.
At the same time, Russia has signed and is implementing large-scale deals with Algeria, stepped up cooperation with Libya and Syria, he said. "We are switching to the establishment of partnership relations and cooperation within the general policy of developing and strengthening versatile contacts with the Arab and Islamic world."
Russia exported $8 billion worth of armaments and military hardware in 2008 and is planning to increase arms exports by 6% to $8.5 billion in 2009.
The most popular types of weaponry bought from Russia are Sukhoi and MiG fighters, warships, air defense systems, helicopters, battle tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
Russia exports weapons to over 80 countries. Among the key buyers of Russian-made weaponry are China, India, Algeria, Venezuela, Iran, Malaysia and Serbia.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090222/120258221.html
Does anyone outsell Russia now in arms? It has to be at the top of their revenue producing goods.
I wonder how much of a hit we'll take because of this...
HH
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Does anyone outsell Russia now in arms? It has to be at the top of their revenue producing goods.
I wonder how much of a hit we'll take because of this...
HH
We out sell Russia in arms sales.
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Does anyone outsell Russia now in arms? It has to be at the top of their revenue producing goods.
I wonder how much of a hit we'll take because of this...
HH
Call me crazy but with the slashing of Pentagon defense budgets and lack of overseas contracts, I wouldn't be surprised to see some defense contractors filing for bankruptcy towards the end of 2009.
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Does anyone outsell Russia now in arms? It has to be at the top of their revenue producing goods.
I wonder how much of a hit we'll take because of this...
HH
Call me crazy but with the slashing of Pentagon defense budgets and lack of overseas contracts, I wouldn't be surprised to see some defense contractors filing for bankruptcy towards the end of 2009.
Has commie-boy come out and said how much he wants to cut the Pentagon yet? It seems to me that a figure of 10% was stated a month or so ago...the defense contractors are going to take a major-league hit and once again we'll be unprepared for events in the future.
HH
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Does anyone outsell Russia now in arms? It has to be at the top of their revenue producing goods.
I wonder how much of a hit we'll take because of this...
HH
Call me crazy but with the slashing of Pentagon defense budgets and lack of overseas contracts, I wouldn't be surprised to see some defense contractors filing for bankruptcy towards the end of 2009.
Has commie-boy come out and said how much he wants to cut the Pentagon yet? It seems to me that a figure of 10% was stated a month or so ago...the defense contractors are going to take a major-league hit and once again we'll be unprepared for events in the future.
HH
Not yet but proposals are being made. Here are excerpts from a previous thread:
On Feb. 5 Jason Sherman of InsideDefense.com disclosed that Defense Secretary Robert Gates had chartered a small team of aides to draft a list of major systems that could be targeted for termination in the fiscal 2010 budget. On Feb. 6 Tony Capaccio of Bloomberg Business News reported the contents of what appears to be one such list.
No decisions have been made, but if even half the options on the list are implemented, tens of thousands of good-paying jobs are about to disappear in places where the economic outlook is already bleak.
The Navy says it needs to buy upgraded versions of the DDG-51 to protect the fleet against growing ballistic, airborne and undersea threats. Termination of the DDG-51 would endanger the 5,700 workers at Bath and some multiple of that number at other locations. Combined with a decision to forgo production of the 11th LPD-17, the DDG-51 termination would also endanger many of the 10,000 workers at the Ingalls shipyard.
Cutting production of the F/A-18 Super Hornet would destroy thousands of jobs in St. Louis, where two car plants are shutting, and at the GE jet engine factory in Massachusetts.
According to Capaccio, the hit list does not envision terminating the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but it does raise the possibility of reducing funding to save money.
That would be a false economy, because the tightly wound F-35 business plan requires timely execution and efficient production rates to hold down the cost of each plane. Tinkering with the plan now would greatly increase long-term program costs for three U.S. services and at least nine overseas allies, potentially impairing the whole effort. The loss of manufacturing jobs in Texas, Connecticut and elsewhere could number in the tens of thousands.
The economic consequences of cutting the U.S. Army's Future Combat Systems and the joint radio would be more diffuse, because those programs are still in development. But thousands of direct jobs could be lost, and prime contractor Boeing recently estimated there are three jobs indirectly tied to its programs for each direct job.
It doesn't make sense to buy unneeded weapons just to stimulate the economy, but all of the programs on the reported list meet critical military requirements and are strongly supported by the services that will receive them. So maybe someone at the White House ought to consider the connection between the administration's defense and economic policies.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=155&t=830133
The Navy says it needs to buy upgraded versions of the DDG-51 to protect the fleet against growing ballistic, airborne and undersea threats. Termination of the DDG-51 would endanger the 5,700 workers at Bath and some multiple of that number at other locations. Combined with a decision to forgo production of the 11th LPD-17, the DDG-51 termination would also endanger many of the 10,000 workers at the Ingalls shipyard.
Cutting production of the F/A-18 Super Hornet would destroy thousands of jobs in St. Louis, where two car plants are shutting, and at the GE jet engine factory in Massachusetts.
According to Capaccio, the hit list does not envision terminating the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but it does raise the possibility of reducing funding to save money.
That would be a false economy, because the tightly wound F-35 business plan requires timely execution and efficient production rates to hold down the cost of each plane. Tinkering with the plan now would greatly increase long-term program costs for three U.S. services and at least nine overseas allies, potentially impairing the whole effort. The loss of manufacturing jobs in Texas, Connecticut and elsewhere could number in the tens of thousands.
