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Typical Shot Show Preview...Hurry Up and Wait
1/27/2010 10:24:45 AM
Hurry up and weight! Grab a chair and get comfy. If you need to save up $, then you are in luck! I just talked to Sig Sauer customer service. I asked the woman who answered if there was any information available regarding the release date of the 516 & 716 rifles. The woman sighed heavily and there was a long pause, then she said, with an inflection of uncertainty in her voice, "for the 516 prooooaaabably late summer....maybe a little sooner." I asked about the 716. She said "hmmm, prooooaaabably the same time." She changed her inflection back to perky and said "gives you time to save your pennies." She was polite, I want to add.
So, typical industry and Sig BS. "...maybe a little sooner." My foot! We'll be lucky if they are out in any number in late sumer, and they probably won't be out in greater numbers till late 2010 (Oct-Dec). I went through this when I wanted a Sig 556 Pistol. I heard about it, heard about it, heard about it. Called and asked and got the proverbial "two weeks" answer. Guess what, it was 3 months after getting my first 2 weeks response
. They released only so many in the first string to gauge market demand and how many to make and when..smart and understandable, there. I finally did get one, and yes, I am satisfied with it. I hope that the Sig 516 & 517 rifles will be great, maybe we'll here more about them as time goes by. Just don't get too excited. It's gonna be a while 
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I don't understand why they would have the 516 reviewed for the January edition of American Rifleman if the rifle won't be released until late summer. I'm guessing it is some kind of marketing tact to gauge the response from the community, and have a better estimate of how many to make and stuff. ??? Just a thought, what other reason could there be? The Ruger SR-556 was out before all the gun rags reviewed it, isn't that selling well? Anyway, it makes me question all the info in the gun review. How do we know many of the aspects of the rifle, especially PRICE, won't change before late summer (or later)? For that, I think it is irresponsible of American Rifleman. Hey, I'm not expecting it to be out tomorrow. Within 3-5 months would be acceptable. But I don't know what they are thinking. Like most gun folk, if I start saving now, come June I will be distracted by another product and buy that. SO, when the 516/716 comes out, I won't have the $ to buy.
So, typical industry and Sig BS. "...maybe a little sooner." My foot! We'll be lucky if they are out in any number in late sumer, and they probably won't be out in greater numbers till late 2010 (Oct-Dec). I went through this when I wanted a Sig 556 Pistol. I heard about it, heard about it, heard about it. Called and asked and got the proverbial "two weeks" answer. Guess what, it was 3 months after getting my first 2 weeks response. They released only so many in the first string to gauge market demand and how many to make and when..smart and understandable, there. I finally did get one, and yes, I am satisfied with it. I hope that the Sig 516 & 517 rifles will be great, maybe we'll here more about them as time goes by. Just don't get too excited. It's gonna be a while .
I don't understand why they would have the 516 reviewed for the January edition of American Rifleman if the rifle won't be released until late summer. I'm guessing it is some kind of marketing tact to gauge the response from the community, and have a better estimate of how many to make and stuff. ??? Just a thought, what other reason could there be? The Ruger SR-556 was out before all the gun rags reviewed it, isn't that selling well? Anyway, it makes me question all the info in the gun review. How do we know many of the aspects of the rifle, especially PRICE, won't change before late summer (or later)? For that, I think it is irresponsible of American Rifleman. Hey, I'm not expecting it to be out tomorrow. Within 3-5 months would be acceptable. But I don't know what they are thinking. Like most gun folk, if I start saving now, come June I will be distracted by another product and buy that. SO, when the 516/716 comes out, I won't have the $ to buy.
1/27/2010 1:28:48 PM
Sometimes it seems when a manufacturer is late to the "show" that they try to get as much press time as possible so that people will wait for the product and not buy something else. I for one am looking forward to these rifles coming out. Unfortunately with the way the economy is right now I can't buy one any time soon so hopefully when they are available I will be able
1/28/2010 11:47:34 PM
New product introduction at SHOT doesn't mean truckloads of product are waiting in warehouses to ship. Manufacturers simply don't have the cash to put into inventory - and the Government taxes it heavily. NOT having inventory is preferred as a result.
SHOT is also a trade show - not a gunshow for Joe Bubba Dumas to infiltrate. Business is the order of the day - selling a product. Once orders are in, production lines start up. THEN product is shipped - largely to the wholesalers and big dealers who can order firearms in the hundreds and even thousands.
Everyone in America works at a business, or deals with them. I'm continually amazed when I see or hear people who's paycheck is financed by a business make uninformed or even erroneous statements about other businesses. When production and manufacture come into it, it seems to get even denser.
It takes time to start producing a new item, just as it takes time to mobilize for a war or emergency. My son wanted to know why there weren't 500 doctors who could be flying into Haiti after the earthquake. I asked him 1) Who's in charge of that list 2) How long would it take for you to get there 3) Who's paying for your tickets?
It's been the same whining I heard during Katrina, now it's on the networks about Haiti, and the same whining about the availability of a new toy. At least the first two had a legitimate reason, people's lives are at stake.
Not being able to buy something Right Now is childish. Perhaps if more Americans would study why, we could get better at it instead of complaining about it. Then we would be less of a debtor nation to the very people we buy all our junk from.
You want it now, shop at the Mall. Otherwise, you wait. Sometimes, it turns out you didn't really need it.
SHOT is also a trade show - not a gunshow for Joe Bubba Dumas to infiltrate. Business is the order of the day - selling a product. Once orders are in, production lines start up. THEN product is shipped - largely to the wholesalers and big dealers who can order firearms in the hundreds and even thousands.
Everyone in America works at a business, or deals with them. I'm continually amazed when I see or hear people who's paycheck is financed by a business make uninformed or even erroneous statements about other businesses. When production and manufacture come into it, it seems to get even denser.
It takes time to start producing a new item, just as it takes time to mobilize for a war or emergency. My son wanted to know why there weren't 500 doctors who could be flying into Haiti after the earthquake. I asked him 1) Who's in charge of that list 2) How long would it take for you to get there 3) Who's paying for your tickets?
It's been the same whining I heard during Katrina, now it's on the networks about Haiti, and the same whining about the availability of a new toy. At least the first two had a legitimate reason, people's lives are at stake.
Not being able to buy something Right Now is childish. Perhaps if more Americans would study why, we could get better at it instead of complaining about it. Then we would be less of a debtor nation to the very people we buy all our junk from.
You want it now, shop at the Mall. Otherwise, you wait. Sometimes, it turns out you didn't really need it.
