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please help me with a GSD. posted from team
11/30/2011 8:10:31 PM
I had a blk & tan when I was a kid, best dog I ever had. My wife is letting me get another for christmas and our 3yo daughter. Are there any differences between the dogs as far as color goes? What do I need to look for from the breeder while looking? thanks for the input
orginal thread
orginal thread
11/30/2011 8:15:22 PM
Originally Posted By AL50bmgshooter:
I had a blk & tan when I was a kid, best dog I ever had. My wife is letting me get another for christmas and our 3yo daughter. Are there any differences between the dogs as far as color goes? What do I need to look for from the breeder while looking? thanks for the input
I had a blk & tan when I was a kid, best dog I ever had. My wife is letting me get another for christmas and our 3yo daughter. Are there any differences between the dogs as far as color goes? What do I need to look for from the breeder while looking? thanks for the input
What do you mean, regarding temperament and coloring? If so, then no there is no correlation. It's all dependent on the blood line and how they were raised.
As for breeder info, do your homework and talk to people. Research the pedigree and see if they'll certify the hips. Look at the sire and bitch if they're on sight too, that may help you see how the pup's coloring will be once they develop and you can see the interaction and temperament of the parents.
11/30/2011 8:43:22 PM
yea color= temperment. Thanks
11/30/2011 8:51:59 PM
Color has no bearing on temperament. Unless it's a white GSD. 
You might want to include a link to your original thread since a bunch of people replied there.
Schutzhund: Theory and Training Methods has a whole chapter on how to select pup. Leerburg.com should also have some good articles.
You might want to include a link to your original thread since a bunch of people replied there.
Schutzhund: Theory and Training Methods has a whole chapter on how to select pup. Leerburg.com should also have some good articles.
11/30/2011 9:00:52 PM
updated with orginal thread
12/3/2011 10:15:35 AM
Temperament and color of course are unrelated, however a lot of the Czech/East German/working shepherds tend to have the black sable, brown sable coloration and seem to run smaller. If I were buying a german shepherd I would look to these lines due to a total lack of show blood. I just lost a long time companion who was from imported German parents and the protective instinct was very definite. I just replaced her with a Belgian Malinois that is only 4 months old. This is the most alert and protective pup I've seen, her parents both came from JoeFarm kennels in Belgium and if anything makes a sound in the dark she is growling and barking, but plays with the grandchildren like any puppy. I think she will be a great dog.
These are the typical Czech/DDR german shepherds, they also typically are squarer in build, not as sloping a back as the show ring dogs.
These are the typical Czech/DDR german shepherds, they also typically are squarer in build, not as sloping a back as the show ring dogs.
12/3/2011 12:44:08 PM
There is no direct connection between temperament and the coat.
However, some breeders like very exotic coat colors (white or the new "panda"). The only way these new colors are propagated and can be produced reliably
is when coat color is the #1 deciding factor for which dogs to breed. In other words a sickly crazy mean dog of the right color would be chosen to be the mate over a healthy, brave, solid, family friendly dog that isn't whatever color the breeder is shooting for.
Luckily there are a TON of good looking GSD coat types. This means two things.
#1 if you find a good GSD breeder, you will be able to get a beautiful dog from him even if it isn't exactly the coat you had envisioned. (Heck you may walk away with a dog that is MORE beautiful than you could imagine)
#2 as long as you stay away from White, Panda, "Biscuit" or any other odd color you should be able to find a good GSD breeder who happens to be using a set of parents who are likely to produce a litter which will have a pup with the coat type you are looking for.
http://www.total-german-shepherd.com/German-Shepherd-Coat-Colors.html
http://www.4germanshep.com/coat_colors.htm
http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm
I personally find bi-colors, black and tans with large blankets, and sable GSDs to be my favorites in the looks department.
People have mentioned working line GSDs as well as Malinos. These are great dogs for people who really know what they are doing and have the time to put a lot of work into it. Like a lot of things in life, it's never simple and effort is required to get great results.
Think of dogs like building materials. The strongest materials are both the most expensive and the most difficult to work with. This is why house frames are generally made with wood and not titanium.
An extremely athletically powerful dog will take a lot more exercise to drain his excessive energy.
An extremely alert dog will be much better exploiting missteps you make (an extremely alert dog left in a fenced yard will soon find the one spot the fence is a little shorter, or notice that if you jump on the grill you can then jump over the fence)
An extremely fast learning dog will learn at a very fast rate...including bad habits you unintentionally teach him.
An extremely intelligent dog will be able to figure a ton of things out...but will also need very complex mental stimulation or you run the risk of the dog becoming neurotic and destructive.
Get a dog that is right for you based on how much experience you have with dogs as well as how much time you can expend in walking the dog, exercising the dog, training the dog, etc etc.
In that way a good pet quality GSD or a GSD mix from the pound is probably your best bet.
However, some breeders like very exotic coat colors (white or the new "panda"). The only way these new colors are propagated and can be produced reliably
is when coat color is the #1 deciding factor for which dogs to breed. In other words a sickly crazy mean dog of the right color would be chosen to be the mate over a healthy, brave, solid, family friendly dog that isn't whatever color the breeder is shooting for.
Luckily there are a TON of good looking GSD coat types. This means two things.
#1 if you find a good GSD breeder, you will be able to get a beautiful dog from him even if it isn't exactly the coat you had envisioned. (Heck you may walk away with a dog that is MORE beautiful than you could imagine)
#2 as long as you stay away from White, Panda, "Biscuit" or any other odd color you should be able to find a good GSD breeder who happens to be using a set of parents who are likely to produce a litter which will have a pup with the coat type you are looking for.
http://www.total-german-shepherd.com/German-Shepherd-Coat-Colors.html
http://www.4germanshep.com/coat_colors.htm
http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm
I personally find bi-colors, black and tans with large blankets, and sable GSDs to be my favorites in the looks department.