St. Louis is going to get hammered on top of what's going on. Looks like we'll take a hit, too...but more importantly, the defense contractors will get smashed. Add up the thousands of unemployed...just unreal.
HH
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
The Navy says it needs to buy upgraded versions of the DDG-51 to protect the fleet against growing ballistic, airborne and undersea threats. Termination of the DDG-51 would endanger the 5,700 workers at Bath and some multiple of that number at other locations. Combined with a decision to forgo production of the 11th LPD-17, the DDG-51 termination would also endanger many of the 10,000 workers at the Ingalls shipyard.
Cutting production of the F/A-18 Super Hornet would destroy thousands of jobs in St. Louis, where two car plants are shutting, and at the GE jet engine factory in Massachusetts.
According to Capaccio, the hit list does not envision terminating the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but it does raise the possibility of reducing funding to save money.
That would be a false economy, because the tightly wound F-35 business plan requires timely execution and efficient production rates to hold down the cost of each plane. Tinkering with the plan now would greatly increase long-term program costs for three U.S. services and at least nine overseas allies, potentially impairing the whole effort. The loss of manufacturing jobs in Texas, Connecticut and elsewhere could number in the tens of thousands.
St. Louis is going to get hammered on top of what's going on. Looks like we'll take a hit, too...but more importantly, the defense contractors will get smashed. Add up the thousands of unemployed...just unreal.
HH
Quite a bit in the D/FW area.
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Russia begins to capture new Arab arms markets - envoy
14:52 | 22/ 02/ 2009
MOSCOW, February 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is beginning to capture new arms markets of Arab countries that were earlier oriented to the West, the head of the Russian Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said.
"Russia is beginning to enter new armaments markets where our presence was previously considered as hardly probable. In particular, some Persian Gulf countries, including Qatar and Kuwait, are displaying certain interest in the development of military and technical cooperation," Mikhail Dmitriyev said on the eve of an international defense exhibition opening on Sunday in the United Arab Emirates.
The Idex-2009 international defense exhibition and conference will take place in Abu Dhabi from February 22 through 26. Russian military systems and technology will be exhibited over an area of 546 square meters, including 84 square meters to be used to showcase the latest developments in Russian ammunition.
At the same time, Russia has signed and is implementing large-scale deals with Algeria, stepped up cooperation with Libya and Syria, he said. "We are switching to the establishment of partnership relations and cooperation within the general policy of developing and strengthening versatile contacts with the Arab and Islamic world."
Russia exported $8 billion worth of armaments and military hardware in 2008 and is planning to increase arms exports by 6% to $8.5 billion in 2009.
The most popular types of weaponry bought from Russia are Sukhoi and MiG fighters, warships, air defense systems, helicopters, battle tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
Russia exports weapons to over 80 countries. Among the key buyers of Russian-made weaponry are
China, India, Algeria, Venezuela, Iran, Malaysia and Serbia.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090222/120258221.html
The countries that the West won't sell to. Russia has been hurting and the export sales are the only way to keep the Russian defense companies alive becuase the Russian military can't afford crap.
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Russia begins to capture new Arab arms markets - envoy
14:52 | 22/ 02/ 2009
MOSCOW, February 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is beginning to capture new arms markets of Arab countries that were earlier oriented to the West, the head of the Russian Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said.
"Russia is beginning to enter new armaments markets where our presence was previously considered as hardly probable. In particular, some Persian Gulf countries, including Qatar and Kuwait, are displaying certain interest in the development of military and technical cooperation," Mikhail Dmitriyev said on the eve of an international defense exhibition opening on Sunday in the United Arab Emirates.
The Idex-2009 international defense exhibition and conference will take place in Abu Dhabi from February 22 through 26. Russian military systems and technology will be exhibited over an area of 546 square meters, including 84 square meters to be used to showcase the latest developments in Russian ammunition.
At the same time, Russia has signed and is implementing large-scale deals with Algeria, stepped up cooperation with Libya and Syria, he said. "We are switching to the establishment of partnership relations and cooperation within the general policy of developing and strengthening versatile contacts with the Arab and Islamic world."
Russia exported $8 billion worth of armaments and military hardware in 2008 and is planning to increase arms exports by 6% to $8.5 billion in 2009.
The most popular types of weaponry bought from Russia are Sukhoi and MiG fighters, warships, air defense systems, helicopters, battle tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
Russia exports weapons to over 80 countries. Among the key buyers of Russian-made weaponry are China, India, Algeria, Venezuela, Iran, Malaysia and Serbia.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090222/120258221.html
We still outsell them…
From Times Online
June 18, 2008
Britain is the world’s biggest arms exporter
London Britain was the world’s biggest arms seller last year, accounting for a third of global arms exports, the Government’s trade promotion organisation said.
UK Trade and Investment (UKTI) said that arms exporters had added £9.7 billion in new business last year, giving them a larger share of global arms exports than the United States.
“As demonstrated by this outstanding export performance, the UK has a first-class defence industry, with some of the world’s most technologically sophisticated companies,” Digby Jones, the Minister for Trade and Investment, said.
UKTI said that the figures were boosted by orders for Eurofighter Typhoon jets from Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest arms buyer, which has imported $31 billion (£16 million) in weapons over the past five years. There were also orders from Oman and Trinidad and Tobago for offshore patrol vessels.
The US is still the world’s biggest exporter over the past five years, with $63 billion in total arms exports. Britain was second with $53 billion and Russia third with $33 billion.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4161341.ece