People have mentioned working line GSDs as well as Malinos. These are great dogs for people who really know what they are doing and have the time to put a lot of work into it. Like a lot of things in life, it's never simple and effort is required to get great results.
Think of dogs like building materials. The strongest materials are both the most expensive and the most difficult to work with. This is why house frames are generally made with wood and not titanium.
An extremely athletically powerful dog will take a lot more exercise to drain his excessive energy.
An extremely alert dog will be much better exploiting missteps you make (an extremely alert dog left in a fenced yard will soon find the one spot the fence is a little shorter, or notice that if you jump on the grill you can then jump over the fence)
An extremely fast learning dog will learn at a very fast rate...including bad habits you unintentionally teach him.
An extremely intelligent dog will be able to figure a ton of things out...but will also need very complex mental stimulation or you run the risk of the dog becoming neurotic and destructive.
Get a dog that is right for you based on how much experience you have with dogs as well as how much time you can expend in walking the dog, exercising the dog, training the dog, etc etc.
In that way a good pet quality GSD or a GSD mix from the pound is probably your best bet.
12/7/2011 6:51:15 PM
Originally Posted By akodo:
There is no direct connection between temperament and the coat.
However, some breeders like very exotic coat colors (white or the new "panda"). The only way these new colors are propagated and can be produced reliably
is when coat color is the #1 deciding factor for which dogs to breed. In other words a sickly crazy mean dog of the right color would be chosen to be the mate over a healthy, brave, solid, family friendly dog that isn't whatever color the breeder is shooting for.
Luckily there are a TON of good looking GSD coat types. This means two things.
#1 if you find a good GSD breeder, you will be able to get a beautiful dog from him even if it isn't exactly the coat you had envisioned. (Heck you may walk away with a dog that is MORE beautiful than you could imagine)
#2 as long as you stay away from White, Panda, "Biscuit" or any other odd color you should be able to find a good GSD breeder who happens to be using a set of parents who are likely to produce a litter which will have a pup with the coat type you are looking for.
http://www.total-german-shepherd.com/German-Shepherd-Coat-Colors.html
http://www.4germanshep.com/coat_colors.htm
http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm
I personally find bi-colors, black and tans with large blankets, and sable GSDs to be my favorites in the looks department.
People have mentioned working line GSDs as well as Malinos. These are great dogs for people who really know what they are doing and have the time to put a lot of work into it. Like a lot of things in life, it's never simple and effort is required to get great results.
Think of dogs like building materials. The strongest materials are both the most expensive and the most difficult to work with. This is why house frames are generally made with wood and not titanium.
An extremely athletically powerful dog will take a lot more exercise to drain his excessive energy.
An extremely alert dog will be much better exploiting missteps you make (an extremely alert dog left in a fenced yard will soon find the one spot the fence is a little shorter, or notice that if you jump on the grill you can then jump over the fence)
An extremely fast learning dog will learn at a very fast rate...including bad habits you unintentionally teach him.
An extremely intelligent dog will be able to figure a ton of things out...but will also need very complex mental stimulation or you run the risk of the dog becoming neurotic and destructive.
Get a dog that is right for you based on how much experience you have with dogs as well as how much time you can expend in walking the dog, exercising the dog, training the dog, etc etc.
In that way a good pet quality GSD or a GSD mix from the pound is probably your best bet.
Lies! I have been attacked by 2 GSDs. One was all white. Therefor 50% of GSD attacks are by white ones!There is no direct connection between temperament and the coat.
However, some breeders like very exotic coat colors (white or the new "panda"). The only way these new colors are propagated and can be produced reliably
is when coat color is the #1 deciding factor for which dogs to breed. In other words a sickly crazy mean dog of the right color would be chosen to be the mate over a healthy, brave, solid, family friendly dog that isn't whatever color the breeder is shooting for.
Luckily there are a TON of good looking GSD coat types. This means two things.
#1 if you find a good GSD breeder, you will be able to get a beautiful dog from him even if it isn't exactly the coat you had envisioned. (Heck you may walk away with a dog that is MORE beautiful than you could imagine)
#2 as long as you stay away from White, Panda, "Biscuit" or any other odd color you should be able to find a good GSD breeder who happens to be using a set of parents who are likely to produce a litter which will have a pup with the coat type you are looking for.
http://www.total-german-shepherd.com/German-Shepherd-Coat-Colors.html
http://www.4germanshep.com/coat_colors.htm
http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm
I personally find bi-colors, black and tans with large blankets, and sable GSDs to be my favorites in the looks department.
People have mentioned working line GSDs as well as Malinos. These are great dogs for people who really know what they are doing and have the time to put a lot of work into it. Like a lot of things in life, it's never simple and effort is required to get great results.
Think of dogs like building materials. The strongest materials are both the most expensive and the most difficult to work with. This is why house frames are generally made with wood and not titanium.
An extremely athletically powerful dog will take a lot more exercise to drain his excessive energy.
An extremely alert dog will be much better exploiting missteps you make (an extremely alert dog left in a fenced yard will soon find the one spot the fence is a little shorter, or notice that if you jump on the grill you can then jump over the fence)
An extremely fast learning dog will learn at a very fast rate...including bad habits you unintentionally teach him.
An extremely intelligent dog will be able to figure a ton of things out...but will also need very complex mental stimulation or you run the risk of the dog becoming neurotic and destructive.
Get a dog that is right for you based on how much experience you have with dogs as well as how much time you can expend in walking the dog, exercising the dog, training the dog, etc etc.
In that way a good pet quality GSD or a GSD mix from the pound is probably your best bet.
